I apologize for the behavior of these people that think they know what this site gives them the right to do. It has effectively screwed up any
serious conversation as far as I am concerned.
I would not respond to the challenges they pose unless you feel it is important to explain yourself. Or close this thread off and we can go to and
make a new discussion thereby leaving this debate. Trying to help these people understand the context for this subject is like trying to teach a pack
of dogs to use a fork. Fairly useless it seems. I have used the “ignore” button here more than ever on any thread. I’ve never felt the need
so urgently until now. I recommend it.
Here is where most people miss the train of thought. (for those willing to learn)
When you are interacting with these species, remember, there are different perceptive and dimensional context that when translated to our gross
verbal, cannot be understood literally. In the same way as another languages syntax is different and can mean something completely different when
said from the syntax of another. You get the idea. Now imagine their time is not linear and not sequential like ours. Translate. You cannot here.
So don’t try. Listen to what the O.P. is saying. It may be more HOW he is saying it then WHAT he is saying. Be ready for that. Turn off your
dense filters and listen.
Now know there are maybe hundreds of species that have been here and interacted with people like this gentleman over the thousands of years we have
records for, and maybe millions of years and subsequent rises and falling of civilizations that their traces have all but dissolved over time.
Exceptions are the Pyramids and the Sphinx which is now pre dated a couple hundred thousand years before the Egyptian culture even began. (Shhhh,
this will tick off the Egyptians, but is proving to be true.) Slightly off track here.
Now know, that each of these diverse sentient beings has a different ontological context. In other words, their whole structure of personal reality is
vastly different then ours. A different perception of time, space, technology, history and a culture sometimes spanning millions of years (our
so-called civilization is only a couple to a few thousand years recoded). How will such species think, talk, love, create? You cannot know. Just
When they communicate with us we notice they have evolved many additional advanced traits. Like broadcasting energetic information from one mind to
another by either an EM field frequency, or quantum interconnected awareness, (Telepathy). We don't know, but it is there and fairly universal.
They might also use pheremonal data or nano chemicals to communicate.
They have abilities to not only modify our perceptions and memory, but manage them as well, closing off segments for reasons unique to each individual
they are working with (or on) and, some maybe global. How would such a form of communication change their context from ours? I expect much.
The technologies experiencers are exposed to are sometimes indistinguishable from mundane items. They operate and perform functions that serve
different types of perceptions we are not privy to. Like linear time groomers or artificial emotion amplifiers. Huh? But stranger than stuff like
that. Try and grasp such bizarre concepts, then explain it to a Hermit Crab. Problems?
They might “grow” their ships like we grow a gourd in our garden to make a bowl. The craft might at least have artificial life and intelligence
if not actually be a conscious being, created much like we would breed a horse a couple hundred years ago, or like growing a crystal from solution
with all the computing, sensory and control technology intact. Can you begin to see how vastly different these worlds we are interacting with are
from ours? Can we do anything but stand in awe if ever confronted with such realities?
Many ewill go nuts like on a bad acid trip where they loose their grip on the world by holding on too hard to their world description. Let go, watch,
listen, feel and stay awake.
benign.psychosis, said the craft was mining in the Kuiper Belt
That may indicate independent
autonomous functions, or other concepts for energy management capabilities. Horse sent to pasture for a while?
Many different types of energy producing technology and propulsion have been seen. This is just one, and allowing the O.P. to tell us details gives
us tons of data to discuss if we can shut up and let him describe and not have to defend every word, phrase and inflection.
Some species use time and dimensional physics to travel. This again will make them different in ways that when in their presence you will feel like a
one-celled organism at a math conference. Prepare to be blithering idiots, because we ARE to them.
We do have some unique and very beautiful abilities and can do things some of these species cannot, and maybe envy that we evolved from combinations
of genetic influences and terrestrial evolutionary paths. They know however we do not even understand most of these abilities and do not use them
sufficiently to get good at utilizing them. They want some of them however, and some are attempting to fold our genes into their own for varying
reasons, I have heard of a few.
OK, I have crapped up this thread enough trying to get some of you to hold a fork. I wanted so much to just hear the stories and the responses to
good questions many here are asking. Not the prosecution teams poisonous barbs though. Waste of our time.
This is not a court, and stoning is barbaric. We do not have to prove we are honest here. We do not have to convince you of anything. We do not
care if you are fearful of what you do not have the understanding or sense to accept. Deal with it and leave this thread to those willing to hear
someone out who has shown courage just to tell his truth as he knows it.
Please if you do not believe, leave.
If we think there is a problem we’ll let the Mod know.
Now for some conversation, but first some REM sleep to replace neurochemistry.
[edit on 1/10/2008 by ZeroGhost]