I've enjoyed following this topic, and the story is certainly compelling and at times riveting, though has some inconsistencies--but, at the same
time, also has some interesting consistencies which do not seem to have been noted by others here, yet.
The OP's name is a combination of Hebrew and Aramaic meaning "Son of the Father" ("Ben" and "Abba", the latter being Christ's affectionate and
impassioned cry to God moments before his temporal death at the Crucifixion, and "Ben" the common Hebrew nobiliary particle preceding a surname,
analogous to "bin" in Arabic, or "Mac"/"Mc" in Celtic communities). It is a fitting name for the topic's correspondent, and his posts stand out to me
because of the linguistic pun of sorts--as any good username should. However, Aramaic is more of a dialect itself than a language which would have its
own subordinate dialects; like Latin, it is also not truly "dead", but certainly of the vintage his Immortal requires.
The entire time I have been reading this thread, I wonder at no one mentioning Cartaphilus as a potential candidate for one of the many illustrious
identities of this Immortal--Cartaphilus is the Latinization of what folklore otherwise refers to as the name of the "Wandering Jew"--he who struck
Christ on his shoulder in protest and disgust as Christ was making his way along what is now called the Via Dolorosa in Jerusalem to Golgotha, bearing
the weight of the burden of his Cross. For this defiance, Cartaphilus is said to be doomed for such a grievous transgression to wander the World until
the Parousia, also called the Second Coming or Last Judgment. A user here early on asked Ben Abba if this Immortal has achieved such longevity not so
much as a blessing or accomplishment, but as punishment for such a sin or transgression.
It is Abraham who links the three faiths Ben Abba mentions, and Abraham is regarded in Judaism as the first Jew, and first of its canonical 55
Prophets--indeed, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are linked taxonomically and traditionally in the comparative study of religions as the "Abrahamic
Faiths", though the posts Ben Abba links to as Summaries on his site mention Methuselah as a name of convenience to respect the private identity of
his Immortal friend, while also mentioning Elijah--and Elijah has more Scriptural concurrence with reference to and by Christ than Abraham later in
There is no Scriptural congruency among the Abrahamic Faiths perfectly, and only Judaism and Christianity share five common books (the Torah in
Judaism is extrapolated as the first five books of the Holy Bible, of course, without expurgation)--Ben Abba initially said six, then three; though he
might have been implying this Immortal is mentioned in six overall, wrote only three, and so on. The Immortal's tale requires him to have numerous
identities, since the majority of the five books of the Torah/opening of the Christian Old Testament are historical books, and the individuals named
therein are ones whose identities are attested to elsewhere in the historical record--but also, aptly, are mentioned continually in the New Testament,
as well, more for the purpose of establishing parallels in salvation history, to show a continuity of God's plan over the ages--this was the
determining protocol of the Councils of Nicaea that determined the Christian Canon--its collection of books was to balance in the New Testament what
was expressed in the Old Testament--less conspiracy, moreso narrative consistency, which, for a spiritual purpose, shows a mystical consistency that
further strengthens the beliefs being extolled--rooted in trust in God's plan for all and singular. Thankfully this Immortal allegedly penned or is
mentioned in the first five books of the Bible, otherwise the further variants between the Catholic and Protestant Canons would complicate this
alleged congruency between the Abrahamic Faiths, since the Catholic Canon (the original Canon of Nicaea and subsequent Ecumenical Councils), has seven
more books not included in Protestant Scripture, and to further complicate it, the Orthodox or Eastern Rite of Catholicism has a further set of books
unique to its tradition.
However, Abraham, Jesus himself, Mary the Mother of God, and other traditionally Christian figures do appear explicitly in The Noble Qur'an, but it
has not similar books, and is indeed, constructed in an entirely different system of divisions--suras,
not books, and verses within
for instance, which follow an entirely different chronology of explicating Islamic salvation history, though there is a level of
congruency, certainly. This textual element of Ben Abba's story is what most intrigues me. This Immortal allegedly plays a crucial role, textually, in
the constating books of these holy works, and avoids the complexities of the apocryphal materials. Mind you, the books of each of these three holy
works are not placed chronologically in terms of composition, either, but Ben Abba's Immortal, if he has contributed to or has been mentioned therein,
I would like to know if this Immortal at all feels any sense of anticipation, since the surety of immortality seems to eliminate the want of anything,
any experience, any encounter. Does this Immortal look forward to anything, superficially or abstractly? It is said he fears not Death, nor
acknowledges it, so he cannot anticipate that, for instance.
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