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Hillary out? Is a possible Republican (and U.S.) nightmare over?

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posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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According to the Drudge Report, Hillary is contemplating bailing out of the presidential race rather than face the possibilty of "tarnishing the Clinton" image with double-digit losses in the next several primary elections.

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Facing a double-digit defeat in New Hampshire, a sudden collapse in national polls and an expected fund-raising drought, Senator Hillary Clinton is preparing for a tough decision: Does she get out of the race? And when?!

"She can't take multiple double-digit losses in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada," laments one top campaign insider to the DRUDGE REPORT. "If she gets too badly embarrassed, it will really harm her. She doesn't want the Clinton brand to be damaged with back-to-back-to-back defeats."

Meanwhile, Democrat hopeful John Edwards has confided to senior staff that he is staying in the race because Hillary "could soon be out."

"Her money is going to dry up," Edwards confided, a top source said Monday morning.

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Key players in Clinton's inner circle are said to be split. James Carville is urging her to fight it out through at least February and Super Tuesday, where she has a shot at thwarting Barack Obama in a big state. But others close to the former first lady now see no possible road to victory, sources claim.


If this turns out to be true, Republicans (and the rest of the U.S. although they may not understand that yet) can breathe a huge sigh of relief.


[edit on 1/7/2008 by centurion1211]



apc

posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 10:54 AM
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Every being on the planet, human and reptoid alike, should rejoice at the very notion.

Obama is still a socialist, but I trust him ten-fold over Clinton.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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Right.

No one is even sure how Hillary won her first carpetbagging senate race in New York - real example of voter fraud, anyone?

So, having her take herself out of the presidential race is the only sure way we won't see both Clintons in the White House for potentially another 8 years.

IMO the other reason for Republicans to potentially rejoice over this is that I don't feel the Obama is electable. Sure, people might like going to his rallies and even sending him money. But when they're standing at the voting machine, will they still be able to bring themselves to actually "pull the lever" for Obama. I say no.

[edit on 1/7/2008 by centurion1211]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 11:27 AM
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Wishful thinking at best, but I too would like hill and bill to drop out.
If this rumour had come from a left of centre reporter instead of a reporter from the right, I probably would put more stock in the story.
Still we can hope


Edit to add, I agree I don't see Obama becoming President.
Now don't flame me here but,,,,,,, I don't think enough of Americas public is mature enough(for a lack of a better word) to have a black, or a woman as President yet. (Imho)

We will see another Republic President I think, not that, thats a better choice.
So good luck America.


[edit on 7/1/2008 by Sauron]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 01:00 PM
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Gentlemen,

Well it seems it's all coming to a head for the Queen Mother. Here she is attempting to force out some tears because of the toll the campaign is taking on her.

Better her to be crying than me if the Queen Mother were ever put into the President's office!

abcnews.go.com...

Becker

[edit on 7-1-2008 by Becker44]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 01:36 PM
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If they were real tears and not stage tears like they use on TV and movie sets, then I say they are "crocodile tears" because she's too cold and calculating to ever shed a tear for anyone but herself.

All, please remember the fake southern/black accent she used when she was at the black church awhile back and compare that to how she noramlly speaks.

If you look up "pandering chameleon" in the dictionary, Hillary's picture is also right there.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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I don't think she is 'out', even if she is out. Obama/Clinton still has a powerful ring to it, especially if you factor in the 'nutter' types against a black President. Its not over til she is sitting at home watching the inauguration in 09/

DocMoreau

Edit to add: Alligator Tears, Dragon Tears, whatever, they can't be as bad as when she tried to laugh a while back. I hate the talking heads and their incessant squawking, but Rush and the like called her on that...

[edit on 7/1/2008 by DocMoreau]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Hey Doc,

I'd have to disagree on an Obama/Clinton ticket. I don't think she has the submissive side to play second fiddle. Leave that for Richardson .He's been running for VP from the outset.

He'll add that foreign diplomacy element Barracks so dearly lacks.

Becker

[edit on 7-1-2008 by Becker44]

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posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 02:57 PM
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Oh, I agree about Richardson running for VP all along. All I am saying, is until she is sitting home on Prom Night I am still keeping vigil... he he

I wonder how Edwards would feel about being number two again... Think he is all in or nothing? Obama just seems to have the charisma that isn't forced like Edwards, so I see that 'honesty' translating better than 400 dollar haircuts.

DocMoreau



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 03:12 PM
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I agree Doc, we'll have to wait a bit longer. Love the prom analogy.

Edwards may want the second seat but I think Barracks will look elsewhere. Heck, Edwards couldn't carry his own state for Gore. Some help he was.

In my opinion Edwards is the "other" empty pant suit.

Becker



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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Obama/Clinton? Obama/Richardson? I'm not seeing either.

I think Edwards will be the choice just as he was with Lerch. If I was Obama I'd be scared crapless, constantly looking over my shoulder, if Hillary was the VP. Of course, conspiratorially speaking, I'm not sure that's Obama's choice to make anyways.

Peace



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Becker44
reply to post by DocMoreau
 



In my opinion Edwards is the "other" empty pant suit.

Becker


If I allowed myself to "LOL" this would. Really, has anyone else noticed that Edwards is 'looking prettier' than Hillary lately. This campaign has her looking like a bag lady in some of the shots they have had on drudge.
Obama too... pretty men, and ugly women. Kucinich on the other hand, has always looked like a gnome.

DocMoreau



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 03:46 PM
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Anyone notice how Obama and Edwards seem to be the paragons of the Mutual Admiration Society lately? Falling over each other being all nicey-nice. A prelude to running 1 and 2?

Anyway, I'd hate to be Bill if Hillary drops out. She'll be unfit to live with for weeks if she doesn't win the whole tamale.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by jsobecky

Anyway, I'd hate to be Bill if Hillary drops out. She'll be unfit to live with for weeks if she doesn't win the whole tamale.


Unfit to live with??? Do they still really live together now? My guess is that their marriage would be officially over very quickly. After all, it's obvious that Hillary only kept Bill around for her presidential run. And if that's over with, I'll bet Bill is history, too. Not the he'll care.


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posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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This video of a Hillary campaign stop at Nashua, NH just in! Both funny, and also telling.

Also, don't miss the second video with Hillary's "tears".

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And it's all over the internet news sources now. Political pundits on CNN, MSNBC and the web sites for newspapers and magazines are already writing Hillary's campaign obituaries.

Voters will of course read all this and start to believe she's history, too. And that will lead many of them to decide they don't want to waste their votes on a loser.

Time to 'stick a fork' in Hillary, she's done ...



[edit on 1/7/2008 by centurion1211]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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Well once again the American right is burying its head in the sand just like they did with Iraq post Saddam. Losing one or two minor battles wont lose Hillary the war . By the time the American right pulls it head out of the sand Hillary will be being sworn in on the Bible.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:35 PM
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Well, it's not just the right that is talking...



Hillary's Camp Blames Strategist Penn

Sunday, January 6, 2008 12:46 PM

In the aftermath of Hillary Rodham Clinton's third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses, the finger of blame is being pointed at her chief strategist, Mark Penn.


According to Time magazine, critics say Penn is the embodiment of all that is wrong with Clinton's campaign: "Too cautious, too arrogant, too conventional and too clueless as to how much the political landscape has shifted since the last Clinton reign."


Advisers blame Penn for not predicting Clinton's shocking results in Iowa, even telling her victory was imminent up until the moment the caucuses began. Penn also has been faulted for assuring Clinton that she would win the female vote, although Barack Obama outdrew her in that category, 35 percent to 30 percent.


www.newsmax.com...





3 Polls Show Obama Leads by Double Digits

Sunday, January 6, 2008 8:08 PM

Three new polls released this weekend show a dramatic shift in voter sentiment for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.


www.newsmax.com...



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:36 PM
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Looked at any of the sources in the rest of this thread, or just hoping against hope that your gal pulls through?

Anyway, we'll find out Wednesday, or shortly afterwards just how damaging the NH defeat has been to Hillary's campaign.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:40 PM
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I doubt it ... she ruined any chance she ever had when she broke down in public today - Madam Supreme Ruler wannabe is finished.

Afterall, who is going to vote for a president who cant keep their emotions private?



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisF231
I doubt it ... she ruined any chance she ever had when she broke down in public today - Madam Supreme Ruler wannabe is finished.

Afterall, who is going to vote for a president who cant keep their emotions private?


Coming from Hillary, the emotional display was nothing more than the result of a clintonista once again sticking a wet finger in the air to test which way the political wind was blowing and then deciding that Hillary needed to do this to boost her pity-based polling numbers.



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