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reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 09:46 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by jdposey



Not really....things take place without the knowledge of the general public.
Power could have been shifted over to the NWO already but we just dont know it yet and miight not until they instill a national curfue. You know what im trying to get at here?
It would take a lot of energy to make all this stuff up...even for the secret society that was recorded. Why would they secretly meet about things they secretly made up? Is it some sort of a dungeons and drangons club where they meet and play fantasy games in a basement? I doubt it since some of this information can be found all over the web, this site specifically and in things like the urantia book etc....
WE have to remove ourselves from the "context" that we are used to. From reading things like the urantia book and seeing posts like the OP's i have to come to the conlcusion that none of us know what the truth is and most of what we were taught were lies.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 09:57 AM by dr_strangecraft
Originally posted by GUICE2

You ever think that perhaps these words you are describing do not mean what you think they mean? Even if they are rooted in history.....these secret societies, especially if they are referring to a galactic existence, probably have information that out dates the inception of judaism and the denotations attached to all the language.
This would mean that WE dont know anything about what he is talking abot because everything we know is a lie.





Well, if they don't have the meanings I've presented, how come they are used that way in . . . . every manuscript we have, the Talmud, the Mishnah, the Tanakh itself. I'm not the one claiming that millions of words have been misinterpreted for the last 3000 years by the Jewish community worldwide.

Your argument is doing my work for me. Basically, what you've just argued is . . . that this text has nothing to do with historical Judaism.

IF the author really is using basic Masonic, Jewish and Qabalistic vocabulary in unknown ways, then he is miscommunicating on purpose, or else he doesn't know what the fudge he's talking about. Either way, he's so far beyond the Masonic, Jewish, and Qabalistic communities that to label him as such is more for the purpose of impressing the reader than for placing the author within an actual, real-world intellectual/religious community.


Basically, to salvage some truth-value out of this script, you're starting to throw everything else overboard. You're beginning to jettison things like, umm, real-world judaism, real-world languages like hebrew, real-world institutions like B'nai Brith and various schools of Jewish literary critism.

And what do you have left? You've still got this one document, that doesn't tell you anything useful, since you've now re-defined, or un-defined the meanings of the actual words it uses.

good luck with that.

.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 10:19 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by dr_strangecraft



No i totally see what you mean....but what im trying to say is that perhaps the words meant something different because they are rooted in a history that is millions of years old and not thousands. That is of course if it is true....that would mean that any interpretation we find here on earth is not even close to the truth. So yes....he knows nothing about historical judaism because he is speaking of something rooted in galactic history and not our religious history. Im just talking about context here....often times people become slaves to context and its the reason why most dont even being to entertain issues that are disccussed on this site.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 10:21 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by DogHead



Dude out of all the posts on this site....this is the one you deem to be outlandish? Hahaha....come on seriously. Did yo usee the ones about how celebrities are shapeshifting lizards?


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 10:41 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by DogHead



Anti semitism??
Im sorry but i dont understand what you mean by that....i separate myself from modern day context that most people think in. When i read what this guy posted i just took each name as just that....a name and just saw the conflict as a conflict between two existences. Why label it as antisemitism as if to say i hate jewish people if i beleive the context of this transcript?
These labels dont apply in my opinion because again, we are talking about millions of years of history arent we? Isnt antisemistism a label created by humans who attacthed the denotations and connotations to that specific word and what it may or may not represent?
Also....what is this protocols of the elders you mentioned? What is that? I would love to learn about that as well so can you post a link or something?

It is evident, and this is a revelation i have made just from being a member of this site and looking through all the different topics and posts....it is evident that there is a galactic confrontation that is about to take place and probably has been ongoing for as many years as there are stars. Years....we cant even measure it like that but you know what i mean. For as long as existence has existed, there was some galactic conflict that non of us know anything about. Yet we see the shadows of such happenings or what has happend through our religions, myths, and legends. YEt those are just SHADOWS....then it was left to man to create meaning and thats where we are now but if you beleive in something more than what we already know then how can you not see that whatever it is that we are all seeking is so far above our words, language, and thought process that we cannot PROVE them beyond any human reasonable doubt because our reasoning essentially doesnt apply?


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:11 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by mmmeat



Well... let me provide an example where context defines a peoples train of thought. The whole thing with jesus' divinity and mary as his wife.
The bible uses words that describe mary (dont know the word off hand) as his jesus' wife....but only in the context of that time because now the word used in the bible as an adjective for mary magdelane actually means something different. I hope you understand a little about what im trying to say....


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:30 AM by mmmeat
Originally posted by GUICE2
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post by mmmeat



Well... let me provide an example where context defines a peoples train of thought. The whole thing with jesus' divinity and mary as his wife.
The bible uses words that describe mary (dont know the word off hand) as his jesus' wife....but only in the context of that time because now the word used in the bible as an adjective for mary magdelane actually means something different. I hope you understand a little about what im trying to say....


Not really. Probably because it's out of context.

It's very DaVinci Code to believe that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' spouse. But that was a work of fiction that took certain portions of other works and - in a very Forrest Gump-like way - blended them into a very compelling story (and a less compelling movie).

What you're talking about may not be in the Bible. It could be in the apocrypha or maybe it's from a Gnostic writing. You find the part and I'm willing to go over it with you.

In the meantime, I stand by by opinion and my lament regarding context and ATS.

Your pal,
Meat.


reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 11:43 AM by GUICE2
reply to post by mmmeat



Im talking about the word companion i believe.....and it could have been in the apochrapha (is that how you spell it hahahah) but im not sure.
Either way that word, as described by some scholars, literally meant marriage in those days and now it means just friends i guess, or someone who keeps you company. I was just trying to say that you cannot judge language that is supposed to be describing a history that is millions of years old by our modern day contexts. I dont even think something like this can even be properly translated to where we can all understand its full meaning. Lost in translation.......probably lots.
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