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Topic started on 9-1-2008 @ 05:55 PM by jca2005

Ron Pauls Secret Plan?


www.paulu nteer.com
Without having to spend a dime, Ron Paul, in a clever way, could be said to have used these two events in IA and NH to fish out all manner of valuable demographic information.
1) You’re sitting on the largest Republican war chest
2) All your opponent’s fundraising is on life support, or they blew all their money in the first two or three primaries.
3) Each of the other candidates has a huge huge negative that will show up and turn off republican voters
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 10:38 PM by The Axeman
Originally posted by xmotex
What angered me most was his apparent close association with Gary North, a man who basically wants to turn the US into a Christian version of Iran's theocracy.


But think about it: He's running on a strict constitutionalist platform; there's no way he would ever try to meddle with separation of Church and State.

He certainly seems to have more integrity than that, and that's a big reason I'll vote for him. He's a good man, and we've had too few of those in office lately.

I think this "secret plan" is going to turn some heads. I know there are enough people in this country that are "fed" up.

Me and my family will continue to work hard for Dr. Paul. It's the minutemen on the ground that are going to make the difference.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:55 AM by QuasiShaman
There is a great article here from Gambling 911 about RP and his campaign and why he lost in NH. This is a interesting read:
Why Ron Paul Lost New Hampshire?

Ronald Holland Explains How the Ron Paul Campaign can win in the future.


Only 8,000 votes would have made the NH Primary a success with a third place finish but the Ron Paul Campaign didn’t make it. First, we can’t blame it on Fox News, if anything their debate exclusion helped the campaign on a national basis. The harassing of Hannity the Neocon on TV was a major PR mistake regardless of how good it felt at the time. The enemies of freedom will smear the campaign as extreme and scary whenever they can, hence we should counter this false perception instead of playing into their hands.

Ron Paul’s 5th placing showing in the GOP New Hampshire Primary was disappointing but the campaign should be judged in the larger context of the entire 2008 election cycle. Remember, it began as an educational endeavor to spread the message of how the benefits of a return to limited government, the Constitution and personal and economic freedom can benefit our nation and citizens.

The campaign has achieved education and fund raising success as who would have thought a year ago that a presidential campaign getting near 10% of the GOP vote would have rallies where the chant was “stop the FED” or bring sound money, a balanced foreign policy and the Constitution into the general Republican debate.

Frankly the educational and fundraising success has not been translated into similar success at the ballot box for a number of reasons but the primary reason is brand packaging. We are letting the competition define us and our vision for America.

This Is A Restoration Movement Not A Revolution - First, although the Ron Paul campaign message is identical to our Founding Fathers goals and beliefs for our early Republic, the campaign marketing brand has been called “The Ron Paul Revolution”. It doesn’t matter if you spell “love” with the word Revolution, this word scares average Americans. We are restoring the original vision of our Founding Fathers not revolting against our country.

Remember, most voters do not read von Mises, have no historical or philosophical reference or understanding of the basic foundations of liberty, economics, sound money, American history, the Federal Reserve, our republic or the Constitution. The media, our public schools and political institutions never cover any of this so why would you think one brief campaign could turn the tide against 100 years of cover-up, indoctrination and misinformation.

The Foreign Policy of George Washington - Ron Paul advocates a return to the original foreign policy of George Washington and our founding fathers. The Neocon’s call it “isolationism” and we call it “non-interventionism” but the average voter could care less about the definition. Who would oppose the foreign policy of Washington, Jefferson or Franklin?

Oppose the Federal Reserve Because of the Housing & Stock Market Crisis - 99% of the voters don’t know or want to know anything about the Federal Reserve. They hear about it in the news and this “government institution” as far as they understand is designed to “protect us and our economy”. Yes it is a tool of the financial and Wall Street elites to maximize their profits at the average persons expense but you can’t explain the Federal Reserve in a political campaign. Their easy money policies designed to benefit the banks and Wall Street have created the recession we are now entering. This is enough information.

Sound Money Means Lower Priced Imported Goods, Service, Cars & Gas Prices – This is the message not competing or gold backed currencies. Most people are too busy trying to work, survive and raise families to concern themselves with the currency.

The Average Voter Doesn’t Care About History - I love history but the voters do not care about the past as this is a consumer driven “I want it now, lifestyle economy”. Few care about the War Between the States, the fall of the Soviet Union, the Great Depression or our history in the Middle East. There is plenty of time for those interested to thoroughly research why our nation has turned into a Neocon empire abroad and a centralized power hungry government at home but this should not be part of the rhetoric of the campaign..

The Campaign Should Act At Once! - The campaign should keep the message simple, educate supporters on the importance of public relations and explain our vision for America in easy, understandable terms. There will be plenty of time for the scary stuff when the economy goes into the tank or we get into another war. We are dealing with entrenched special interests who will do anything to maintain control of the two-party monopoly but Niccolo Machiavelli was right. "The wise man does at once what the fool does finally".


Ron Holland has long been a freedom advocate while working in the marketing and financial services industry. He is the author of The Protest Fox Exclusion webpage at www.ronaldholland.com... and “Heidi Remembers Ron Paul’s Election” at www.ronaldholland.com... He can be reached at skironholland@yahoo.com

Ron Paul supporters, be sure to vote in the new Free Market Hall of Fame “Issues, Programs & Politics Survey“ at www.freedomfest.com... Make sure you complete question #4 (If Ron Paul is not on the GOP ticket as President or Vice President, will you vote Republican, vote Democrat, consider a third party or stay at home in the general election.) Ron Paul supporters need to let both parties know they will not be taken for granted in the 2008 elections.



reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:56 AM by QuasiShaman
Originally posted by xmotex
I was a Ron Paul supporter until very recently.

I think the recent revelations in National Review about his ties to extremist groups are going to cost him a lot of support: they certainly cost him mine.

What angered me most was his apparent close association with Gary North, a man who basically wants to turn the US into a Christian version of Iran's theocracy.



I haven't heard about this Gary North guy, but those letters have been debunked for about 10 years now.



reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 04:41 PM by The Walking Fox
reply to post by QuasiShaman


Have they now? All I've heard of "debunking" is Ron Paul saying "I didn't" which to me, is a lot like Bill Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". The denial of the person accused isn't proof enough for me, I'm afraid.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 06:29 PM by ElectRon41
reply to post by The Walking Fox


I would ask you to provide proof that the newsletters WERE written by Paul. Besides the fact that they're printed on paper titled "Ron Paul Political Report" (or something like that) you ain't got nuthin'! It's not his writing style AND no one can point to anything in his entire career or anything he's ever personally said that is even remotely racist.

He said on Situation Room today that these were published during a time when he was no longer in Congress and had resumed his medical practice. Writers of the newsletters were "in and out" and he had no idea who they were or how to even go about finding that out.

Anybody who has even done a small amount of research into him can tell these are not his ideas and it's not written in his style, which is very distictive. Your accusations have no merit.
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