Calling all UFO Experiencers...

reply to post by Beamish


Get familiar with 'ufo flaps'. I'm sure you know what this means, it is a period of high ufo activity. In 2002 when I saw the craft there were white lights I was seeing in the weeks before the sighting.

I told everyone I could to keep an eye out for a white ball of light that comes from darkness and expands and contracts evenly like the pupil of your eye. I had people tell me they were also seeing them and even had a friend see a ball of light with me while we were riding in his car.

The encounter with him went:

Me: Hey, you know those things I've been talking about?

Him: Yea

Me: Look out the window. You see it?

Him *glances out car window then keeps driving*: Yea.

Me: Ok look again. You see it now?

Him *glances*: No.

Me: Ok, now look again.

Him *glaces, sees it again and is obviously shook*: No, I didn't see anything.

The starter UFO is these white balls of light. I have had many friends see these, even when travelling to different states. My friends went to Colorado to work at a ski resort and saw these appearing, disappearing and the reappearing by different mountains. Sometimes they move when they dim ou and come back, sometime they stay in the same place. When I first started seeing these I put it off as a helicopter spotlight but there were no red and green lights when the light blacked out. They also don't appear 'bright' as in starring into a flashlight. They are pure white and perfectly concentric but do not seem to illuminate anything. Strange.

Keep an eye out for ufo flaps and know when the 'vibe' is in the air. I haven't had any sightings since late 2002 but 2002 was an active season. I was also delivering pizzas during this timeframe so I was out and about much more than I usually would be.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Johnny,
Join the breakfast club. As in really early morning b'fast club. We know what we've seen. Keep looking up.

Banner at St. Edward HS wrestling champions for decades, "The more we practice, the luckier we get".

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Lol, it's funny seeing someone say something local on a forum like this comprised of members from all over the world! Just shows you how small this world really is!

We are all BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER. That's why we are here. Very heartwarming thread and it's been a joy reading everyone's posts here!



[edit on 9-1-2008 by Palasheea]

reply to post by 2timesOO


Thanks for your reply.

I believe our brains have different ways to deal with the unknown and the unexplained.

I agree. What may be needed is the willingness to allow a paradigm shift in your thoughts and beliefs. Openess and trust, and patience are not only necessary too, IMO, but of supreme importance.

I think some people are chosen, especially when it comes to abductions. But I also think that seeing a UFO is more about being in the right place at the right time. From my experience of reading about sightings and encounters, I have to say that the overwhelming majority of these individuals were not "UFO hunters" and were not actively pursuing or seeking UFO's. They are just ordinary people of all ages, races and gender.

I also think it has a lot to do with where you live or where you are. Obviously you will have a much better chance of seeing a UFO living near Groom Lake than you will living in southern New Jersey, as I do. I have personally believed in the existence of UFO's and extraterrestrials for as long as I can remember, yet I have never seen or encountered either. At least that I can remember! For all I know, I could be getting abducted and probed every single night and having my memory erased!

I think if you really have a need or a calling to see UFO's, and you have the time, money, equipment and patience for it, then you should try visiting some of the better known "hot spots". There are a lot of places throughout the world where UFO sightings are supposedly a regular occurrence. There are even places on earth where people swear that there are underwater UFO "bases" and whatnot.

Personally, if I had the time and the money to do so, I would try visiting some of these hot spots- at least as part of a larger, unrelated vacation or trip. Perhaps taking a nice vacation to somewhere like Las Vegas and driving a rental car one day to the towns surrounding Groom Lake (I'm not even sure how close it is to Vegas) might be a good idea. I'd ask the locals what, if anything, they have seen and where the places to be are. This is just one random suggestion that can be applied in a lot of different ways to a lot of different locations. Doing your homework and a good amount of research should lead you to the right place.

But one thing can be said for certain... the OP and I clearly are not having the kind of success we hope for living in our respective areas. While UFO's can pop up anywhere at any time, they just don't seem to be popping up above our towns when we happen to be looking. I think a change of scenery is probably our best bet. Whether sightings are a result of luck or fate, or both, we seem to have neither where we are!

Happy hunting, and I hope one day you get to see what it is you're looking for! And I hope it's an enjoyable experience and one that you won't regret investing all that time into seeking!

Hi Beamish,

Originally posted by Beamish
Wow, ok, that's a lot of info there!

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
As is clearly explained and filmed in UFO: The Greatest Story Ever Denied, Zetan spacecraft - both the probes and the manned ships - are usually unseen to the naked eye. In the industry, this is referred to as optically invisibility.

and

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
you simply have to invest in some infrared night vision equipment, preferably attached to a video camera.

Originally posted by Beamish
Is it that simple?
Is my lack of sightings simply down to a lack of hardware?

Yes, and looking in the right places.

Originally posted by Beamish
I suppose this may well be a quick fix for my problem, and is certainly an avenue I will pursue, but it still leaves my original question unanswered in relation to daylight sightings; why can some folks simply look up, with a naked eye. and BAM! there's a light/disc etc?

There are a number of factors to be considered here:

1. Consider yourself lucky to not have had any contact with Zetan-aliens, as in most cases that contact is not benign but hostile.

2. Oftentimes the people who get the best glimpse of a UFO are also the ones who find they had missing time and/or remember being paralyzed. If you can see a Reticulan ship or probe, then it can see you, and may very well already have you in the cross hairs of their paralysis beams

3. You and/or those who live nearby may simply have not been a target worthy of investigation. In other words, if you want to increase your chances of capturing alien spacecraft on film (and live dangerously), befriend a group of abductees who have been kidnapped repeatedly over the years. Get their permission to set-up shop with your infrared night vision equipment and video camera.

Originally posted by Beamish
I have watched videos of UFOs filmed through IR, the NASA tapes spring to mind instantly, and was left in no doubt that there are craft (biological entities?) cruising our stratosphere at will.

In the documentary I cite in my previous post, you will find very good film footage of infrared night vision apparatus attached to a video camera - and the HUGE difference it makes in finding UFOs.

However, I have not seen any convincing evidence that there are biological entities cruising our stratosphere.

Originally posted by Beamish
All you have to do, apparently, and as long as there are craft overhead, is point a specialised camera upwards.
Is that too easy?

Relatively easy but hazardous.

Originally posted by Beamish
And what would you be looking at?
I suspect a lot of UFOs captured on infrared are of our manufacture.

It stands to reason that at least some of the cloaked craft do indeed represent US black project ships that are using reverse-engineered gravity wave propulsion systems.

Originally posted by Beamish
As to your mention of "Zetans" and "Reticulans"; this is very specific. Perhaps I missed out on reading the information on how we know some aliens are called such, or is it after their home star systems? Can you enlighten me on this?

Former governmental insiders like Retired Army Sergeant Clifford Stone and Bob Lazar, among others, have stated that they have seen briefing documents from the government that identify the aliens as stemming from the Zeta 2 Reticuli System, specifically Reticulum 4.

In the same blue-folder briefings which accurately represented the fields of study Lazar and the others at S4 were involved with, were other briefings that involved the beings, their motives and the historical involvement with this planet. A few of the briefing dealt with claims the aliens made regarding their involvement with us. Lazar emphasized that these were "simply words on paper" and even if truly documented, they could have been lies on the part of the Reticulans.

Source

This is in addition to the well-known story of Betty Hill's star map that was researched and deciphered by physicist and astronomer Marjorie Fish.

Originally posted by Beamish
I am also curious as to whether you have had any sightings.

There are a number of interesting experiences that occurred.

One of which is when I was momentarily hit with a paralysis beam that was dissipated yet reflected off of my then bedroom window and at my face. My eyes were closed and it was the brightest physical light I had ever seen. It left me slightly disoriented but fortunately not paralyzed.

Years prior to that, the intense white floodlight was used on our house. It came in through our second story bathroom window and totally illuminated the adjoining master bedroom - with complete silence in our backyard. It was much brighter than a police helicopter searchlight. The beams were avoided and no paralysis or subsequent kidnapping took place.

Be sure to upload the film record of your "hits" in ATS. Many here will love to see that.

Originally posted by Beamish
Believe me, when it happens, all information will be posted on these boards.

Be very careful when you seek to film Reticulan spacecraft and probes. The latter also have the capability of projecting paralysis beams

I once counseled a woman who was one of the many unwilling abductees. All she did was open up her front door at night to get a closer look at a UFO. She then saw what she thought was an alien on the lawn. The last thing she remembered at that point was not being able to move to walk up the stairs. She then blacked out.

Don't let that happen to you.



[edit on 9-1-2008 by Paul_Richard]

reply to post by emanresui


Hi emanresui,

OK, you have my undivided attention. The part in your post that the guy recounted to you;

'blue beings ... their feet weren't on the floor'

This is exactly like the 'being' that I encountered. Whilst it had the features of a typical Grey, it was blue and tall (approx 7ft) ... and did not touch the floor.

The other thing that resonated in that account ... and something I'd never considered before was the snow-factor. When I had my experience we'd just had one of the heaviest snowfalls since records began (in this part of the country ... with major towns/cities being cut-off).

Do you have more details about these beings ... height/texture/appearence etc. ??? I've never heard of anyone else seeing these 'Blue's before this is fantastic.

Woody



[edit on 22/10/2007 by woodwytch]

reply to post by Beamish


So I too have had lots of experiences with so called "UFO's" and "Aliens".

I too have been a skeptic, and remain so.

I know that these envcounters I have had are very similar to other experiences people have had throughout history, however they are culturally different. They are also culturally different within our own time.

For example, some people report grays who perpetrate horrible anal probes etc, yet others report kind grays who show answers to universal questions and "slide shows".

The similarity between all reports, both now, and historically show these items to be honest phenomena, however the disparity in the reports also show the experience to be a highly intepreted one. Even that which appears objectively real is more than likely intepreted.

So, that being the case, I know of people who take '___'. This drug gives its takers an experience of a elf showing up and talking to them telepathically. Could there really be an elf in these scenarios? Maybe. Is it a projection of the subconscious mind? More than likely.

So do I think we are being visited by other beings? Not necessarily. I don't know that we "aren't" either, but in my own experiences (which have been very frightening) It would be easy to say "Aliens Abducted me!" But, I've got enough evidence to show that it was a highly interpreted experience.

They could be multi-dimensional beings in the objective sense, or they could merely be projected portions of our subconscious, which would make them multi-dimensional entities in the subjective sense.

I'm convinced the experinces are real enough, I'm not convinced these are entities in any way seperate from ourselves.

As crazy as it sounds, I'd be more willing to accept these are other spiritual entities being encountered during OBE expereinces with the same amount of interpretation going on , which still puts them beyond our own ability to apprehend what is really happening.

I've had the same experience of being unable to move and seeing beings who don't touch the ground as others have, I'm just not as convinced that what I'm experiencing is as real as one might expect it to be.



[edit on 9-1-2008 by Quazga]

reply to post by woodwytch


Hello woodwytch, you & I have a lot in common with our humble beginnings and just maybe the fact we kept quiet for so long from everyone about our special circumstances is the reason we may have been chosen, maybe in the DNA. I also have had serious mental abuses being married to the wrong kind of women and they like your spouses, in turn not wanting to accept our special circumstances with this phenomenum, hell, I dont speak of my encounters to anyone especially family members & now ATSers, so I stay silent most of the time, maybe in the DNA and so we could be chosen and our UFO sightings are not by chance, who knows?.
As for your life, how did it change from your humble beginnings, mine has been an extraordinary life with so many strange events that it would take a book to really make one to believe. I also had so many strange occurances from my youth with big heads and shadow beings and strange Edgar Casce dreams that I have been left drained of my energies, by who??
Maybe ET lives for the excitement by living through us and putting us in situations just to see how we deal with our conflicts, I have had enough, which leads me to think I was chosen and to go into details now would only bring wrath against me, I think, maybe its in my DNA, do you see what I mean. Now I am experiencing a new experience and Im not sure how to deal with it, I find myself feeling as if I was used and abused and kicked to the curb by who???,maybe me saying enough is enough caused this, do you think?
Thanks Beamish for your insight as to my situation and the opening the door from my personal losses, I hope this is not the way to encounter the unknown, but then it is a way, right. I know nothing about the Reticulan theories and their bright light paralyzing beams but I do know I experienced a light that was paralyzing, maybe in the DNA, right.
Thanks for the post and I hope to hear more and just maybe we will be able to get to the truth without the help of our governments disclosing.
gwhint

Hi Beamish,

I'm also from Dublin and here's my personal (and only) sighting, you may find this interesting.

When I was about sixteen I was on a Howth Golfcourse (the 8th hole tee off on the Deer Park 9 hole to be precise, just near the tree to your left) on a warm, clear night when I looked up & flying directly over my head were a formation of approx 14 disc shaped craft, flying in a triangular formation.

On the underbelly of each disc were a pattern of three ringed lights, one ring on the outside, one inner ring and a further circle making the centre of the underbelly. These rings flashed on and off in sequence, but yet out of sequence with each other. As far as i can remember the colours were green, blue & purple.

The formation moved slowly and without sound (totally calm, clear and warm summers night) I noticed as they passed overhead they were ever so slightly bobbing or swaying from side to side.

Behind the main triangular formation were another pair of the same craft that were following the rest, these two were constantly zig-zagging in and round each other at incredible speed and agility while all the time following the main formation at the same speed (ie never overtaking or lagging behind)

I watched these craft as they moved off toward Dublin bay and heading toward Dun Laoighre or Bray. As they moved away from me they were low enough that when viewed at an angle a silver dome could be seen atop of each craft, glinting off the starlight. (this indicates the height)

They came in over the Irish sea and moved off toward Bray.

From my judgement, I would estimate each craft to be roughly the size of a 4 bedroom semi-detached house, quite big.

I was the only witness to this sighting, I can remember there being reports in the press of stange lights being seen in the skies of south Co Dublin that night. (would have been a small piece in the Evening Herald I think) and apprantly it was mentioned on a radio phone in show I was told later.

This would have been about 1996.

Everyone I tell the story to scoffs at me (unsurprisingly) although after 10 years of solidly sticking to my story one or two of my friends are starting to accept I seen "something"

One a last note, several years later I was watching a TV documentray on UFO's when during a montage of different footage a picture of the UFO's I seen popped up on screen, I nearly jumped out of my seat!!

It was taken from a side angle, disc shaped craft silver dome on top and you could see the glare from flashing green, blue & purple lights emitting from the underbelly!!

Well, there you go, I still live in Dublin but alas have not had another sighting.

Thanks for your time

Marker 3221

reply to post by Beamish


Regarding the vibrational stuff... I'm not sure how much you know of String theory, but Michio Kaku touches on it a bit at the end of this interview. While the part about String theory and the multiverse doesn't mention anything in regards to aliens or UFOs, I think it's an integral part of understanding this mystery. The idea of "tuning" in to an infinite number of "stations" really opens up some possibilities.

I also believe that by putting yourself into a waking dreamstate of sorts (trance) you can increase your chances of experiencing the paranormal. You can do this using meditational music (ie. ambient) which synchronizes your brain to beta/theta waves. During REM sleep you enter the theta state, but try and enter this state while conscious and see what happens. Many of my experiences happened when I was relaxed and my mind was clear. I wouldn't be surprised if my brain was synchronized with beta or theta waves at the time. Other experiences happened during moments of trauma.

Some people see aliens and nuts and bolts UFOs when they're children... I saw ghosts. Like I said before, I think it's all related. Even if a child has never heard of such things, they may get their archetype from a collective human unconscious, perhaps more so from the people in close proximity. My parents were more inclined to believe in spirits rather than aliens at the time. Perhaps that's why I didn't see aliens.

Alien abductions by the Greys are pretty much standard these days, but early alien abduction accounts mentioned humans, hairy bigfoot types, and insectoids more often. The insectoids are still encountered to a lesser extent but for the most part now all we hear of are the Greys. What happened to these other creatures? Also remember that older sightings of UFOs were different than they are today. They had physical windows, were almost always circular (no triangles), metallic, and were overall more believable for that time period. In more ancient times, even older fashioned looking "airships" were reported in Europe and fairies were abducting people and taking them to caves.

Now move ahead to the 21st century we have glowing morphing UFOs that can split into multiple parts with aliens that walk through walls. The Greys have been solidified in our collective mind as the abductors, leaving aside the other entities that were encountered in the past.

It's as if this phenomenon is continually changing, keeping just ahead of us and out of our reach, but always in the realm of the unexplained (relative to the time period). Since we can build our own airships and metallic UFOs, they've had to "upgrade" in order to remind us that they're not us, at least in the physical sense. Once we can fly around in glowing morphing spaceships, I wonder what their next upgrade will be?

For these reasons and more I'm inclined to put them into a non nuts & bolts category... at least for now.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective

For the longest time...I saw nothing.

Then, what seemed like after several months of this, I got my first sighting.

Exactly. Don't expect it to happen overnight. Essentially I think "they" are trying to find out if you're serious or committed. They don't want to hook anyone who isn't...now why I don't know.

This to me falls into the extreme paranormal area. You have to come to a realization, or at least an understanding that these beings and craft (in my opinion) are essentially like ghosts. They can be physical when they want to, but they don't *have to*. (Hence why we have no solid "proof", and most likely never will).

You will draw their/it's attention if you focus on them/it. You'll not immediately see them, but you may feel a sense of "doom", or an extraordinary sense of heaviness, feel as if your being watched (but more then you've ever felt it before), or start to see things out of the corner of your eye - be it flashes, stuff moving, shapes, or you might start to have odd electrical instances at your location...etc. These are the precursors that some people experience.

Keep it up, and more is coming. I guarantee you wont be prepared for what it is, nor will you want it. As I said, it's one thing to talk in the net about it, and another for it to be in front of you. Your world as you currently know it is over. Now it's changed.

Have you noticed that people who have long term contact or interaction or activity with this....tend to go off the deep end? Think thats an accident? Chance? I don't. And it's another reason I keep it at arms length.

Those that deem this to be chance: well it might be in some instances as I've said. But what if you're seeing someone else's "call"? What if the manifestation is not of your doing, but someone else's? Or, alternatively what if the enigma is simply trolling (which I think it does) for new people to experience it and become entrenched? How wierd is that?

(Of course there's still the facts of black projects and misidentification here, not all UFOs are the visitor presence. In fact none of the chance viewings may be the enigma...we just don't know)

The bottom line is there is plenty of reasons for chance sightings.

Just more stuff to consider.

reply to post by woodwytch


If you dont feel comfortable answering these publicly, you can U2U me. I'll ask these more pointedly then usual, so if they match everyone can get to see that. I'll make the statements that I think apply to you, and you tell me if I'm right-lets do it that way:

1)You are of celtic or german decent.

2)You have an above average I.Q.

3)At some point in your life, you have "fooled with" or practiced what people would deem an "occult" practice. (Right down to possibly using a Ouija board)

There's more, but I'll leave it at these 3 for now.

Thanx,
J

Originally posted by Kruel

Some people see aliens and nuts and bolts UFOs when they're children... I saw ghosts. Like I said before, I think it's all related. Even if a child has never heard of such things, they may get their archetype from a collective human unconscious, perhaps more so from the people in close proximity. My parents were more inclined to believe in spirits rather than aliens at the time. Perhaps that's why I didn't see aliens.

I believe your right. And in many ways this enigmatic presence that has been with us so long, is to me far more interesting then if this was nuts and bolts craft and biological aliens from somewhere else.

Then again, it still *could be*.

reply to post by jritzmann


Yes. Particularly the daytime sightings I have had, the craft appear to be transluscent. Like a ghost, just like you said. I have also had things scurrying about me a couple of times, very quickly. I could not see them, I could only hear them darting around.

I think these beings can manipulate atoms / matter, both of themselves, and things surrounding them (such as their craft /solid objects like walls, windows, etc.).

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
I think these beings can manipulate atoms / matter, both of themselves, and things surrounding them (such as their craft /solid objects like walls, windows, etc.).

Or consider, something a little more uncomfortable: they are altering your perceptions.

People are generally uncomfortable that these "beings" may be co-existing with us right here, right now. We just cant perceive them, except on some occasions which we've already talked about.

Oh, I definitely think that is a possibility. Maybe even a probability. My username says it all. I feel like there are multitudes of overlapping dimensional realities all around us, and perhaps within us. I have had my share of ghost interactions over the years as well (again, sought out for), and I do believe there are things all around us, that our senses just don't pick up a good deal of the time. Perhaps these beings fine tune that ability, or thin the dimensional veil that allows perception?

Ten years ago i saw a flying saucer passing by near my home town. It was a orange-red glowing surprise, but i didn't see anything else, but some kind of flying machine. As far, as i know now, they are quite simple to build and there is nothing real unusual in it-same physics, but different philosophy. They are driven by suction and not by pressure.

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reply to post by Beamish


I'm not one of those tinfoil hat wearing folks and I'm not prone to believing these over-the-top stories of being an Angel Incarnate or taken up on some spaceship. I was a die-hard skeptic of anything "Other-Worldly" in the sense of little green men (I knew there was probably bacterial life forms, ect.). But two years ago my mind suddenly was changed....

I live in a small town in North FL and it's mostly dirt roads and farms.. We're directly in the flight path of Moody Air Force Base and maybe this could have something to do with it....

One night my cousin and I were out and about and saw a bright light far off in the distance. It was behaving erratically basically hovering in one spot, making sudden drops and then righting itself. We stopped the truck to check it out for quite some time and noticed it start to slowly move horizontally across the sky. It took a jump and moved across a whole quarter of the sky in a blink of the eye and then stopped again. My cousin noticed the whole scene just as I had and now we were very interested in seeing what it was. The bright light was a white color and slowly started getting bigger, when it got closer to us I noticed the color of the light changed colors to an almost red color and then back to a blue and then back to a greenish white color. It hovered again in one spot while we watched and again it took another huge jump but this time right towards us and on top of us. The whole thing happened so fast (the last jump) that all I really remember was seeing an outline of a triangle shaped craft and my cousin was terrified so he stomped the gas and high-tailed it home while it stayed right on top of us the entire way back.

It very well could've been a military experiment but it was a UFO to us because we had no idea of what it was. When we got home we were both still visibly nervous and shaking and ran inside as fast as possible. We went in and immediately told my Aunt about what happened and she recalled a time in the same place that they had a similar thing happen to them. I remembered that she had told us about this years ago and we both laughed at her until our sides hurt, well, she got the last laugh when she saw us.

I immediately got on the computer and started doing research and looking for a place to post my experience and put it up on MUFON's site. They contacted me minutes after I posted my story and was extremely interested. They interviewed me, came to the exact place where it happened and were very excited about it. I didn't want the world to think I was nuts (frankly I thought I was nuts myself) so I never made anything else out of it.

But, my only experience with this sort of thing (and my family) has happened in one specific place. That's the only similarity I can find between the two accounts I've heard... Nothing ever happened to either of us other than the sighting which makes me believe it was a Military Experiment due to the fact we weren't "taken" away by something.

Oh well, just thought I'd share my experience with you since you were interested.

reply to post by jritzmann


Hey there,

Ok, here are my answers to your questions ... I promise to answer all of them with full honesty and if I can't give a straight answer to any that you put to me I'll let you know.

1/ Celtic/German decent ? ... my biological father was Polish (does that count ?

2/ Above average I.Q ? ... The last time I did an I.Q test it was 116 (I think that's about average isn't it ? However, I do tend to look at things outside of the box and in spite of being an experiencer and working in the paranormal sector, I have an avid interest in science (studied Natural Earth Sciences at uni), but I should add that I am not a natural academic.

3/ Interest in the occult ? ... Absolutely, I am (as the name suggests) a witch ... but not of the stereotypical type portrayed in films or those god-awful people that you see interviewed on TV from time to time (I call that 'the biggest pentagram syndrome') The reality lies in the subtlty and wonderment of nature (simple as). And don't even get me started on that egomaniac 'Aleister Crowley' ... (ok, deep breath ... appologize ... and continue) ... as for Ouija Boards ... wouldn't touch one with a barge-pole (too eratic).

Woody

Originally posted by Stalks in Shadows
But, my only experience with this sort of thing (and my family) has happened in one specific place. That's the only similarity I can find between the two accounts I've heard...

Ahh, one specific place you say? Reminds me of hauntings which are often linked with low frequency magnetic fields. More here. Only way to know for sure would be to take an EMF meter to that particular location.

Certain geographical locations may induce sightings depending on the frequency of magnetic fields in the area.

Not to say that the experience is any less real, but our ability to experience it may have something to do with the frequency generated in that location.