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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 01:09 PM by Vanitas
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OH, in principle I couldn't agree more!
The problem is... to fully explain how and why the situation(s) I described really do correspond to the intimate reality of the people involved, I
should go into details that I don't feel I have the right to disclose, and, more importantly, because they refer to a set of very specific
circumstances and quite extra-ordinary people (they overflow every standard and norm there is  ), such a post would inevitably shift the attention
away from the main thread. And I don't want that.
Be it as it may, every single post here, starting by yours, of course, are extremely valuable. Thank you!
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 01:17 PM by Vanitas
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I was had a similar phase in my life. <...>
I don't know if it is inertia proper - but I do hope that I emerge out of it ASAP.
Most of all, I hope to be able to "upgrade" my former method to something more comprehensive and at the same time less specific. But to do that... I
would have to stop feeling guilty for being (in appearance, at least) exceptional.
(That's a very long story, going back to day one of my life, that doesn't really belong here; I only mention it to avoid misunderstandings.)
Thank you so very much.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 01:20 PM by Skyfloating
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The thing is though...being an exceptional creator with exceptional imaginative skills is just the thing that can get you out of it ASAP.
One of the funniest things I see in this field of business is how people dont even notice some of the things creativism can be applied to.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 01:48 PM by Illahee
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Thanks for sharing your insights. I believe you are 'there' as far as mastery of the science. It has happened when you question how you may be
cheating yourself out of the human experience.
I think that is sort of the bar. When you understand the process full circle.
It starts to get a little freaky when you work past, present and future. A mind bender at the very least, but that is even a different subject
altogether.
I would suggest to anyone that is serious to get a small notebook and keep track of every aspect of each effort. Its in these notes you will be able
to decode your issues and improve the quality of the work. Make careful notes as to dates and times as well as a full emotional aspect, including all
your thoughts good and bad.
After you are doing it every time, then branch a little and test specific accuracy, as to the result. As your accuracy gets better, the overall skill
will be twice as good.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 01:50 PM by WraothAscendant
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hEh my problem with that is two things.
1) Isn't a notebook big enough.
2) I can't write that damn fast. My thoughts go at least a gazillion times faster than the speed of light.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 02:00 PM by Skyfloating
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oh...writing...I could go on and on and on and on about the merits of writing. writing ones true thoughts. writing ones preferred thoughts. writing
ones desires in the past tense. writing ones beliefs and beliefs about beliefs. writing ones intentions. writing ones gratitudes. writing ones
thoughts in order to slow them down. writing is pure magic.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 02:04 PM by Illahee
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I don't know but I think money is not a very good measure, as it is a false construct. A better measure would be the creation of a successful
business. At first it seems like about the same thing but it is very different.
The best test is to go head to head with something you may perceive to be impossible due to others being involved and no apparent bridge between the
now and there. This is a very good test.
I have heard of some people using multimeters across damp skin to capture the accurate attempt and guide further ones. Its not needed and like a lot
of things is a distraction from the real work.
Everything you need for success is in the bolded type I posted early on.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 02:20 PM by Illahee
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
oh...writing...I could go on and on and on and on about the merits of writing. writing ones true thoughts. writing ones preferred thoughts. writing
ones desires in the past tense. writing ones beliefs and beliefs about beliefs. writing ones intentions. writing ones gratitudes. writing ones
thoughts in order to slow them down. writing is pure magic.
Pay close attention to this. It is real wisdom and a cornerstone in the more advanced work the dvd movies don't cover. Its pure gold. Skyfloating
just handed out free gold nuggets.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 02:31 PM by jboogienoj
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hey not sure if you are who i think you are but if you are could you sign my book? haaaaa..! i've been following the post... not to much to say but
if you could elaborate on this :
One of the funniest things I see in this field of business is how people dont even notice some of the things creativism can be applied to.
.... that would be awesome! what kind of possible mistakes or misdirection have you seen? thanks
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 02:44 PM by Skyfloating
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The point was that most people limit these type of techniques to just a few "big things" like money, love, etc. But actually "the power of
intention" can be applied to all kinds of stuff, including the little details. Every single problem or challenge someone offers up, can be turned
into an intention. Someone says: "Well, I cant apply the law of attraction, because I dont know what I want". This person is obviously overlooking
the fact that he can apply the following intention: "I would like to know what I want" or "I would like to find out what I want more clearly".
Some practitioners (like myself) have made it a habit of stating dozens of intentions every day (mostly in written form).
The best way to state intentions is without expectation (without pressure) that something must "come true" or "manifest".
Expectation-that-something-must-manifest creates a sort of resistance/pressure that slows down the manifestation process. One states intentions
without asking when, where, how, etc.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:29 PM by Illahee
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I would be very interested in seeing your listing of materials. I know you may have an interest as an author to if you feel comfortable in leaving
yours out and just tossing out some fav pics, others may perhaps add to the list?
TIA
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:36 PM by jboogienoj
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true but as a regular human you can't help but 'worry' about if it does not happen. someone once told me that, "that which you truly fear will not
come true". i like that as well. all i'm saying is if i have a big business deal that's suppose to happen in a few months i can't help but be
'nervous' at the thought of if not working out. now your telling me i might slow down the manifestation of the deal being finalized! ahhhh !!
lol...
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:44 PM by Illahee
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Originally posted by jboogienoj
reply to post by Skyfloating
true but as a regular human you can't help but 'worry' about if it does not happen. someone once told me that, "that which you truly fear will not
come true". i like that as well. all i'm saying is if i have a big business deal that's suppose to happen in a few months i can't help but be
'nervous' at the thought of if not working out. now your telling me i might slow down the manifestation of the deal being finalized! ahhhh !!
lol...
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The thought it may not come to pass, although a normal and rational thought, is actualy your signal that you have not formed the vision of the
completed work fully and completly. Focus on the completed transaction as a ''movie in your mind with you as only a spectator' you approach and go
by and see it completed fully and perfected in every way, smiling and feeling the goodness of your creation as you pass by.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 03:58 PM by Skyfloating
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Book Recommendations
Disclaimer: All of this is subjective opinion only.
The most popular books on the subject are not necessarily the best. Lynn McTaggarts "The Field" and "The Intention Experiment", while interesting
for skeptics, dont do much to further one´s skills because she spends entire books trying to soothe her own doubts by trying to find scientific
verification of every detail.
Classical Literature such as "Think and Grow Rich" or the Murphy books are somewhat outdated and not holistic/integral enough to really deeply drive
the message home.
Then there are loads and loads of what I call copycat-books. These are books where the author has merely copied what others have already written. The
books are accordingly shallow and non-authentic. Shakti Gawain, Barbel Mohr (and sorry to say, even Wayne Dyer) come to mind.
Then there are the old occult books which are overloaded with unneccesary ritual and belief-system.
Then there are the books which act as an introduction to various new-age-cults and overpriced workshops.
Then there´s the books published by scam-artists and marketing-hounds. They are written in a sensationalist tone of voice, with the intent to sell
rather than educate.
So, whats left after discarding all of that? These are some topic-related booktitles that were helpful to me and to the people I recommended them to
(google or amazon them yourself):
The Astonishing Power of Emotions
Ask and it is given
Bashar: Blueprint for a Change
Power vs. Force
Transcending the levels of Consciousness
Parallel Universes of Self
The Holographic Universe
Initiation into Hermetics
Journey of Souls
Destiny of Souls
The Nature of Personal Reality
Urban Shaman
Reality Shifts (this might only be available as an e-book, not sure).
That should be enough to master the art without having to spend too much or anything at all for workshops. No necessity of sending me U2Us asking for
my books either, as I choose to use ATS anynomously.
EDIT: Of course, recognizing the fallacies as described in the opening post, does not come from these books either, but only from personal experience
and serious contemplation.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 04:01 PM by Skyfloating
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well...nervousness...or (may I rephrase) excitement, is part of the human package, isnt it? I´d find it kind of strange if you were bored by those
prospects
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 05:13 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by jboogienoj
true but as a regular human you can't help but 'worry' about if it does not happen. someone once told me that, "that which you truly fear will not
come true". i like that as well. all i'm saying is if i have a big business deal that's suppose to happen in a few months i can't help but be
'nervous' at the thought of if not working out. now your telling me i might slow down the manifestation of the deal being finalized! ahhhh !!
lol...
one add-on: The mere act of calling "nervousness" "excitement" may restructure the energy to your benefit. Give it a try.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 05:40 PM by Illahee
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Thanks for the reference opinions. Some very good material there. I have mostly the older occult references. Although a select few have a direct focus
on the subject the prices of that material has shot up in the last few years, and what I own now is well out of my budget, making it hard to recommend
titles. Mastership: The Divine law can still be had for under $50 , but there are some better ones for much more.
I think I did the opposite in that most folks looked to reality and it sparked a search for illumination. I searched first after illumination and then
found reality. My veiws are very far off from the norm for that reason.
Great reference list and I recommend Bardon's works. While not all great material he had the chance to record a very large volume that was available
and many of the things he covers would be lost without the effort.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 06:09 PM by Skyfloating
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Originally posted by Illahee
I think I did the opposite in that most folks looked to reality and it sparked a search for illumination. I searched first after illumination and then
found reality. My veiws are very far off from the norm for that reason.
I suspect I did something similar. Please elaborate.
Great reference list and I recommend Bardon's works. While not all great material he had the chance to record a very large volume that was available
and many of the things he covers would be lost without the effort.
The Bardon book I added for nostalgia reasons. It was actually the very first book I read on the subject when I was 12 years old. Pretty heavy reading
for a child. But being the naive, all-believing child I was, the book sparked amazing success for me back then. It basically taught how to focus long
and intensely and how to imagine deeply. Its not all good material of course, but lets hope the reader has a discerning mind.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 06:37 PM by Simple
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I have done some reading about the law of attracttion. I often find most of this is tied to a greater being or conciousness god or spiritualness. I
now ask Skyfloater or anyone else for that matter how does all this tie into the E.T. phenomenon. I am specifically referring to their spiritual side.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 09:54 PM by LordBucket
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It may be worth noting that "the secret" works, even if it doesn't work.
Think about it.
If you are able to "imagine" a reality to the extent that you are truly "experiencing" it...seeing what you would see, feeling the way you would
feel "as if it were real" then how is that any different from it actually "being" "real?"
It isn't.
As humans we're not in a position to observe an objective reality to begin with. We're only perceiving experience. If you are able to manufacture
experience, you are creating reality simply because that's what reality is: manufactured, perceived experience.
You are using "the secret" every moment of your life. Even now as you perceive yourself as reading these words.
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