Are whites scared to vote black.

reply to post by Wally Conley

People should vote for who is more suited for the position. It always seem
to get in the way because someone is different then express what race
are they? Despite it all the war and economy is really tore up, and it is not
because of Obama;it is about the ones who people felt they were safe with.
All in all, the people who did vote for them and will vote for them again,

I am a 18 year old White Male.

I am PROUD to vote for Obama. He is our only hope. Most of my friends are voting for him too. Yes there are racists out there (unfortunately), but please don't think we all are.

The KKK has made many threats to kill him should he make it into office. But what a victory it would be for him to at least win. In my opinion, (as much as I hate the idea of "thought crimes" all KKK members should be exiled from this country. (Maybe throwing them in Africa will change there minds hehe.)

But anyways, I am confident Obama will be a great leader, and he has a huge load on his shoulder. He WOULDN'T [snip] this up. That much I know. He always gets his stories straight, I am sick of having Cowboys from the South in Office. Seriously.

roflmfao

neversurrender

[edit on 30-9-2008 by NeverSurrender]

removed profanity

[edit on 1/10/08 by masqua]

i cant stand obama, but its not because of the color of his skin. i dont see color

i just think his views are of his own reality, not the reality that is actually reality, huh, did that make sense

I think whites are more afraid to vote for Obama because he is more a socialist than he is black.
Plain and simple, once you go socialist you can't go back.

reply to post by Mrknighttime32


Not this Cracker! I don't give a rat's @ss what race the candidate is, only if he or she is the most qualified and capable of leading this nation in the right direction! After the last eight years, I think we should all be able to agree that one's race does not mean that one is the best choice for the job.

Here it goes again white people won't vote for Obama cause he is black,could it have anything to do with the fact he comes off as a clueless kid at times,seems to be easily upset and I hate that smirk on his face

One of the many problems with Obama is that he is only where he is because he is black. Geraldine Ferraro will back me up on that.

The better question is if there is a black candidate and a white candidate.....Are blacks scared to vote white? I ask that since Obama most likely will get 98% of the black vote. Are they scared to vote for the opposite race?

Doesn't factor in a bit. And doesn't factor in a bit for anyone else I know either.But this area (around DC) is very much a mixed soup so people don't think about it very much.

In fact, areas where people are all one race I think feels creepy.

But that is this area, in other areas race may actually play a card.

[edit on 1-10-2008 by NGC2736]

Originally posted by RRconservative
The better question is if there is a black candidate and a white candidate.....Are blacks scared to vote white? I ask that since Obama most likely will get 98% of the black vote. Are they scared to vote for the opposite race?

Since blacks have faithfully voted Democrat since, well since they have been able to vote, I think that's rather an unfair question. If there was a black candidate on the Republican ticket, and the black vote was swing to that party for the first time, then your query might have some merit.

I'm a white guy, early 50s, not politically pigeon-holeable.

I subscribe to no political party and my state does not have open primaries, so I am denied a voice until it gets to the point of the general election. (bastards)

So now I am left with the choices of write in Ron Paul or vote one of the mainstream candidates.

Writing in Ron Paul is a decision I'll make on the day. If I vote for one of the mainstream guys, it'll be Obama. With him there is a > 0% chance things will be better in a direction I prefer. With McCain, I consider it a 0% chance. And I really despise the direction my country has taken recently.

I'm not making this decision based on what color he happens to be, but I admit him being as he puts it "not the normal pedigree" makes the whole thing a bit more interesting to me. I think his "pedigree" has a bunch of people spooked, whether they admit it or are even fully aware of it or not. And I think having that family as the First Family will, or at least might if people let it, do some serious cultural good in this country.

As Semper mentioned:

Racism is not dead my friend, just swept farther under the rug....

and I think having an African-American First Family would do some good in this regard.

Please everyone tell me what you think.

I think the 'race card' can NO LONGER be played. It simply doesn't apply! People will vote for who they BELIEVE in, not what the candidate looks like.. its really wrong to assume that race is even a factor any longer.

Personally, I don't vote, but speaking for the voters that I know -- this question is pointless, a waste of space and shouldn't have even been asked..

Unless, of course, you could answer the same question as to why older african americans wouldn't vote for Hillary because she's white. After all, its true that ALL older african americans hate ALL 'white people' too? Right?

- Mea

Edit to add: One of the greatest friends I have (and have had for almost a decade) is african american, so don't even think about throwing the racist card at me for speaking the truth.

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Veritas Lux Mea]

Originally posted by RRconservative
One of the many problems with Obama is that he is only where he is because he is black.

Yeah, 'cause he's really stupid, has no appeal and ZERO ambition.

Are blacks scared to vote white?

Clearly not, as they have been voting for a while now and they've ALWAYS voted for white people in the past.

Im white, ill vote Obma.

His going to win!

And then what, blame the black guy?


"No one out side of America knows the other dude's name"

Lets just hope his not another Ragan/Actor/Puppet.

If the other dude wins .......

reply to post by Veritas Lux Mea


I would vote for you based on the looks of your avatar.

I think looks do influence who we vote. However, I think most americans see Obama as handsome and youthful and McCain as old. So thats 1-0 for Obama. Thats the psychology behind getting Palin in. So that its 1-1.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Veritas Lux Mea

 

I would vote for you based on the looks of your avatar.

I think looks do influence who we vote. However, I think most americans see Obama as handsome and youthful and McCain as old. So thats 1-0 for Obama. Thats the psychology behind getting Palin in. So that its 1-1.

Thats part of American/World politics.Vote for the guy that looks good, and on paper.

I dosn't matter he mght be a sleeze-ball with a long family history of sleeze.
Or does it?

From an attraction point of view..........if 2 people and one of them looks like a bag of homelss crap. and one looks like a rich SOAB.

If one of them says "go left"..and one says "go right"...your most likely' to listen to the SOAB.




[edit on 1-10-2008 by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H]

The people here are representative of a certain demographic. They have computers, use the internet, have an interest in certain things that lead up to them participating on these forums.

So when people say, "I'm not racist, and heck, there's no such thing as racism. It doesn't apply anymore. People are going to vote for the best guy", it might seem like that, from this perspective. But there are other people, in very different demographics.

I grew up in a small town in Idaho. Less than 5000 people. Earlier this year, for the 4th of July, I went back to this town and spent a week with family, old friends and the community.

This is the sort of place that still has public dances, fireworks, parades, rodeos and food stands, where the small community all piles into the downtown spending all day there, milling in the corner bars(places that akin to what you think of when you think of English Pubs) to drink and be social.

Several times during my stay, the conversation ran towards politics.

And you're wrong if you think there's no such thing as racism as a factor in this election. While for the most part, these people seemed to have no problem with Obama as a man, it was the idea of 'blacks as a whole', that bothered them. They fear "blacks taking over the Whitehouse" and other such things. They're thinking emotionally, not rationally.

Racism isn't a rare thing, it's a matter of fact. Sure, it's a lot more subtle than having two water fountains, or making people ride in the back of the bus, but it's there nonetheless.

The way I read it, they'd vote for McCain, but they're really unhappy with the last eight years, even though most of them voted for Bush. They want another option. But they're uncomfortable with Obama's race. And Hillary? While many of them seem to like her, many of them seem to hate her too. Again, it seemed to be mostly an emotional thing, no one could give me reasons, just things like, "She's shrill, she's bitchy, etc." But not one comment about her abilities, knowledge or experience.