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Cancer is Contagious + Is Spreading !

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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 11:42 AM
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Every year at least 560000 Americans are killed by cancer even after receiving treatment from the most expensive snake oil of chemotherapy which has a 7% overall success rate.

Never miss a thing.

The cancer epidemic is sweeping America.

1 in 3 get cancer now.

1 IN 3.

You should all be very worried about this and take action.

Pressurize your corrupt Congressman to come clean.Tell the ahole he will get cancer too.Or maybe someone should put a large dose of cancer causing microbes in their food to get some action as they all seem have their heads up Big Pharma's Ahole.

Ordinary people are suffering and dying all over America because of corruption in Congress.

Professor Paul Ewald says we recognise about 20% of all human cancers are caused by infection. The other 60% who knows, but for many of them there's evidence that infectious agents are also involved.

Virginia Livingston MD, who for 40 years claimed that various bacterial and viral forms of "the cancer microbe" were responsible for the infectiousness and possible contagiosity of cancer. The establishment went to great lengths to blacklist her and got her sacked.

Can you kill people by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria? Of course! No one in their right mind would want blood from a dying cancer or AIDS patient. Can you give a person cancer? If cancer in animals can be caused by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria, it would certainly be possible to do the same with human beings!

THINK ABOUT THAT!

Test animals are GIVEN cancer by injection with viruses and bacteria !

and recently it has been shown that animal cancers ARE contagious!

www.washingtonpost.com...

" and because some of the tumor cells reside in the dogs' genital tracts, where it's a small leap from one animal to another during sex --


SO IF ANIMALS CAN BE GIVEN CANCER AND CONTRACT CANCER WHY CAN'T HUMANS GET CANCER FROM ALL THAT PROMISCOUS ORAL/ANAL AND MOUTH TO MOUTH SEX?

If animal cancers have been proved to be contagious why not human cancers too?

In the 1970s, scientists proved that animal cancer viruses were capable of causing cancer.

In reality there is a close relationship between certain forms of cancer, particularly lymphoma and leukemia. In the 1970s, virologists discovered that animal retrovirus infection (similar to the AIDS virus) could cause an increase in lymphoma and leukemia in the animals, as well as immunosuppression.

The American Cancer Society is unlikely to remind its contributors that treatment for one form of cancer can cause the formation of another "different" cancer. For instance, after chemotherapy about three percent of Hodgkin's disease patients go on to develop Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, or leukemia. Officially, the reason for these "second cancers" is unknown!

After 40 years of research and eating our money they DON'T KNOW!


More recent evidence again shows infectious agents like fungi cause cancers but mainstream media never mentions these findings.

The so called journalists are given free beer and a macdonalds to dull their tiny brains at the "presentation" and they just copy/paste/regurgitate the latest toxic wonder drug commercial from Big Pharma.

They never ask any searching questions.

They should all be fired for dereliction of duty to their profession.




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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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We had some surgeons who wanted to use a 'cell saver', a device that collects and centrifuges red blood cells to reinfuse into the patient (cutting down of need for transfusions). When it was found the surgery pt had an advanced form of prostate cancer we reminded them our leased cell saver was not an option as it would spread the cancer. I found it amazing a surgeon would not know that.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by esecallum
chemotherapy which has a 7% overall success rate.

I thought that overall chemotherapy had a better success rate than that.


Anyways ... interesting OP post. I flagged the post and would like to hear more.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by esecallum
SO IF ANIMALS CAN BE GIVEN CANCER WHY CAN'T HUMANS GET CANCER FROM ALL THAT PROMISCOUS ORAL/ANAL AND MOUTH TO MOUTH SEX?


There is nobody in science questioning where these things cause cancer.
It does not have to be promiscuity either.
Human Papiloma Virus causes cancers, its known, accepted.
Its transfered through human contact.

Not using ones testicles, cowpers, and prostate glands causes prostate inflammation and eventually cancer as well.

So the solution to fighting cancer is plenty of safe porn inspired masturbation and copious use of an herb which has, study after study, showed to decrease occurrence of cancer and shrink existing tumors.

For woman, I can only suppose plenty of breast massage keeps them healthy,
if not at least they enjoy their breasts before they get shaved off.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:35 PM
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Masturbation prevents cancer?


Good one. The entire male population should be cancer free in that case.

Every living thing can get cancer -- from animals to plants to people. It's part of life. Some viruses may be A cause of some types of cancer, but it's much more complex than that, and I'd really need to see your proof of this -- like links to the papers by the people you mention that say that viruses are THE cause of cancer.

There's always more to the story than one thing. Chemical exposure, genetics, and many other things also help to cause cancer, or at least trigger it in people who are predisposed towards it. I just had some skin cancer removed from my scalp -- from getting sunburned when i was little. So far as I know, solar radiation isn't a virus.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:39 PM
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"I just had some skin cancer removed from my scalp -- from getting sunburned when i was little. So far as I know, solar radiation isn't a virus."

Excuse me.

Ultraviolet radiation causes cancer too.

So does chemo and x rays and gamma rays and ingesting cancer causing chemicals.



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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:43 PM
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Personal attacks are against the T&C. I could report you, but it's not worth it.

So let's get back to the discussion without referring to my intelligence or theoretical lack thereof, shall we?

Your post does not talk about any other sources of cancer, but claims that cancers are contagious, and that they're caused by microorganisms of various types.

That is what I was answering. No need to get personal. Let's see the evidence you speak of but don't list, rather choosing to go with the ad hominem attack.

Misdirection and obfuscation don't remove your burden of proof. Which still has not been met.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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Careful esecallum, your thread is extremely interesting and debate on this subject could be very enlightening, don't get it or yourself locked down by questioning others intelligence.
I have a personal stake in finding out as much as I can about Cancer, as I am sure many on this board do, lets try to keep the information flowing and not drag the thread down with negative remarks.
I understand your point of view and I am not trying to "mod" you I just want the thread to stay clean so we can get as much intelligent information from as many as possible.


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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:47 PM
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"I just had some skin cancer removed from my scalp -- from getting sunburned when i was little. So far as I know, solar radiation isn't a virus."

It was not a personal attack.

Sorry for that but I was very angry at you saying that about a serious issue affecting millions.

You know very well or should know that solar radiation gives cancer to thousands and yet you make remarks like that?

why?



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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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I have here a link to the American Cancer Society's statistics (PDF file). It has info on each cancer, risks, treatment and expected 5 year survival.

www.cancer.org...


The 5-year relative survival rate for all cancers diagnosed between 1996 and 2002 is 66%, up from 51% in 1975-1977 (see page 18).

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


So with earlier diagnosis and better treatment we have people living longer. This does not relate to the topic of cancer spreading, but just some numbers.
I am not going to fight and about how cancer forms/spread/are created - virus, bacteria, genetic error, etc. But I do take exception to Chemo being 7% effective. Where did you get that statistic from and what are the parameters for it? And 1 in 4 deaths this year will be from cancer - about 560,000 people - second behind Heart Disease.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 12:58 PM
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I see, you edited out the part where you told me,

"You aren't very bright, ARE you?"

But you can't erase the fact you edited. Now your credibility is completely shot. You could at least have had the grace to say you were sorry for the personal attack and left it in.

Instead, once again, obfuscation and misdirection to make it look as though the attack wasn't said.

This thread isn't worth being in now, IMO. So, bye.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:04 PM
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This is just conjecture on my part but I think this thread is headed
to more of an attack on promiscuous sex then cancer prevention, etiology or methods of spreading the disease.

However I would like to see some research results

And I'm always open and receptive to attacks on "big Pharma"

and btw, demeaning someone's intelligence is a Personal attack, no matter how you slice it.

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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:34 PM
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On my last physical my doctor warned my to wear a tshirt when swimming after looking at a 4 centimeter freckle on my back. I used to work landscaping summers in college. I've always tanned well, but the first few outings in the sun if I overdue it I get chills and nausea. She then proceeded to tell me that in Australia 1 in 3 are getting melanomas in their lifetime due the decreased amount of ozone in those parts. Don't know if she was scaring me or not. The fact is I remember growing up in the 60's and 70's watching and smelling the filth that spewed from ford and chevys stacks, long before scrubbers. Lead wasn't removed from petrol until (the early 80's, I think). Their is still so many pcb's and other contaminants in Lake Erie the health officials recommend eating only one or two meals of lakefish a week. Especially bottom feeders like catfish. No fish for pregnant women. My belief is the envioronment is still so toxic cancers are a given. Look at the epidemiological nightmare in Canada's 'love canal'.
Of course there are some cancers wrought by contagions, such as the HPV. Just my two cow cookies. Edit: sp
I have also heard some anecdotal evidence that people living within 10 miles or so of nuclear plants report a higher rate of cancers, leukemias, brain cancers. Also recently read the workers at nuclear plants (can't remember if it was Japan or Russia) do indeed experience higher levels of cancer and they are reconsidering there maximum exposure levels. Oh, and on a sidenote, MM's intellect could run rings about 98 percent of current members, including me.

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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:45 PM
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There are many claims when it comes to the causes and treatments of cancers. I think the history of sugeries in which people had holes cut in their heads to let the "demons" out was probably just a surgery to let the cancerous growth get out or grow out. I have been lead to believe from at least one dream that this might be possible. For all we know particles from space enter into our bodies and trigger these growths as well.

My father died just about a year ago and had used cell phones from the time they were first comercially available. So much speculation. Perhaps the current melting of the poles may also release a bacteria, parasites or molds etc. that gets into our food chain. If our vegetation is effected this way than there will be mass deaths.

Time will tell but we survived before somehow, possibly because our own immune systems found a way naturally. Perhaps the simple fact that we treat our water supplies greatly contributes to these cancer rates also?

Some people are taking algae treatments etc. which was probably in our water supplies in streams. Nature finds a way. These cancers may be cyclical due to our environments.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:51 PM
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Aleon, as far as cutting into people to let the demons out. That may be true as far as I know. However, I heard a vast number of people, families etc. state that when surgery is performed if not successful often times leads to exponential growth of tumors. This is anecdotal and second person for the most part. Just my years of working at hospitals and speaking with families.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by esecallum
Every year at least 560000 Americans are killed by cancer even after receiving treatment from the most expensive snake oil of chemotherapy which has a 7% overall success rate.


I too, would like to know where you get your numbers. As a cancer survivor, I owe my continued life to chemo and radiation. I have been cancer free for almost 14 years now even though my cancer had metastisized into my lymph nodes.

My family has a high cancer rate, which makes me believe that genetics are also involved in the causes of cancer.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 02:06 PM
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OK, but it seems this comment could stand clarification.

The reason you don't use a cell saver on certain kinds of patients is that the re-infusion of the blood can spread the cancer throughout the patient's body. If it's a blood born cancer, you can cause circulating cancer cells to lodge in other organs (called metastasizing).

The software, plastic bags and other parts of the cell saver are supposedly disposable. So it wouldn't be a danger of spreading the disease to other people - who would use new, sterile tubing and disposable plastic centrifuge bowls.

Not to say there aren't medical devices in use that do not have disposable parts and are attempted to be cleaned. (that cleaning is not always thorough).

HTH.

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posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 02:32 PM
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Thanks for the clarification Badge. What you say is indeed true. Perhaps I oversimplified it. Still amazed the surgeons would not have realized it.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 02:42 PM
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Cancer is not contagious... Cancer-causing viruses may spread from person to person, but the cancer does not.



40% of cancer can be prevented (by a healthy diet, physical activity and not using tobacco).

Tobacco use is the single largest preventable cause of cancer in the world. Tobacco use causes cancer of the lung, throat, mouth, pancreas, bladder, stomach, liver, kidney and other types; Environmental tobacco smoke (passive smoking) causes lung cancer.

One-fifth of cancers worldwide are due to chronic infections, mainly from hepatitis B viruses HBV (causing liver), human papilloma viruses HPV (causing cervix), Helicobacter pylori (causing stomach), schistosomes (causing bladder), the liver fluke (bile duct) and human immunodeficiency virus HIV (Kaposi sarcoma and lymphomas).
WHO

we all get Cancer from:

- being lazy as hell... weakening our immune defence system
- eating food filled with unnatural poisen chemistry
- smoking tobacco with all kinds of nice "kill me" stuff in them
- breathing toxic air filled with the good emission stuff like nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide and particulate matter of other good sorts.
- Ultraviolet radiation
- chronic infections
-Cancer-causing viruses (witch can spread)


A test that shows 1 single colony of cancer being contagious among dogs is not nearly enough evidence for cancer being contagious at all.


Because Sticker's sarcoma is usually not fatal -- and because some of the tumor cells reside in the dogs' genital tracts, where it's a small leap from one animal to another during sex -- today's worldwide distribution of Sticker's tumors represents a single colony of cancer cells, the new research concludes.


washingtonpost.com


when I see evidence of Cancer spreading from human to human, I will believe that particularly colony of cancer can spread, nothing more.

IMO this is Post is Fear spreading more than cancer spreading news.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 03:05 PM
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Yeah, I think this post is just over-exaggerating things we all already know about cancer. I do believe that there is a reason for the rise in cancer over the years, but it also relates to the fact that people were dying of cancer and we didn't know the cause because of our lack of medical knowledge.

It has to do with the way we live our lives. Get off your butt, eat naturally, reduce stress, and avoid poisons.. Thats how to stop cancer dead in its tracks.. But that, sadly, will never happen and probably increase in coming years.



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