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Something may be about to happen in US soil

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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:27 AM
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great... I'm flying to NYC today... I don't think they would attack the same city twice... do you?




posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:29 AM
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yeah this is true...
I'm white, but I have an Israeli name...
And EVERY time I have flown out of my local airport, which is about 3-4 times a year, I have been randomly selected for inspection... they go through my luggage and everything...
I just laugh each time.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 02:44 AM
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One more thing I am going to throw out here just for completeness. Its getting harder to tell military from law enforcement based on their uniforms in the US. I have a lot of friends with various law enforcement agencies, and years back I was an airline supervisor with customs clearance to work international flights. It used to be that the police never used BDU style clothing as it was too military in appearance, but this started to change in the late 90’s. Most officers I know, now have not only the standard uniform and a utility uniform (normally some type of jumpsuit), but also a set of BDU style tactical clothing. Customs, even back when I worked the ramp, used to have a work set that consisted of BDU style pants, and a British SAS style sweater (the kind with the padded shoulders), a normal police looking uniform, and a suit style uniform. These uniforms were mainly dark royal blue colors, which might appear to be black. Even private security companies now can be quite official looking.

The only way to accurately tell who some of these guys work for now is to check on their badges.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 03:49 AM
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I work in Gatwick Airport and you always see Armed Police and Dogs patroling. It's just a precaution i think. I havent noticed a increase recentley but then again i dont work in the international arrivals lounge. There not SAS by the way, just normal Armed police ( we have specialist police units with Different uniforms and guns! as the average policeman cant carry a gun.

Also there is a lot of confusion about carry on luggage at the moment, Since last year when they supposidly foiled a plot to blow up international flights over the Atlantic.

Some airlines limit you to one bag while others are now allowing for two bags.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:12 AM
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thats ok... no not basque... I am actually from the Canary islands... but as to do with basques.. they perpetrate national terrorism... related to politics... not agains other countries.. im sure they couldnt give a bigger F about england or the US in this case...

my brother was never asked his nationality... they were stopping every single young traveller regardless of nationality, or color.. so it is very weird... as well to remind this only happened in Gatwick (UK, international terminal where US inbound flights were located) and in the Atlanta International Airport...



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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maybe is related to the fact that you are spanish naturalized somewhere else.... it is based on the relations with those countries.. the fact that spies come and go... and things like that.... something caused your passport to beep in the system for some reason... who knows what... maybe fact maybe a possible threat they just want to check... at times security around here becomes quite strong... specially in Barcelona and Madrid.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:23 AM
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their IDs you mean.. since they did not carry any badges. My brother checked on that. We are quite big fans of the whole special forces military sector.. and if I am he is 5 times more... knowing from every single fighter, tank and submarine there is in this planet.. he knows everything about guns and military forces... trust me the first thing he did was eye scan every single guard to the tooth in great detail. He said said no badges at all... nothing... lots of weapons and a gas mask.... very close to the SAS assault gear for their CT forces.... he explaimed that if you saw them and did not know about the different forces... you would think that something really bad was going on... or that the brit are watching too many movies...



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:27 AM
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reply to post by Sandals24
 


Right... well I fly about three times a year internationally and not just to the US... I know every single airlines policy in regards to carry ons and what not... and im telling you this is absurd. Every time I fly I carry my backpack and my laptop as well... as any other student... and have never had a problem before... apart from having to get my laptop out of my bag to scan them separately which im used to... but the fact that they tell you they are taking it away.... a laptop bag??? nah there is explanation for that one Im afraid...

If those werent SAS then im user they are watching too many action movies... cuz having those kind of guards walking everywhere and stopping everyone... is a bit science fiction... apparently only related to american airlines... delta united and american...

[edit on 10-1-2008 by plaetorian]



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by plaetorian
Everything started once in UK. At the international terminal (mostly American airlines), security has gone mad. As he descibres, was stopped and questions by apparently british special forces like SAS about 3 times before even reaching the check-in counter. Apparently the entire terminal is completely packed with special forces lookign alike those in the movie hitman (for those that have seen it). Black suited security forces, armed to the tooth, and carrying all kind of weapons and gas masks!!

There are not military personnel based at airports in the UK, even in Northern Ireland. British Special Forces do not parade around airports looking like extras from a badly written Hollywood movie…
What he would have seen are UK police. Yes some UK police carry weapons. The ones charged with security at airport do, MP-5’s are the standard long arm normally partnered by a Browning as a side arm. They do not carry a mix of weapons, that is and has never been done by British security forces (Civil and Military). It’s a logistically unsound operational procedure.


Originally posted by plaetorianHe also went thru 5 security check points with x-rays machines on his way to the gate, completely unsual. In the first control, one of the guards told him ONLY ONE BAG (he was carrying a backpack and a laptop handbag), so my brother tried to explain to the guard that the other bah was for the laptop.... which is common sense since he saw it himself, yet he told my brother to shut up, and either take the laptop or give it away with the handbag. Absurd. by the way a xmas present... .

Or this could be normal procedure for travelling from the UK due to recent terrorist activity… Only one carry on per passenger… If he travels so often he should have already known this as it has been in place for 12 months in the UK!!!


Originally posted by plaetorianSomething is going on and about to happen... for those of us that constantly travel internationally know that this is completely out of place and absurb, never seen before. But in any case... post what you think please thanks.

A simple trawl of the internet will tell you about the security situation in the countries you are travelling via…

Here are a couple to explain the security in the UK…
Latest convicted terrorist
news.bbc.co.uk...
Single cabin bag rules to change
news.bbc.co.uk...
Department of transport advice
www.dft.gov.uk...

As to the American security, they are a target, same as us here in the UK… and the same as you are in Spain...

Better to piss off an aircraft load of passenger, than have them killed because you don’t want to upset the sensibilities of a few people…

Regards P


[edit on 10-1-2008 by pueblos]



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:38 AM
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Interesting stuff... tho I flew thru england within the last 12 months twice in an out... using delta and british airways.... and as I said before.. I have not had a problem with two carry ons every.. In fact they told me every time " Only a carry on, plus a laptop handbag..... not two carry ons..." so... basically they arent counting the laptop bag as a carry on as they explained... the fact that this only happened in the terminal related to the US has soemthing interesting to it im sure... since on the inbounds to UK security wasnt at all close to this case.... and the fact that it is also happening on the counter airports in the US that take as inbounds those flights from the UK... tells me indeed they is a share of information between both countries as boths have gotten ready at the same time for the same issue.... nevertheless an interesting situation I hope not resulting in bad outcomes...



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:41 AM
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reply to post by plaetorian
 


You and me both buddy…

Stay Safe

Regards P



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:50 AM
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I flew into Gatwick a few days ago, was only a domestic flight but I can't say I saw any armed police or anything.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 07:23 AM
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reply to post by plaetorian
 


You know every international airline policy?? What are you some kind of Plane spotter?

If you know every single airlines policy how come you dont know this?

www.uk-airport-news.info...

Up unitl Monday Policy for all International Flights leaving/arriving in UK to have 0ne single item of carry on. Thats fact..

are these the people you saw??

cos thats are boys in blue!!



[edit on 10-1-2008 by Sandals24]



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Sandals24


are these the people you saw??

cos thats are boys in blue!!



[edit on 10-1-2008 by Sandals24]

It's his brother that it happened to.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 07:53 AM
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Good point... im not gonna explain things over and over again. As for the color I dont know what you understand by black, specOp suits.. and gas masks.... those in your image look like typical police offices .... having seen the American ones at American airports... those you showed look like traffic police with paintball guns... so stop being sarcastic.

As for the policy I already talked about it many times. Im not plane spotter, it happens that I have travelled the world non stop since I am 14 thats pretty much all you have to know. And yes, my brother, who is the one that suffered this incident, complained about the fact that there were lots of ppl carry more that one carry on... and he had to throw his brand-new-never-used laptop bag. But the carry on policy is not the point of this, the point is the amount of security that suddenly takes place... and why the hell there are officers dressed up as counter terrorism units with gas masks... stopping every young traveller for questioning and not the older crowd... read the stuff before playing smart.

[edit on 10-1-2008 by plaetorian]



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:47 AM
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mate, no offence intended..

Paintball guns, that made me chuckle.. give us (Brits) a break though.... we dont get to play with guns much!

Anyways I kind of think i would've have seen these SAS men in the Airport and the UK media loves scaring us so i would've thought it would've been in the press.

not smart, I just think people scaremonger to much....






posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:53 AM
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im not saying they are SAS since they had no badge nor identification... but as described.. definitely not police... maybe a counter terrorism unit from the police.. could be im sure... what would the SAS be doing at the airport patrolling... the SAS name was used so that the others could have an idea of what they looked like... that all...



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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I was using the term SAS in the same way as you.. Anyway forget it man this seems like a pointless argument.

If there were heavily armed Police, SAS, pixies?! at least it shows we're trying to prevent stuff happening,

I wouldnt worry about it.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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they put me thru the "mill" at our airports as well----and i am still registered as a federal government/military personel .for whatever reason my face and name ring alarm bells---i have no idea what they see in their computers but i suspect someone with a similar name/face is bad news.

it gets tiresome when you almost miss your interconnecting flights as they hold me back as the last person from every previous flight so far in my flying career. all this security at the airports yet the north border and south of the usa you can walk/drive across in many different locations with ease.

i dont doubt the same could be done with a large fishing boat on either one of our coasts as long as you had the right words to use when if a patrol aircraft flew over and asked for a radio identification of your vessel.

if the drug lords can get away with sneaking their drugs into the usa there's no reason why someone couldnt sneak suitcase size nukes in as well.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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Hey everyone.

I live in Atlanta and was just at Hartsfield the other day. No special forces, military, secret police, harsh questioning interrogation specialists anywhere.

Just the usual uniformed guards asking to see my ticket, asking me to stretch my arms outward as they scan by body with a metal detector -- the usual.

I'm not sure what our Spanish friend saw, but there's no evidence of it now.




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