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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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You know what i was thinking?
All of these crazy stories can have the same agenda behind them.....what if they are all the doings of some few screenwriters who want to make a movie about all this stuff? So they make up all this outlandish information about a galactic war and the post it here to see if it gets a following. Then i guess it just snowballs from there......




posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by GUICE2
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Im talking about the word companion i believe.....and it could have been in the apochrapha (is that how you spell it hahahah) but im not sure.
Either way that word, as described by some scholars, literally meant marriage in those days and now it means just friends i guess, or someone who keeps you company. I was just trying to say that you cannot judge language that is supposed to be describing a history that is millions of years old by our modern day contexts. I dont even think something like this can even be properly translated to where we can all understand its full meaning. Lost in translation.......probably lots.

If it's the word 'companion' that's got you hung up, then it's from the Gospel of Philip.

And, again, it comes down to context.

"That word" wasn't necessarily 'companion,' and - further - if you're going to attribute it to being part of the bible (or even part of the New Testament Apocrypha) you're going to have a hard time convincing me that companion meant whatever it is you want it to mean. Companion is used throughout the bible (Exodus 2:13: 'behold, two Hebrew men were fighting, and he said to the one who did the wrong, "Why are you striking your companion?"'; Judges 14:20: 'And Samson's wife was given to his companion, who had been his best man.; Zechariah 13:7: "Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd, Against the Man who is My Companion," Says the Lord of hosts.; Revelations 1:9: 'I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom' and so on) and it doesn't mean marriage at all.

I'm not judging language; I'm saying that - specifically - our language system isn't as old as you're attempting to say that it is, and the the definitions of words isn't going to change all that much over the short amount of time we've used it. The language used is based on the accepted definitions of the words of said language.

If you don't want to use the accepted defintions of the words, do so at your own peril; you're not going to be able to understand anything written or spoken. And watch in what context you use the word "gay."

Your pal,
Meat.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by GUICE2
You know what i was thinking?
All of these crazy stories can have the same agenda behind them.....what if they are all the doings of some few screenwriters who want to make a movie about all this stuff? So they make up all this outlandish information about a galactic war and the post it here to see if it gets a following. Then i guess it just snowballs from there......


There is no secret society of screenwriters. I can say this with authority, because I am one. No secret handshakes, no covert meetings, no fears of cowans or evesdroppers. Just a bunch of narcissistic loners that (a) drink too much; (b) eat too much; (c) spank the monkey too much; (d) know too much about old movies; or (d) do some or all of the above.

Your pal,
Meat.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 12:37 PM
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No no no ....i didnt mean a secret society. I was just saying that all this could be a marketing ploy for the promotion of movies in the future just like people said about the isaac thing. Only because some of these posts are so outlandish that they pretty much sound like a science fiction movie and we have all been so indoctrinated to beleive that anything we see on screen that goes against the status quo concept of reality is not the truth and is just science fiction. So when you see a post about huge mother ships and you watch independence day you see large similarities.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 01:10 PM
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The prytaneum of H.R.G. Athens disclose to the Hellenes Masons a fraction of a Rabbinic initiation to the degree of arch rabbi. The recording was made using radioelectronic means and was executed by ex officers of the Greek central intelligence service in behalf of H.R.G .

Place of initiation: “Lodge of the Grand Oak” New York, January 1985.


BEGINNING OF THE RECORDED SPEECH

..Brothers, the oath of silence you gave under the penalty of death in case of violation, doesn’t have humble personal motivations or motivations of an earthly organization, but protects our great plan of our lord Metatron Yehowehai, continuously here and 13.500 years after the arrival of Selene(moon) and Lilith in our space area. In the rabbinical initiation you have been taught about the technique of anions and downwardly-ions from vocal vibes of the cabala for the causation of physical hologram phenomena of materialization and dematerialization that we present to the Goyim gentile of the Masonic lodges OTO and MTM as miracle actions of spirits or telepathy.

You have not been taught though that the vocal vibes of cabala automatically convert to electromagnetic vibration frequencies due to physical laws that can be detected by receivers of lunar technology and the technology of our underground Atlantian brothers.

You have not been taught that the so called miracles that amaze the senses of the gentile masons goyim (animals), are caused by transmitters of lunar and underground Atlantian technology, that focus electromagnetic holographic frequencies of materialization and dematerialization to the place from which they received the cabalistic encoded vibrations request, anywhere in the planet that a cabalistic session took place.

And most important of all you have not been taught that our brothers of Selene and the underground lodges of our planet use the same frequency transmitters in order to cause angelic miracles of the official religions, and demonic miracles of black and white magic, according to the terminology we asserted to the goyim.

While the gentile goyim counts entries and exits of spirits in their Masonic cabalistic sessions, it is impossible for them to conceive that they are actually watching the focus of holographic frequencies been produced by our brother technology, able to produce any physical phenomena, even artificial antigravity, and even interference to the cellular function in order to harm or to cure.

The goyims of masonry must continue to believe in the spiritual origin of those “miracles”, because the revelation of their origin from technology, could wipe out the psychological terror we force upon them with the use of cabala.
More importantly, they must not be aware of the common origin of frequencies that cause phenomena to the brotherhood of the left path and to the brotherhood of the right path, form the same technology transmitters been used underground and over earth by our same brothers, under the command of our sovereign master Metatron Asmodai.

You now understand the convenience of silence and the secrecy level of this knowledge. We must not allow under any means the leaking of this knowledge that reveals the unity and the unification of the parties God-Angels or Christ-Saints and Devil-Demons, not even between old rabbis, because there is a grave danger from the demystification of the polarity God-Devil or Good-Evil, with devastating results for our final plan of the religious/political polarity Christ-Antichrist or Socialism-Fascism or Christian Socialism – Buddhist Fascism. It is unthinkable to imperil such a brilliant plan of 13.500 years, now that it is close to completion.

In general terms you already know the facts from your rabbinical initiation. We roundup quickly for the connection with what follows from your chief-rabbinical initiation.

The ships Selene and Lilith forced to abandon the constellation of Arcturus because of the collapsing and death of the sun from the Epsilon Bootes system. They searched for refuge in a new planetary system for survival of the rescued populations from the planets of E’Bootes. There was a fortunate opportunity because after the arrival in the present planetary system, they didn’t encountered unified forces of galactic government ships, but a situation of conflict between the leader of the planet Saturn who has overthrown the galactic representation of the Uranides from planet Uranus, and the leader of planet Jupiter (Zeus) who counterattacked Saturn in order to reconnect the present planetary system with the Central Galactic Authority. (skeptical2012 comment: Read Hesiod Theogony about the conflicts of the dynasties of Uranus against Saturn)

The ships and crews of Zeus prevailed in the conflict. In that point, arrived in our space area the two ships, Levanah (moon) and Lilith, under the leadership of commander Asmodai Metatron Yehowehai, our sovereign master. Metatron asked from Zeus permission to disembark populations from Levanah (moon) and Lilith in order for their survival in planet Earth.

The permission was authorized but only for the continent of Atlantis, that belonged to the commanding authority of the junior officer of Zeus, Poseidon, and was populated by 10 Andromedian tribes of Helenes, from an original colonization from the Galaxy of Andromeda. The transport ships from Moon and Lilith disembarked our ancestors who soon abandoned the worship and leadership of Metatron and turned to the worship of Poseidon and Zeus, assimilated by the Hellenic Andromedian races of 10 Poseidonian tribes.

This event enraged Yahweh Metatron who sunk Atlantis in the deep of the Atlantic Ocean by creating upon this continent electromagnetic low field of additional gravitational inspissation, through lunar technology. From our Atlantian ancestors have been rescued only their colonies outside Atlantis, namely the group-of-races of Mongols, Israelites, Arabs. This event gave the occasion and the cause of total war between Zeus and Yahweh Metatron.

In the space war that followed, Metatron Yahweh enlisted the defeated by Zeus forces of Saturn and -as considered natural- all the Earthly Saturnian priesthoods. Zeus enlisted the forces of Uranides and the corresponding Earthly priesthoods of Uranides. The situation that followed was chaotic.

The camp of Metatron contained overearth forces of Saturn, Selene, Lilith, earthly forces of Selenians, Lilithians and underearth forces of Cronians that have been defeated by Zeus.

The camp of Zeus contained overearth forces of planets Uranus, Jupiter, earthly forces of Uranus, underground forces of Uranides that have been defeated by Saturn.

Because of geological alternations that followed the sinking of Atlantis, the opposing European and Hellenic Atlantian armies were destroyed as mentioned by Timaios and Kritias of Plato. This book must disappear from the libraries of Hellenes because it makes possible for our adversaries Andromedian Hellenes, to investigate the whole history. Alike, the book Hesiod’s Theogony, in which is dangerously clearly mentioned the conflict between Uranides – Cronos (Saturn) – Zeus.

Until here everything is known to you by your rabbinical initiation. The additional knowledge that will be given to you in your chief rabbinical initiation concerns the dominance of the alliance of ships Metatron – Saturn because of a paradox and surprising withdrawal of ships from the alliance of Zeus – Uranus ,while they were dominant in the space battle, a withdrawal partially inside the inner cavity of our planet (through the polar holes) and partially in the 3 outer planets Neptune (Poseidon), Pluto, Uranus, outer orbital level of planet Saturn.

Zeus informed Metatron that he withdraw victorious in order to avoid further destruction of earthly fauna and flora, in anticipation of reinforced galactic forces that will shorten the length of the space war. Those ships of Zeus, launched out of bases inside the earth’s cavity and out of the 3 outer planets, continue till today to scout the surface of our planet escorted by ships from 13 battle planets that have arrived in our planetary system in 1984, as representatives of the 13 galaxies from the local group of galaxies, called by ships of our grand Andromedian opponent, Zeus.

We are being completely surrounded brothers but we will not dispirit, with the force of our sovereign master Yahweh Asmodai Metatron.

Alike, the knowledge that will be given to you in your chief rabbinical initiation concerns the strategic need that came in order for the underground Centaurian Cronians and the underground Atlantians to act, in their frequency transmissions to the surface of the planet, as underground Uranides and as underground Diians of the inner cavity of the planet, in order for the last ones to take the blame of diabolical forces of the abyss or the underworld, through transmission of corruption and degeneration to the earthlings on the surface.

Concerns alike the strategic need that came in order for the overearth Cronians, Selenians, Lilithians to act as the overearth hostile forces of the planets Neptune (Poseidon), Pluto, Uranus in order for the last ones to take the blame of diabolical space forces, as is revealed in the book of apocalypse in our Bible: “The Dragon that is dragging with his tail the third of the stars”, which are actually the 3 outer out of the 9 planets of our solar system.

Our strategic needs were fulfilled completely through our state-of-the-art double game of miracles of God-Christ-Angels and Devil-Demons, from technology transmitters of our overearth, earthly, and underground brothers Alelu – Yahweh, Alelu - Ia,

In today’s ceremonial oath will not add many more. In tomorrow’s initiation beginning you will have the opportunity to enter in the demystification of the John’s Apocalypse of our holy script, with full analysis of our Selenian and underground Atlantian technology that will be used for the Armageddon scheme, in order to terrorize and eliminate the Andromedian races. They would be given to you the protection countermeasures from this kind of technology in order to protect our local brothers in your appointment places. Those countermeasures must at all costs not be promulgated neither to gentile Andromedians neither to our simple rabbi brothers. Those countermeasures require knowledge of physics that you have partly through the cabala, and you will partly get in the end of your initiation.

You will have the great chance to find out how brilliant is our unified scheme Christ-Antichrist with its political corresponding extensions, namely Socialism-Fascism, that will completely overthrow the cultural trend of the Hellenized Andromedian planet Earth. Project Armageddon must be accelerated as maximum as possible because already from 1947 we receive in our planetary system signals from ships of the Galactic Government except those of Zeus from our planetary system. We have indications that between those ships there are ships from Andromeda Galaxy being called by the ships of Zeus from the 3 outer planets.

We believe that they are launched from the 13 battle planets of the 13 galaxies from the local group of galaxies KNOZ 3 centered on Andromeda. Many out of those came into contact with earthlings, members of Andromedian races and especially with Andromedian Hellenes to transfer to them instructions or receive strategic information about our capabilities and equipment. We have arranged for those earthling witnesses of those events to be closed to mental institutions and to suffer electrical shocks in order to erase their memories and their experiences.

Those ships asked numerously times from the communication centers of our strategic installations the unconditional surrender of the planet. We have been given an interference ultimatum. We will defend though with all the forces of the 6 inner planets, Moon, Lilith, USA, Soviet Union and the rest of the nations. Whatever will be the outcome of the next star war, earthling’s goyims will be convinced that the galactic government will be the diabolical force of demons and diabolical U.F.O.’s and a Galactic Government of Fascism.

Our brothers bankroll the cinema-movies artform industry and according to our instructions they have presented to global audience the Galactic Government as a fascistic evil empire (skeptical2012 comment: Star-Wars movie) that attacks earth. Our ships of Saturn and Selene will attack earth, if we are defeated, in order to be impossible for the Galactic Federation to disembark crews that will make friendship with earthlings, after the blame of Fascist Devil of corruption that will give to them through the destruction caused by our weapon systems and our frequency transmitters of holographic phenomena.

The blame will be absolute against the Galactic Government through the Atlantian and Saturnian underground Centaurian abnormity that will -with the order of Yahweh- soon climb to the surface of the planet using the fake name of Zeus and Apollo or Apollionos or Abadon, as was mentioned in the scheme of the Apocalypse of our holly scripture, chapter Theta, verse 11.

Already from the point of beginning of our geopolitical scheme in Mesopotamia 680 years before the birth of our brother Joshua, we have corrupted the priesthoods of Zeus and his 12 junior officers, by using our brothers who have corrupted them by finally taking their leadership. Beginning from the Hellenic Colhida which lied where is today’s Mongolia and Thibet, and continuing to the Hellenistic civilizations of Mesopotamia, Babylon, Persia, Delphi, Egypt, Roman Etruscans, Northern Europe, American continent, we have genocide the Andromedian races in such a rate that their extinction from the face of this planet will be certain.

We have corrupted their priesthoods that kept the original traditions of their previous space lords, in such a rate that they became synonymous of corruption, of degeneration, of hunger, of wars and unworthy government, of treason and idolatry, in order to completely erase their archetype.

In the time point of the sixth geopolitical force that we have founded in Rome, we replaced the 12 Olympian Gods, which we have corrupted to the eyes of goyim, with the 12 followers of our brother Joshua, thus the Hellenic dodecahedron of Zeus and the Hellenic monotheism of Phaneos were destroyed in favour of the Atlantian dodecahedron of Jeshua son of Metatron Yahweh, and in favour of Israelite, Mongolian Turanian, Arabic, dodecahedron, twelve-races, with the 12 symbolic stones and the 12 gates of upper Jerusalem of the Moon as mentioned in the Apocalypse of our brother John in the Bible, for the fulfilment of the words from prophet Zachariah, Chapter Theta, verse 13:

“I will turn your sons Zion against your sons Hellas. The sons of Zion will destroy the opposing Hellenes with sling stones in the forehead”.

Meaning with spiritual stones of religions and political-economical theories we have invented against the spirit, or forehead of the head of Hellenes for their absolute aphasia and stupefaction and division.

END OF RECORDED SPEECH



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 03:36 PM
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If that was originally in Hebrew, I'll eat my hat.

Show us the hebrew you "translated."

What's the hebrew word for "moon(selene)"?

What's the hebrew word for "arch rabbi"? Why wouldn't "great rabbi" or "high priest" have been a more exact translation? What hebrew term did you choose to translate this way, and why?


Perhaps the text would be more readily comprehensible if it were translated into less florid prose.

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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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Levanah is the hebrew word for the moon and that is the codeword also used by some masons under a certain degree and up.

Selene is the hellenic translation same word for the moon also, an archaic moon deity titanide, meaning conected with Cronos-Saturn.

The secret god of the hebrews, arabs, semitic race group is the moon god.

The moon plays a key role to the esoteric tradition of those races.

As I said before and I will repeat here I don't have the actual recordings, only the transcripts that were translated to greek for publication by HRG to specific Hellenic recipients back in 1985 mainly to Hellenes Masons.




[edit on 10-1-2008 by skeptical2012]



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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Thanks yet again for translating these transcripts. I must confess, I need to do a lot more research in this area before I can even begin to understand them. Its refreshing to come across something like this that challenges our way of thinking


Just a couple of questions.

Are you aware of any similar translations of these transcripts on the internet?

Do you have any links (for people like myself who are not very knowledgeable in this area ) to web sites that are directly related to what is being described in these transcripts?

I cant help notice that you have refrained from expressing your personal opinion(s) on what is being described in these transcripts. Do you have an opinion?


Regards
Freelancer



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by GUICE2
reply to post by mmmeat
 


No no no ....i didnt mean a secret society. I was just saying that all this could be a marketing ploy for the promotion of movies in the future just like people said about the isaac thing. Only because some of these posts are so outlandish that they pretty much sound like a science fiction movie and we have all been so indoctrinated to beleive that anything we see on screen that goes against the status quo concept of reality is not the truth and is just science fiction. So when you see a post about huge mother ships and you watch independence day you see large similarities.


Ah.

Well, then it has nothing to do with writers, then. Marketing is done by marketing departments and salescum, and the consensus among everyone on the planet is that salescum are, actually, a form of reptile.


Your pal,
Meat.



posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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skeptical 2012, this quote makes it sound like you are translating the text yourself:



Originally posted by skeptical2012
Dear friends,
I am close to finish the translation of the 2nd transcript with extremely out-of-the-box context. I am trying hard to do a decent job in order to keep context as close to the original as posible.
I have to warn you though. Be prepared. It is very extreme, way out of the mainstream. Only for Open-minded non-dogmatic people..

I hope you will enjoy reading it as I enjoyed translating it.


[edit on 10-1-2008 by skeptical2012]



And then you posted this:


As I said before and I will repeat here I don't have the actual recordings, only the transcripts that were translated to greek for publication by HRG to specific Hellenic recipients back in 1985 mainly to Hellenes Masons.


So are you translating the text, or did someone else do it? If you are working with another language (other than English), what is it?

I'll tell you why I'm asking. If you are fluent in another language, then you know that other languages are not merely "English in code." Each language has it's own word-order and rythmn, as well as concepts that are easier or more difficult to express in a given language.

I'll confess that I absolutely do not believe that what you have posted was written in a language other than English. I'm also completely confident that whoever wrote or spoke it knew next to nothing about masonry, Qaballah, or Judaica in general.

There, I've said it. Other people are free to believe whatever they want. But I know a few things (not everything, but a few things) about Judaism and Masonry; and based on what I know I'm calling it a fraud, and posting why.

If you bother to explain why I'm wrong, I'd be quite interested. Otherwise I'll defer to others, since I think I've made a compelling case that this document is not what you are claiming it is.

It is neither authentic nor valid.


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posted on Jan, 10 2008 @ 08:27 PM
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My mistake also... This is less about a clumsy Protocols of the Elders of Zion and more a kind of retarded version of Priory of Sion. And that is pretty freaking retarded.



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by DogHead
Jesus Prison Showering Christ, how insane does a post have to be here before some kind of functional limit is reached? It's like an affective disorder convention! A smorgasbord of neuroses.


You're new here, aren't you...



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 12:16 AM
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Why yes, I am. What was the clue?
I guess it's the fact that I don't wear one of those nifty white jackets with tied up sleeves that lace up at the back?



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 08:03 AM
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Originally posted by DogHead
May I suggest that the OP is merely trying to perpetrate a gobsmackingly clumsy updated version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

Jesus Prison Showering Christ, how insane does a post have to be here before some kind of functional limit is reached? It's like an affective disorder convention! A smorgasbord of neuroses.


For someone who wants to knock every religion that is not Christianity, you sure know how to blaspheme.



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by skeptical2012
Levanah is the hebrew word for the moon and that is the codeword also used by some masons under a certain degree and up.


Which Masons? Please specify.

What "certain degree"?

I am pushing the B.S. button on you skeptical. I challenge you to back up the above statement. You write it as though it is fact. Let's see some evidence, because there is no use of that "word" (if you can even call it a word) in Masonry. Period.

As for the supposed Hebrew itself, I throw my support to Dr_Strangecraft, as my knowledge of the language is limited, but from his writings, he appears to know what he's talking about.




As I said before and I will repeat here I don't have the actual recordings, only the transcripts that were translated to greek for publication by HRG to specific Hellenic recipients back in 1985 mainly to Hellenes Masons.


And what in the world are "hellenes Masons?"

Personally I think we're all having our proverbial chains yanked.



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by DogHead
Why yes, I am. What was the clue?
I guess it's the fact that I don't wear one of those nifty white jackets with tied up sleeves that lace up at the back?


Oh, there are numerous clues.

As for the nifty white jackets, well, those cost 800 ATS points. Better get to work!



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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I applaud Dr. Strangecraft's work here. I think he has shown conclusively that the whole matter is a hoax.



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 09:07 AM
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arent there similarities to some of the other theories that we have heard on this site?
LIke all the stuff about the underground? And the atlantean races battling the andromedians?
And what about the fact that they mention the mas landing and how they controlled hollywood to secretly reveal and desensitize us to these images so that when they happen we will know how to react?
Someone started a whole thread on that idea i think before....or at least i read it in a thread. IT makes snese when you think about it....you see these huge ships around saturn and you see the resemblence to independance day ships.
Come on people....something is being said here and i dont think we should revers it completely without any investigation just because of language issues.....if these propehcies are a million years old and more or transcend time alltogether then how do we know if the language meant something completely different both in context and in definition?
Why dont we find out if we can get these publications from HRG like he stated there were?
WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by GUICE2
arent there similarities to some of the other theories that we have heard on this site?


Similarities don't make this (or the other threads) truthful.




Come on people....something is being said here and i dont think we should revers it completely without any investigation just because of language issues.....


Those issues prove it is not an authentic document. For people interested in truth and facts, language issues are an excellent way to prove that a disputed document is a forgery.



if these propehcies are a million years old and more or transcend time alltogether then how do we know if the language meant something completely different both in context and in definition?


Because it's written in 20th century American English; and shows fingerprints of being written by someone completely ignorant of Hebrew, Greek, and German, the purported languages involved.

You claiming that the words of this text have some "other meaning" means that only a believer like you can understand it. You are functionally saying that anyone using logic, reason, or prior knowledge is not "open minded."

I'm warning you that if you open your mind much further your brains will fall out!




Why dont we find out if we can get these publications from HRG like he stated there were?
WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE


I've already investigated. I've been "investigating" Judaica and Hebrew for 25 years now; and have studied ancient manuscripts professionally, and published articles about archaeology and ancient manuscripts. I've been following "fringe phenomena" since I found a copy of Charles Berlitz' The Bermuda Triangle in the mid-1970's.

I don't "need to investigate" a document that on it's face is a poorly written fraud.



posted on Jan, 11 2008 @ 10:17 AM
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But what if the publications to that hellenic society from HRG really exist? WOuldnt you want a chance to look at the original transcripts from the recordings? Thats what im saying man...if they exist.






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