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Originally posted by andre18
Can you please show me one example of how a 'Biblical prophecy' has come true......just one......
Dan 8:20 – 26: The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
Originally posted by andre18
how is god loving….and such terms as loving us if it is giving us the choice of hell……that’s like you parents saying…..we love you and if you do what we say you can have and experience all these great things……but if you disobey us…we’re going to send you to jail for ever……
Originally posted by andre18
There is no proof that Christianity is true
...or that Jesus Christ actually existed.
Originally posted by andre18
You know what I’ll do…..I’ll let you in on a little secret…. a little knowledge…
Your idea of god from the bible right….heaven, hell, angels, demons and all….that is one of many concepts of god throughout religion….just one….there are also many branches of Christianly: the catholic church, Mormonism, KKK, etc….. some thing like 33,000 there are also up to an excessive 1,000,000 different religions in the entire world
Originally posted by andre18
There is no proof that Christianity is true, or that Jesus Christ actually existed.
Originally posted by andre18
You know I feel like the only atheist on this site…..I need some back up……
Originally posted by andre18
yeah I could smash these people with my own logic…..
Originally posted by andre18
you’re saying hardly anyone is going to hell……tell that to mainstream priests….both catholic and Christian.
Universalism is a religion and theology that generally holds all persons and creatures are related to God or the divine and will be reconciled to God.
Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Originally posted by andre18
why should I believe in your god in the first place…..what’s the point in believing in Jesus in that case?
Originally posted by andre18
Those unfortunate enough not to go to heaven when they die according to you and will find themselves writhing in conscious pain for all eternity, burning in the lake of fire.
Originally posted by andre18
You all have different ideas about heaven, Your not even quite certain what will happen when you get there
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Originally posted by andre18
According to you, god created billions upon billions of galaxies and trillions upon trillions of stars, even though most of which cannot be seen by the naked eye, the majority of your gods creations are too far away for any man to see in person, most of the known universe just wasted space which doesn’t effect out planet or our lives in the slightest degree…but according to you it was created just for us none the less.
Originally posted by andre18
The majority of humanity believe in a supreme being….how ever…believing a god exists is not sufficient…..in fact….serving a god is not sufficient either….man kind has worshipped thousands of deities throughout history…some gods have resembled people….others animals….still others are a mixture of the two, it seems gods can take any form imaginable
Originally posted by andre18
no matter how they may try to please it and no matter how honorable of a life they live…your almighty, all true, all merciful god will show them no merci on judgment day…
Originally posted by andre18
I don’t think I’m going to get any real reasoning out of you
Originally posted by andre18
millions of Jews will live their life serving the right god, only to find themselves burning forever the lake of fire (or die straight away) god created for the devil and its angles.
Originally posted by andre18
God so loved the world that it caused itself to be born of a virgin in the form if Jesus Christ and then suffered for the sins of man kind…like may mythical characters before him….by offering himself as a human sacrifice ( to himself ? ), the god of Abraham succeeded in convincing himself to forgive the sins of those who believe the story…anyone who does not believe god needed to punish itself in order to forgive you…will pay the price for their own sins
The all powerful, all merciful god will hold you responsible for every tiny thing you have ever done wrong…and will justly torture you in hell for ever…unless you accept Jesus Christ as your heavenly scapegoat and allow him to be tortured in your place.
Originally posted by andre18
So….let me understand this…..even though they believe in your god ( more like you believe in their god )……they’re still going to hell…..hmmmmmm think about every single person on this planet who doesn’t believe in either your god, Jesus, or does but has something more to add to it ( Mormonism, KKK etc……that’s 6 billion people on the entire planet…..and you’re telling me hardly anyone is going to hell.
Originally posted by andre18
I’m sorry but all Christianity is, is a system of control…..
Originally posted by andre18
if there was a god……I don’t think it would send people it took time to create to hell.
Originally posted by andre18your probably the kind of person that defends bible camp…..
Originally posted by andre18
What is Sin?....sin is what the church describes as anything that is against god’s will.
Did God make Sin? no…….we did…..as in….the church did.
Originally posted by andre18
you think a all merciful god is going to send people to hell for someone's preferred sexual orientation.
Originally posted by andre18
this is why there are so many damn religious nut jobs are in jail…
Originally posted by andre18
god doesn’t exist.
when God fulfilled the covenant that he made with them, and they in turn rejected it.
This was evident in the writings of Flavius Josephus’s,
as the mist of God left the Holy of Holies in the Temple Mount, and moved to the Mount of Olives, then rested on the camp of the Romans right before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.
God getting fed up with his chosen peoples rejection of him
links please….
that God would send the Messiah to them, is a frequently requiring theme in the Old Testament……
again links
As a matter of fact the Apostles were instructed that they were only to convert Jews to Christianity for three years after the death of Christ. After three years, the Sanhedrin Stoned Stephen to death, and that was Gods final straw with them being his chosen people
.so god is racist now is it……..lol…….then why did it create us….if it purposely created them as its I guess you could say ( prize creation )
his chosen people………
.this sounds just like the normal Christianity I know and despise…….If I’m not a born again Christian completely believing in God and Jesus and without adding anything else to the story….I really will according to your faith…..be punish…simple as that….
if you don’t do this or that, then you are punished…
tell that to Christian priests who have told me I’m going to hell for my own personal beliefs…..
they go there of their own accord……
And your probably some teenager who thinks its cool to be anti-Christian…
has formed an opinion based on very little fact……
Young folks think that its cool to hold an opinion…
…true wisdom….
Its anything that falls short of the perfection of God…
.please explain further….
Adultery and fornication are both sins no matter if its with a person of the same sex or one of the opposite sex….
Most of the religious people who are in jail become religious after they go to jail…
So why did you even bother to make this thread to begin with?
Matthew 27:50-54 (NIV)
(52) The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.
Source
In the biblical narrative, following the death the sky is "darkened for 3 hours," from the sixth to the ninth hour (noon to mid-afternoon), but if this claim concerns anything more than a local phenomenon, it is backed up by no Roman historian.
Source
There is no record (and no graveyard) of the "slaughter of the innocents" (where all male babies were supposedly killed by Herod)... no Jewish/Greek/Roman record (they might cover up one source but not multiple ones.)
No Jewish records of damage to the temple (veil being rent, etc) during that time.
Originally posted by Fett Pinkus
Then how about the sky darking:
In the biblical narrative, following the death the sky is "darkened for 3 hours," from the sixth to the ninth hour (noon to mid-afternoon), but if this claim concerns anything more than a local phenomenon, it is backed up by no Roman historian.
There is no record (and no graveyard) of the "slaughter of the innocents" (where all male babies were supposedly killed by Herod)... no Jewish/Greek/Roman record (they might cover up one source but not multiple ones.