reply to post by Vojvoda
Firstly I think your claim that the Rothschilds are more powerful than the Vatican is both laughable and demonstrates your clear misunderstanding of
the power pyramid, as you call it.
The Rothschilds are Knights of Malta, and the Knights of Malta serve the Pope. This thread isn't about the Rothschilds and there is much threads
devoted to them already, mostly of which greatly exaggerate the Rothschilds position and fails to recognise their willing subordination to the Pope in
the power-structure. Rothschilds are also freemasons, which puts them under the power of the Freemason Pyramid (which leads back to the Jesuits).
Power and influence amount to the same thing, just a matter of your understanding of how much influence someone has before you term it power. For
example, to have an influence over in a countries foreign policy would suggest having a certain amount of power in the countries power pyramid.
The Czar Alexander having approached the Jesuits hoping they would assisst him before Napoleons invasion is documented in numerous books (come to
think of it I don't recall seeing it Phelps book, the last book I read on Napoleon was Zamoyski's, he mentioned it).
The reason the Jesuits weren't surpressed in Russia was because they were Orthodox and the suppression by the Pope didn't apply there. Peter the
Great had expelled the Jesuits, but Catherine the Great permitted them to stay, the reason given being that they were useful in educational
How the Jesuits went from being literally marched out of the most powerful countries in the world (and their colonies) and ordered to never to return
under pain of death, to being dramatically restored and with more powers than ever before is remarkable, and it needs a clear explanation as to how
they achieved it.
Yes the links between Nazi europe and their servility to the Vatican have been shown. It further supports the claim that they are higher up the power
pyramid than most people imagine.
I have never seen that site you posted previously. However, I could add that the theological
school in Tiflis that Stalin went to was run by Jesuit Monks
, that is widely known, and I knew that long before I ever heard of Phelps book. We
could start a seperate thread on the Jesuits in russia later. The Bolshevik revolution is a subject in itself, but if you didn't know Stalins Jesuit
connections then you don't know as much as you had imagined.
Prussia/Germany was where Lutheranism arose and was the centre of the "heretical" Protestant church. The Jesuits didn't want to restore the
"heretical" protestant nation to power again. The Jesuits were sworn to destroy the Protestant Reformation, this was one of the reasons for their
Russia was too big and geographically to inhospitable to totally control, it would have been impossible. Even reaching Moscow was a nightmare for
Napoleon, so many rivers and bogs, wastelands and supplying food to his huge army was a major difficulty in the region. Also Napoleon had to keep and
eye on France as the British and Spanish were threatening invasion, and they had to keep an eye on Prussia also. You are very much over-simplifying
everything. Napoleon couldn't just declare war and hope his country would support him, there was much diplomacy involved also. Bear in mind that the
Jesuit Order had taken haven in St. Petersburg, this is another reason why they didn't want Napoleon to destroy the city. The manipulations of the
Jesuits also had to remain completely hidden from the public.
As for Napoleon aiding the cause of the RC Church, when he was marching on the Vatican he had orders from France to destroy it, but he resisted.
[edit on 8-1-2008 by iezuit]