Debunking retiredafb - The apollo 20 hoax and the STS 107 tapes, page 2
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reply posted on 7-3-2008 @ 07:45 PM by Bspiracy
I have contacted this moonwalker guy and asked for an interview.
this is our correspondence.

Original Message To:
Do you have more?
Are you friend of retiredafb?

-Reply-
no i'm sorry but i've never met Rutldege sine here at NASA we were kept devided one each other.I was an USAF pilot too and i was the commander of Apollo 19
I'm very sorry but i try to put online what i can and answer to your question s much as i can.i have been the CMDR of Apollo 19 so since my freind Rutledge revealed the truth i'm doing the same because i think now people must konw the truth about everything.If you have to answer please ask i'd be glad to answer you:-)-
q:

Could I ask you a good deal more questions in a sort of "interview"? I am a member of the site AboveTopSecret.com and if it's discussed there, it will quickly circulate. So if I asked you questions, the answers would be intelligently debated.
a:
Yes i'm ready to answer to your questions and have the interview you proposed.

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There you have it.
I sent him another email asking is there anything on TOP of what I am going to ask I should focus on as well.

So is there anything here someone wants to ask the guy as well? I'm going to focus on why the heck anyone should believe him if his videos are proven fake. From there we'll see as I'm going to remain unbiased to see what comes out. .

His videos are a bit interesting. One video is the one retiredafb put up and his speech pattern is the same.

b


reply posted on 15-4-2008 @ 09:07 AM by TXRabbit
Originally posted by Bspiracy
I have contacted this moonwalker guy and asked for an interview.
this is our correspondence.

Original Message To:
Do you have more?
Are you friend of retiredafb?

-Reply-
no i'm sorry but i've never met Rutldege sine here at NASA we were kept devided one each other.I was an USAF pilot too and i was the commander of Apollo 19
I'm very sorry but i try to put online what i can and answer to your question s much as i can.i have been the CMDR of Apollo 19 so since my freind Rutledge revealed the truth i'm doing the same because i think now people must konw the truth about everything.If you have to answer please ask i'd be glad to answer you:-)-
q:

Could I ask you a good deal more questions in a sort of "interview"? I am a member of the site AboveTopSecret.com and if it's discussed there, it will quickly circulate. So if I asked you questions, the answers would be intelligently debated.
a:
Yes i'm ready to answer to your questions and have the interview you proposed.

------
There you have it.
I sent him another email asking is there anything on TOP of what I am going to ask I should focus on as well.

So is there anything here someone wants to ask the guy as well? I'm going to focus on why the heck anyone should believe him if his videos are proven fake. From there we'll see as I'm going to remain unbiased to see what comes out. .

His videos are a bit interesting. One video is the one retiredafb put up and his speech pattern is the same.

b


That's great that you found the mission commander for Apollo 20. If you continue to have correspondence, can you please ask him the following question?

What date, time and location did the mission launch from earth


Thanks


reply posted on 15-4-2008 @ 09:47 AM by ignorant_ape
reply to post by Bspiracy



hey - well done for running down the leads ,

BUT

my hackles are raised by this :

Are you friend of retiredafb? ...........-Reply- ...no i'm sorry but i've never met Rutldege
]

then :

so since my freind Rutledge revealed the


maybee i am just too cynical - but i see a breakdown in internal consistancy within 80 words

now i realise that meeting is not a pre requisite of freindship - but if i wrote that i would have said :

Are you friend of retiredafb? ...........-Reply- ... yes , although i'm sorry but i've never met Rutldege
]

then :

so since my friend Rutledge revealed the


the changes are bolded - and yes its pedantic - but i expect an astronaut to spel friend correctly - yes i know i have made the same mis spelling in my opening paragraph - but i hold astronauts who were selected from hundreds of throusands of applicants ffor thier education and intelligence among other qualities to a higher standard

just look @ the qualifications and education levels of aldrin , armstrong etc from thier bio`s

and on another note :

sine here at NASA we were kept devided one each other.I was an USAF pilot too and i was the commander of Apollo 19
I'm very sorry but i try to put online what i can and answer to your question s much as i can.i have been the CMDR of Apollo 19


firstly - why were they seperated ? it makes almost zero sense - all previous astronauts had constant contact -

its far harder to train 2 teams seperatly than a joint program - they learn from each others mistakes if together - and assost each other

as i said all previous space programs - mercury , gemini , appollo - had common personel - and benefited from the prior experience oth the previous personell

compartmentalisation leads to re-invention of the wheel - repeatedly

PS - the ` compartmentalism for secrecy ` argument does not hold water either - they were all professionals with the highest security clearences - now slack jawed yokels .

if any one wants to persue this - do it at your peril - because compartmentalisation has to be total you cannot use the same suit fitters , trainers , technicians etc etc - compartmentalisation has to be complete

also - most of the astronauts knew each other from previous USAF , USN and USMC duties - they were already the cream of the crop before they entered the space program .

and finally - look how many times he tells us that he was the apollo 19 commander - needless repetition of such basic details is a pretty standard warning sign to suspect a person is lying


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 04:52 AM by SpookyVince
The commander of Apollo 19 would be Fred Haise, according to NASA, if the mission hadn't be cancelled. Apollo 20 would have been Charles Conrad.

One thing tickles me though...

the most amazing footage he released so far is the presumed flyover of an ancient alien spaceship found on the backside of the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew

See
this link.

So, I checked a few things about Apollo 15. The landing site on the moon was at 26° 7' 55.99'' N, 3° 38' 1.90'' E. This is not close to the coords mentioned in that lunar spaceship video, however, Apollo 15 orbited 4 times the moon before landing. It is then possible that the Apollo 15 mission found that ship.

This could explain the position of NASA towards the future of the Apollo programme: they were somehow commited to continue, but revealing the actual reasons of the future missions was surely not good, and hiding it was difficult. They just then officially stopped the Apollo programme after the 17.

What the 3 next missions brought had to remain a total secret of course...

Ironically, this reminds me of this famous quote: "those babies are huge sir"...


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:39 PM by SpookyVince
reply to post by kidflash2008



The F-117 flew from late 1978 to early 1991 secretly. It was revealed because of Irak act I.
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