McGotti:
First off:
"When I said that your all wrong...I mainly am refeering to peoples" Peoples?
Excuse me McGotti, you forgot to mention that you SPECIFICALLY called me out by this:
"even seekerof... " (bolded for emphasis). Your
purpose McGotti, for which I have seen no explanation unless you consider your last post as the explanation, which IMHO, does
not explain why
you named me SPECIFICALLY. You comment:
"....and people like you helped them propel the uninformed into a blood thirsty rampage into which they stopped caring about dead humans
simply because they are iraqis and not "white people"....I have never seen the united states actually take over a country and occupy it." (bold
for emphasis)
Here's what I find ironic about this McGotti....
you post an article that gives the "waffled" commentary of a Faux news anchorman, and then
call
ME out by proclaiming that
I need to apologize based on this anchorman's assertions that Bush was wrong on Iraq not having WMD and
thus "propelling" this nation into war. You then post this melodramatic "if anyone had a brain" hogwash
and then spout further inaccurate
falsehoods of:
"people like you" (emphasis added)........like what the hell McGotti? Huh?
This use of
"you" implies
exactlywhat? That becuase of
MY opinions, beliefs, and stances, I am partly or at fault for the
"propelling the uninformed into a blood thirsty rampage into which they stopped caring about dead humans simply because they are iraqis and not
'white people'".........? All this because I was fervent in vocalizing my opinions and beliefs? Since when did I carry such godly
"influences" McGotti?
LOL, then to add insult to injury, you play with hidden racial connotations of
"white people". Good grief, your implying what with this
now?!
And then follow with this:
"I have never seen the united states actually take over a country and occupy it...."
Read a history book lately? Japan and Germany come to mind, off hand.
Then this:
"It was simply a easy target."
Really, interesting. You in the military or a military anaylist or working for a strategic institute or think tank? Obviously a subjective assessment.
Ok...
This:
"Why didnt we take over N. vietnam during the veitnam "conflict".
Duh?! Read some political, historical books on the Vietnam War/Conflict and the many a varied answers will be provided. Let me simply say, that it
wasn't because the US couldn't do it militarily!
And finally:
"The bottom line is that it was an unjust war and you people helped by helping them turn the united states into an evil empire..slaughtering and
stealing from everybody in the world..including its own citizens.I for one am ashamed because of our actions in iraq.
If this was a court case trying to convict iraq of possesion of WMD's,the prosecuter would have to throw out the case because there is no hard
evidence..But justice that we americans come to expect..does not apply to the rest of the world."
McGotti? Many...very many good ATS threads on what you are addressing above. In such, you have not answered my questions that you so eloquently
claim:
"What questions would you like me to responed too???"
Try these, since they DO pertain to your topic/subject matter:
"....since you named me specifically, ummm, Mr. McGotti....allow me to ask a few questions of you that I hope you will get around to answering in
the foreseeable future:
Just "who" or "what" makes Mr. Pat O'Reilly an expert on the subject of Iraq's WMD's and their subsequent full disclosure and discovery? May I
remind you that even Mr. Kay mentioned that though NO 'real' WMD had or have been found in Iraq, that he believes that there are many questions left
to be answered; that there may be smaller, not larger quantities --- as previously thought, still in Iraq or had been moved out of Iraq. In such, the
full disclosure of Iraqi WMD is somewhat still up in the air, per se'? On the issue of "immenent threat" and Bush "lying" or "falsely" taking
the US to war with Iraq, my opinions can be found on multiple threads and do not need to be re-hashed on this one.
Thirdly,since when did the voice of a liberal (though many claim conservative), populist, "waffling", Al Franken spooked, news media anchorman
become the last authoritive word on the Iraqi WMD issue, Bush's supposed "immenent threat" usage, and Bush and the administration "lying"?
Despite yours, and others, vocal claims of "treason", "lying", "falsehoods and pretexts", I remind you that within the US remains a judical
system for making such determinations either a reality or a defunct falsehood.
I find it quite ironic that I was the only one you named. Why? Because I have been one of the most staunch, out-spoken ATS members on this issue of
Iraq having WMD's? Was your intent to discredit me due to the singled out words of dear Mr. O'Reilly?"
Those questions.........
regards
seekerof
[Edited on 12-2-2004 by Seekerof]
...i actually did think that we would find something....i
can't believe that NOTHING AS BEEN FOUND!! the administration was SOOOOOOO positive that WMD would be found. the govt is puling the wool over our
eyes and they are getting away with it.....all you have to do is keep putting the blame on others and if that doesn't work, just don't answer...then
the american public will forget. what a shame that our society has become soooooo apathetic to the governing of their goverment. 
