This is election is possible another fruad, because I live in PA and everywhere and everyone I talk to is for Ron Paul. If you don't support a man that will help the country, than your are not well educated, so I am think to myself are people in America that DUMB? My answer is yes and no, because of the fruad thing, but if thats not the case these people should get their voting rights taken away, because I am not going to stand for another guy out to help the corporate world and tax the middle class, high gas prices, taxes, homeland security, and their bullcrap speeches on fear!

Americans might be getting tricked over and over again!

So...basically this thread is about a gut feeling of voter fraud and not anything substantial?
*sigh*

Originally posted by Beefcake
Considering everyone is giving their opinion on what happened in Hew Hampshire and why McCain won and all that then i will give mine.

I think Ron Paul came in 3rd maybe 2nd and they stole it from him through voter fraud. I think there are legs to this and i guess we will just have to wait and see. As a footnote Obama was probably cheated too.

As far as the Republican side, what are you basing your thoughts on? No poll ever showed strong support for Ron Paul in NH. He's never came close to sniffing 2nd or 3rd. I'm baffled at people being surprised he's finishing where he is. Are people really taking those myspace or whatever polls seriously? Strong internet campaigns rarely turn out to be a reflection of real life (not yet anyway, I'm sure in the near future this will change).
The only voter fraud is probably in favor of RP, where he got MORE votes than he actually did

(note: I actually like RP, but...I like being realistic more )

On the Democrat side, I don't think Obama was cheated. We see this every election. The media usually hypes up (and it seems, inflates the poll numbers of) whoever won Iowa. Now we'll see Hillary's numbers magically rise.

For both sides, even after Super Tuesday I think they'll still be battling for a clear front runner. Should be interesting to say the least.

This new information if true adds even more fuel to my fire.

All night the media was playing the 'four name' graphic game. Paul at times had the same delegate percentage shown as Giuliani in the totals (bottom right) corner but the bastards couldn’t find the screen space to add the (4) letters in his last name to his rightful 9% slice of the pie.

The corporatocracy decides what a ‘Viable’ candidate is obviously.




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Thank you. It's certainly interesting. I find I'm more and more disgusted with Mainstream media the longer this election goes on.

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Would it be an idea to speak to others in New Hampshire what they voted and in wich presinct.

If Asked, -I would make a webpage where people could write their initials, address and presinct.

if more than one presinct have incorrect numbers, it would maybe hit a news paper in new hampshire and show if ron poul have 4000 or 40000 votes.
I think it looks spooky, im a programmer and as such know about websites, databases etc. a fault can only appear like this if its manually input, but manually input would suprise me, as it is errorprone. rather a central database would be used to keep the information and this would be accessed by cnn and other news agencies.

Also i watched the vote from the start, at CNN, what pussled me was that the increase in votes for clinton and obama was equal, even taking on hillary a few votes a presinct, but sometimes 200votes were added to clinton while obama got 0. this seems strange as a lead would be noticed as a lead on average not as "injected" votes.
everybody voting for ron poul should mail a postcard to their local RP08 representive...

it would be easy to design a system that put a small ball with a color in a plastic tube for every vote and thus eliminating fraud by visual confirmation.. people should be able to watch this happening when pressing the vote button.
making these machines safe and reliable, instantly connected and open to the public, even open source, would not be a hard task. after all its only 12 variables which has to be added up, and a database with the detailed information.. -its NOT hard to make!
i really think an internet/postcard system which could be compared to the real results would prevent fraud, but it would require people to join with personal data. if numbers were bigger in the voluntary system than in the presinct it would be reported.
anyway a decent counting system should involve multiple counting methods, even mechanical, which should all add up to the same number.

regards to you all from denmark

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Originally posted by EZapata
This is one small example but this problem is apparently pandemic. I wasn't expecting him to come in 1st, maybe 3rd or 4th...but behind Ghouliani...really?

1. Why would you think that?
2. Nationally, RP doesn't nearly have the support Gulliani does, what made you so sure, NH would be so different?

Ron Paul has broken fund raising records...TWICE! His average donation has been less than $100. The numbers just don't add up.

What numbers?
What percentage of those donations came from NH?

I have a question:
Are those results from the media (preliminary) or ofiicial (final)

I'm listening The Alex Jones Show and (Red Alert) there seems to be proved evidence of counting misuse.

Let see how RP campain reacts to these unfolding event...

hum,so some odd things are goin on with both primaries not surprising the PTB are gonna do whatever they can to keep thier chosen ones in power.

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