Thinking for Yourself is Now a Crime--must read for ATS'ers, page 4
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reply posted on 7-1-2008 @ 09:00 AM by Fugfrank
reply to post by Xtrozero


I don't know about it being misused. I don't see how it can be misused, as a matter of fact. They give a broad, general statement about what they're after, then allow the bill to be used for:

any other uses determined by the Secretary to be necessary to prevent radicalization and homegrown terrorism


It seems written so that, if it passes, any use is acceptable.


reply posted on 7-1-2008 @ 03:07 PM by dawnstar
Originally posted by Damocles
reply to post by dawnstar


but thats not really a great comparison is it? i mean hitlers team went out of their way to first vilify the jews to the point that the mainstream population were all for what was going on, or at least complacent enough to not raise a stink about it.



umm...let's see, smokers, welfare recipients, liberals, those "sub-primers" out there, the uninsured....
the smokers are being used as the scapegoats, in hopes that it will confuse the masses long enough so that they don't look too closely at the labels of the crap they buy and figure out just how much toxins are in them....
the welfare recipients, the poor, the homeless, ect.....there's been so much rhetoric through the past few decades trying to get the rest of us to see them as just lazy and unproductive....they're scapegoats also.
the liberals, will gee, think through the past few years. the sub-primers, soon to be the scapegoat for what could possibly be the worse economic collaspe in history. and the uninsured.....those who just don't carry the insurance and thus drive the cost of healthcare up for all of us...

people do strange things when their pressed into a corner, so, yes, I can see this happening if things got too bad. But, I don't see how this bill on it's own would hasten it too quickly. sounds more like funding for some study on the issue, followed by a few social programs designed to make those that feel our society alienates them more accepted. just another neat new way to blow our taxmoney on useless crap in other words....

but, ya, I've seen something quite similar to the nazi concentration camps coming at us for awhile...since childhood really..but don't ask me to explain. but, for the past few decades, I've been watching the peices fall into place..


reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 07:53 AM by palehorse23
reply to post by kyred


Hey there kyred. I am in the middle of a research project on ATS about the concentration camps. There are google earth photos and my team members are also taking photos from other areas around the country. Keep an eye out for updates.


reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 09:57 PM by dk3000
reply to post by WraothAscendant


I am right here with you Wrath! I seriously pity the fed that knocks on my door!



reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 07:58 AM by palehorse23
reply to post by Amaxium


Thanks Amaxium. Appreciate your help. Taking another trip this weekend and finishing up research. Will have final report next week. Just some advice, keep posting and remember, this is for everyone, always think for yourself. We have to spread the word of the things this regime is trying to do to the great people of the US.


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 12:22 PM by mid summer set us free
reply to post by palehorse23


moment of truth. Jesus gave the parable of the fig tree. The fig is a summer fruit and that fruit is wisdom. The fruit is hidden under the leaves and the fig tree is in its early stages. People are waking up. Wisdom is showing herself to all that will raise her garment. this is the year. The beast has already set up one of his enormous bronze statues titled saviour of the world in the amazon jungle. Everyone that watches American IDOL are already worshipping the image of the beast. All of today's reality shows are the voice of Rome in her gladiator days when the people decided in the blood games of the arenas. This is the 7th year after 911 july is the 7 month and casini on the 7th day. casino royale 777 lucky number slevin. The bears in golden compass \ great bear or magnificent 7. this message was removed as soon as i posted it . I must be right. Boeing 777 the 77 bombings buiding 7 flight 77 into the pentagon. There going to hit all 50 first dates or states at 6 am. These people think we're sleep


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 01:09 PM by Amaxium
Originally posted by mid summer set us free
reply to post by palehorse23


The beast has already set up one of his enormous bronze statues titled saviour of the world in the amazon jungle.


Where exactly is this supposed statue you are referring to?

Originally posted by mid summer set us free
reply to post by palehorse23

Everyone that watches American IDOL are already worshipping the image of the beast.


What image are you referencing? Since you refernce 2 things specifically, you should have no problem providing photographic evidence of this. I am a believer, but you make a large claim regarding "the beast."


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 02:58 PM by palehorse23
reply to post by Amaxium


I too am interested in the "beast" reference. Please elaborate if possible.


reply posted on 9-1-2008 @ 03:06 PM by ReelView
Some things I find interesting about this ----
1. It is a good example of pure "Federalism". It is about establishing a pseudo authority coming from the "Fed", "Central", "Fascist", "Totalitarian", big Government, Big Business Interest. It is about creating a dynastic kind of authority entrusted to the "Feds".
2. Right up front it talks about "contracting out" work to meet the needs of the "Commission". Needless to say, and brutality and subjugation will be delegated the contractors in order to deflect responsibility for abuse and accountability away from the commission itself.
3. It will create a University, pseudo authority, for what will be the justifications because it will "Scientific", "Learned", "Intellectual".
4. It is yet another example of the second class, weak part of the government (The Federal Part), projecting itself as "needed", "critical", "important", "justified" by following one of the few paths the feds have, ie. "National Security". Just as the Feds facilitate "War" because "War" is one of the few authorities they also have and that makes them needed and important.
5. In all likelihood the constitution is being stretched again with the idea that such authority over citizens in individual states has been granted to the second class, central government. The real, real, failure of this if the citizens failing to hold their local state government accountable if they fail to resist such fabricated federalist authority.
6. If you look at Harmon's web site you see the image of a meek, mild mannered, patriotic, country, state, city, neighborhood loving individual. Who also happens to be senior member of the homeland security committee. She has the appearance of a track record of confronting the government on Iraq and protecting babies from evil toys.
Anyway, just a few interesting observations.
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