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Originally posted by lazy1981
But as far as the Palestinians go, They have been at the mercy of a foreign oppressor since, what 47'? Now, I in no way justify the bombings so lets get that straight.
Originally posted by lazy1981
But, Israel can't realy say much of anything there either, they did the same to the British. That's actualy how they got them to leave. They simply wore away the the British will to stay in Palestine.
Originally posted by lazy1981
I was once told by a freind in High School (which was Palestinian) that when the Israelies find out who the bombers are they order an air strike on the home where his relatives are. Wife, child, mother it doesn't matter to them who gets killed and he broke into tears while telling the tale.
Originally posted by lazy1981
The Jews in Israel are not the rightful inhabitants of the land. Just look at them, the are white.
Originally posted by lazy1981
The world has never put them in their place for these sorts of agressive actions and now they have grown accustomed to this and pay little attention to the minuscule rebukes that are passed along to them via media.
Originally posted by lazy1981
But, I would like the readers of this thread to do one little bit of research it's not much at all and you can do it on the internet. Look up theses passages (Numbers 31:1-41, 34:1-12, and 33:50-52 also Joshua 6:21) this will only take a few minuets to read if you are not familiar and will give you a world of insight as to what I am about to say
Originally posted by lazy1981
I leave you with this insightful quote,
"Every time we do something, you tell me America will do this and America will do that... I want to tell yousomething very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Ariel Sharon: Israeli Prime Minister
October 3rd 2001
Originally posted by seridium
Glad I don't live in the USA you guys are all screwed by your government.
Hitler's bellicosity was driven by fear. Fear of things to come. Fear of many of the problems we face today. He saw that the world was becoming a very crowded place. After the Great War, the German people were pushed to the back of all lines. It is not surprising that the once proud but lowly Corporal would become filled with hate at the degradation of the German people. And fear. Fear that the harshness of the post WWI era was a permanent plight for the German people. Fear that they would always be the last to partake of the world's resources. Fear that they would be the first to be denied those resources when they became scarce. Fear that his people would be driven into extinction when the world's resources were expended. This is why he acted against the Jews. I don't think it was a hatred of the Jews in particular that drove him. It was a hatred of all non-Aryans. He believed that there was simply no room left in the world for anyone but the Aryans. Kill or be killed I suppose you could summarize the plot. It is quite logical actually. Not the ravings of a lunatic. Hitler was no idiot. I don't agree with exterminating humans, because I think there are other methods for dealing with the burdens of overpopulation, but I am not driven by fear either. Hitler was driven by fear. Fears that he shared with his people. Fear that he used as a weapon.
There were indeed conspirators outside of Germany who knowingly cooperated with the Nazi regime and were directly complicit in the events, but this was not part of an overall Allied strategy at the time. Since then however, those conspirators who acted outside of the law and colluded with the enemy have reaped grand rewards and have escaped responsibility for their collaboration. For more on that, you can research everything from Operation Paperclip, to the Bush family history. There are other big name conspirators who collaborated with the Nazis who remain the driving forces in world affairs.
Originally posted by lazy1981
And yes, the Romans named that area "Palestine" so it was known by that name long before the 20's.
Originally posted by lazy1981
I'm pretty sure that the Gaza Strip was Egyptian territory prior to the Arab Israeli wars anyway.
Originally posted by lazy1981
I wish I could. But I don't realy think that Israel would ever let that come to light, do you. The Nazi's tried there best to keep their escapades under wraps as any government would and does.
Originally posted by lazy1981
Let me start by saying no, I have never been to Israel but I have seen the news and meet Some Israelis and there seems to be an awfull lot of fair skinned people that claim that land as their ancestrial home. Now lets not forget the flocks of millions that came from Europe and Russia.
Originally posted by lazy1981
Whether or not the Bible is or isn't a literal history is a good point. I'm sure that some of it isn't entirely accurate. So do we then pick and choose which parts we want to beleive? Ok then I choose not to beleive that the Jews hold any legitimate claim to the land they call Israel then. That is what they base their claims on anyway right (they get it straight from the Bible) so then the matter is settled I suppose.
Originally posted by lazy1981
We didn't "make" Israel do anything we asked them not to respond and we did in fact take care of the problem. We didn't want Sadamm's plan to work. He only did that because knew that the Arabs in the coalition would drop out if they knew that Israel was involved or attacked Iraq in any way. Try your trickery on someone that doesn't like history.
Originally posted by lazy1981
All I see is American and British boys and girls fighting and dying. A few Austrailians and other just to be fair but a token number compaired to our troop levels. So where are they???????????????
Originally posted by lazy1981
Originally posted by masonica_esoterica
I am in no means justifying bombings of any type by any one group of people on another,be they suicide or air strike,however how do you stop a suicide bomber?
Originally posted by masonica_esoterica
I am in no means justifying bombings of any type by any one group of people on another,be they suicide or air strike,however how do you stop a suicide bomber?They obviously place no value on their own life, so you can't really threaten them with death, as that is their means to an end.However they most likely want their loved ones to live, so I imagine after a few bombings of the families of suicide bombers, the incidence of suicide bombings would decline somewhat.Just because you are willing to sacrifice your own life to an ideology, does not inherently mean you are willing to sacrifice your wife, children, mother,father etc as well.Both sides in the dispute are dealing death at the end of the day.
Originally posted by spirit7
Rock and roll has nothing to do with NWO. You can blame Elvis Presley for it, not NWO. LOL Rock and roll came about after world war II and it's just what the country needed.
Originally posted by mmmeat
Originally posted by masonica_esoterica
I am in no means justifying bombings of any type by any one group of people on another,be they suicide or air strike,however how do you stop a suicide bomber?
Educate them.
The inability to sway with words or dilate a mind comes from ignorance.
Your pal,
Meat.
Originally posted by danieltowsey
Thats terrible thinking...so if someone in your family goes out a kills someone..you thinks it would be alright to go and kill you and all your family....
That is absolutely scary thinking..
Originally posted by masonica_esoterica
How do you educate someone in a media controlled Theocracy where extreme fundamentalists have used religion as a means to an end,and twist words of holy writ for a demographic of people to validate their campaigns of bloodshed and death?Ever research "honor killings" in Islamic countries?Tell me how a society that tolerates that is capable of being educated in theories that run counter to their indoctrination.Some parts of religious texts are not really applicable in today's society because of the antiquated time that they were written in.Jews and Christians both have reverence for the Old Testament as the word of God, but I don't see them stoning people to death for transgressions,even the most fundamentalist Jews and Christians,as opposed to militant Islam...