posted on Jul, 7 2008 @ 09:58 AM
The spectrum of psychopathy is light years wide. All behavioral traits are varied to an extent as unique as the individual. If you are looking at the
spectrum in the sense that at one end is Ghandi and Mother Theresa and at the other is Hitler and Dahmer, then somewhere in between is an invisible
line. Depending on how far one is on either side on either side of that line would determine to what degree they are or are not psychopathic.
With regard to the conspiracy aspect, yes, there can be. Obviously, Columbine. Obviously the DC shooters. Obviously Jim Jones and the Dividians, Skull
and Bones. But I don't think those are the rule. It takes an enabler (willing victims) to allow them to become what their natural impulses direct
them to do. And when I say direct them, I mean that their impulses are more powerfull than their self control, thus the detriment to society.
The hard part to understand is why do they do this?
I've had a bit of experience in dealing with psychopaths (and the scars to prove it), and what I've come to believe is that their sense of "joy"
is derived from a combination of destruction (physical, emotional, psychological, social) and ultimate control over a "love-object" (power, greed,
emotional control, sadism, etc.). These things are simultaneous and utterly diametricly opposed. That's why it is so confusing to people who have
normal cognitive function. It's like watching someone cut off their hand with a smile on their face. A normal person would be revolted and shocked,
whereas the PP would derive a little sadistic enjoyment from watching the reaction of a normal person (I use the term normal, although there is no
An aspect of conspiracy would require the PP to be self-aware. In cases where they are, then yes, a conspiracy can take place on any level. However, a
non self-aware PP (which is most common) is likely to wander from imulse to impulse with no real direction. Why? Because they don't know wt(f) they
are doing. How can you have an agenda when all you are doing is chasing your impulses? You can't get from A to B that way. A PP can only derive
pleasure from immediate impulse reactions. That's why their crimes are often not thought out and hairbrained. Impulse driven.
I've heard it said that psychopathy is as much Charlie Manson as it is Luciele Ball. I've witnessed it enough to know this is true.
And then you have to consider how far over the line are they? If they are at the extreme of C Manson, then absolutely a conspiracy is not only
possible, but likely. But then, if one has only sociopathic tendencies (the most dangerous in my opinion) and appear normal and are able to hide their
impulses and natural desires, then a conspiracy is likely to be only one or two, but never more than this. Why? Because control and secrecy are the
only way a PP can manipulate their environment. It is when the secrets get out and the subversive contol is discovered that the PP is "outed" and
(presumably) punished. Unfortunately the world is full of enablers who don't understand this and perpetuate the pattern in finitum.
The most astonishing aspect of this sick cycle is that the PP will sadisticly enjoy the pain that they cause. Just as one may feel joy at nurturing
and helping, a PP will relish the opposite.
Great thread. Sorry for rambling.