Ron Paul Newsletter - Anti-gay, Pro-Klan and 9/11 was Mossad!, page 2
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:34 PM by harddrive21
reply to post by Togetic



Yes, if it was any other politician we would be all over them. Those are 2 good points. I just can't believe option 2 because, as a politician, he would know that anything with his name on it would come back and get him. As you pointed out option 1 seems the most plausible. There is an Option 3. He wrote the whole thing from the beginning with a pen name - though this is really really unlikely.


reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 10:49 PM by Areal51
I don't buy Ron Paul's response. To me it's worthless. The fact that such hate speech was published over the course of decades under his name definitely qualifies as guilty by association. I don't understand how someone who has allegedly stood for all Americans over his entire career could allow such garbage to be published under his name or be associated with his name for DECADES. Paul's response does not ring true. It's like the late and former CEO Kenneth Lay saying, "I didn't know." That he wasn't aware of any of the illegal activities the executives of his company were involved with. How could a person of Lay's talent and shrewd ability not know anything? Not much is going to get by someone of Kenneth Lay's stature. His was the quintessential rags to riches story. Anyway, Ron Paul operates in the public arena where one's image and reputation are everything. Because of that, it is impossible for me to believe, “In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’ Those sentiments do not jibe with the content of his newsletters at all. In fact, why have sentiments such as those not been brought forth yet, that have been published in Ron Paul's newsletters? It would be the perfect rebuttal by his campaign to produce such an article written by Ron Paul's hand during the time period those newsletters were published. Preferably and article that appears alongside the garbage in question.

Paul consistently denies having wrote those article, yet he doesn't go as far to furnish proof that he did not write them. Yes, it was years ago, but I do not see any other candidate that is not also suffering the actions of there past. Words written and published constitute actions taken. They are not just words, they are meaning and communication, and whether Ron Paul wrote them or not the fact is that they are associated with his name, and as far as I am concerned, he has not done enough to dispel the stench.

For some reason the Ron Paul Campaign will not take the easy way out bury this issue for once and for all. If one wants the full scoop one has to have access to the University of Kansas and the Wisconsin Historical Society in order to research Paul's newsletters. Any attempt to bring the content of the newsletters to light results attacks against the writers who make an attempt to do so. Maybe the records of who wrote what no longer exist. Who knows? I cannot imagine any other candidate having a ghost of a chance at party nomination, never mind as POTUS, with having their name associated with such material. Would Barack Obama be in the position that he is in if such newsletters were attributed and associated with him? No. If those articles were associated with any politician on the current ticket, you could bet the value of your home that those candidates would not be on the current ticket. No one would believe that Hillary Clinton wouldn't have been aware that such newsletters had been published under her name without her consent or approval, anymore than they believed her when she denied having withheld billing records for legal work she had done at the Rose Law Firm for Madison Guaranty in connection with Whitewater Development Corporation. It is clear to me that the Ron Paul Campaign has not been completely forthcoming.


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 12:44 AM by harddrive21
reply to post by AlienS



Now that doesn't sit well - Lew was RP's chief of staff and Lew has a website of his own. Wouldn't that newsletter be the Lew Rockwell Chronicles (or Report or Freedom Report, etc)? Why would he put his boss's political career at risk?
Just doesn't fit.


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 07:28 AM by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by spacedoubt



but it's not too much of a political hit when you realize just how believable it is... especially coming from the guy who said that the civil rights act is unconstitutional...
and how he's parroted that same "change the hearts and minds" stuff on racial issues that someone like strom thurmond would say.


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 09:57 AM by Togetic
reply to post by spacedoubt



My point, I think worthy of being iterated, is that even if he didn't write the words, and even if he didn't agree with the words, how could he allow himself to be so passive when other people were writing in his name?

It, to me, makes me wonder what else he isn't paying attention to.... And could we trust him with executive power? Would people be running around behind his back acting in his name in that situation? How absolutely frightening is that prospect?

[edit on 1/9/2008 by Togetic]


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 10:29 AM by harddrive21
reply to post by apc



Ah, well nevermind then. It looks like it varies from 1 to 5 years depending on state (example Massachusetts is 3 years). But this newsletter has been online and ongoing.

Here is the link to the site and a snippet from the sidebar :
www.free-nefl.com...


NOTICE TO RON PAUL SUPPORTERS:
Congressman Ron Paul is no longer affiliated with or associated in any way with The Liberty Committee of Falls Church, Virginia.
If you receive a solicitation from The Liberty Committee and/or its chairman,
Mr. David James, bearing Congressman Paul's name, please be advised that the solicitation was in no way approved or endorsed by Congressman Paul.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


So my only question is when did the affiliation end?


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 02:28 PM by The Walking Fox
reply to post by Togetic



Especially since he did write several articles for said newsletter. I find it hard to believe that he never picked up a copy and went "hey wait a gosh-danged minute...!" and tried to get the writer's ass kicked.

It's Occam's razor. Either...
A) He never wrote those articles, only other articles, for a newsletter printed in his name that he never read and had no editing power over, that ran for thirty years without a shred of input from him (even though he wrote for it...)
Or..
B) He either wrote those articles or supported them.

Either Paul is a clueless bastard who makes his life WAY too complicated for anyone's good, or he's your typical racist-ass libertarian.
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