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Double Bull's-Eye For Einstein - Theory of Relativity is Correct

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posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 07:40 AM

Double Bull's-Eye For Einstein - Theory of Relativity is Correct

Using the Hubble Space Telescope, astronomers say they have spotted their first double Einstein ring – a bizarre optical phenomenon that shows how massive objects like galaxies can bend light rays, furnishing evidence for Einstein’s general theory of relativity.
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posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 07:40 AM

The fact that there’s a double ring around this gravitational-lens galaxy means that two other galaxies are aligned precisely behind it. And the odds of that happening are estimated at 1-in-10000. That's a big reason why Tommaso Treu of the University of California at Santa Barbara felt as if he and his colleagues "hit the jackpot" when they saw the double ring's signature in data from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey.

Single Einstein rings are rare enough: On a telescope image, such a ring looks like a faint circlet of light surrounding a massive galaxy. The circle is actually the light from a galaxy much, much farther away, which has been bent around the closer galaxy to provide a distorted image.

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I guess anyone claiming Einstein's GToR is wrong is just crazy (I believe Stitchin may have made that claim).
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posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 08:54 AM

Originally posted by harddrive21
I guess anyone claiming Einstein's GToR is wrong is just crazy (I believe Stitchin may have made that claim).

Or trying to be trendy because they think the 'alternative view' is 'cool'. There are people like that :shk:

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 12:40 PM
So...scientists finally see a double ring in space made from bending light and they can't seem to fast enough link it with Einstein.

hell they even named the phenomenon after him!....

well there are other ways to bend light than with gravity...witch by the way cannot be found as it is ooooh such a weak force....they say

Question - can a magnet bend light

Ok, that's not quite true. A magnetic field contains energy,
and energy, through its equivalence to mass, has a gravitational
field, which can bend light. But the effect on light of any
magnetic field we'll ever see would be so small it's utterly

So now we are making gravity with magnetic fields, and bending light with it, but still looking for gravity waves/field/force lines? and "utterly negligible. is nothing but a postulate.

Light beams can get curved if they pass through areas where space-time is warped by powerful gravitational fields, such as one created by a black hole—a phenomenon known as gravitational lensing. But the new technique scientists have developed to manipulate light does not involve warping space-time.

The scientists found they could make a nearly half-inch-wide laser beam passing through their screen appear to curve by 1 millimeter over a 14-inch (35-centimeter) stretch.

Woops...light bends again..actually quite a nice bend...and without space-time being warped....

-The bending of light as it passes from one medium to another
-Deflection from a straight path undergone by a light ray or energy wave in passing obliquely from one medium (as air) into another (as glass) in which its velocity is different.

ohh yes we also have refraction, so i wonder what will happen to light traveling from one medium (empty space) into another (electromagnetic field from galaxy witch noone knows the medium of)...ohh yes it bends alright..

there is also the possibility of The optical "Magnetic" Lenses of magnetic fields witch is illustrated here and explained by Walter Russell ?

the reciprocalsystem theory also offers a different view on spacetime and curvature.

Plasma cosmology offers a view on gravitational lensing aswell... here is some to start with.

You can call it gravity and support Einstein although they havent found any gravity waves/field/force lines yet.

But don't think that Einsteins theory is the only explanation for bending of light pls. It is still open for debate so to speak.

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 12:47 PM
so who was more productive and more of an asset to humanity? Tesla or Einstein? If you think Tesla and Tesla thought Einstein's theory was B.S., then there you go...

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 12:53 PM
just found a little more....

It is much more likely that the propagation of electromagnetic waves is, by their very nature, only affected by electromagnetic forces. In this case an inhomogeneous plasma halo around the objects could provide the necessary dielectric conditions to explain the observed Lensing effect

This i totally agree with

and more...

The theory of gravitational lensing makes sense of images of distant quasars around nearby galaxies...until curious minds begin to doubt it.

but it just seems so simple...

well it is not...

We show that the large magnification of images around caustics leads to an amplification bias, which can make them dominate the flux in some energy ranges. We argue that clustering in the arrival directions of UHECRs of comparable energy may be due to magnetic lensing around caustics.

so there are still other explanations to this phenomenon that aposes Einstein.

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 01:50 PM
reply to post by raze78

We live in Tesla's world. Radio, ac motors, electrical current, scalar applications...much of it we're only now beginning to comprehend.

Einstein was a magnificent theorist but Tesla was a brilliant inventor. Theory vs application. Neither was an intellectual slouch, both were geniuses. Throw in Maxwell too. An amazing era in science, the turn of the 20th century.

That said, Tesla will regain his proper place, which is along side Einstein, not below.

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 03:28 PM
reply to post by Bluess

May I say that those were two very informative posts. First question is that the search for Gravity waves just began correct? NASA sent up the Gravity Probe B and the results are due in early 2007 (the 2 year data collection ended last summer).
So Gravity is a byproduct of a electromagnetism in the EU? If so, how does the moon have some gravity? Is it "stolen" from Earth and the sun? It doesn't have a rotating core of iron? Am I barking up the wrong tree?
I know light waves/photons can be moved via other external forces, but the EU model should either be proved or disproved based on Gravity Probe B then...correct?

posted on Jan, 12 2008 @ 03:30 PM
reply to post by raze78

As stated above - Tesla was brilliant and should be EQUAL or AHEAD of Einstein. They just worked on two different levels - One as a theorist, one as a inventor. Tesla's moment in the spotlight will happen soon.

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