Australian Secrets/Conspiracies

reply to post by JDN24


count me in aus is the best place for secrets and secret govs.
the outback alone is massive and you could hide heaps of top secret crap


Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi

[edit on 28-1-2008 by Jezza]

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Hey Jezza, thanks for the post. I agree, we have such a huge outback, where the government can do almost anything undisturbed. Who knows what is out there. Maybe a huge base inside Ayres Rock lol

I would also love to have an Australian forum on ATS, and with the news of 1 Million unique visitors to ATS i'd be interested (and happily suprised) in how many come from the Land Down Under

Heres a small pet conspiracy theory of mine I thought id throw in here for you guys to debate your thoughts on -

Who here thinks that the Australian Liberal Party threw the election?

Now, Im not a supporter of Johnny Howard, I'll be honest and have always been a labour supporter thou I do have some reservations about them aswell. (the lesser of the 2 evils as the saying goes), but regardless,

who thinks it is funny/wierd in that before the elction, how hard Costello was trying to stir trouble within his own party to get the leadership, but once the liberals lost and it was there on a plate waiting for him, he deserted the party and took off for a corporate job?

You would have thought he'd stick it out as opposition leader would you not?

I think that the liberals had inside information, probably just before the election, that the world economy would be heading downhill and that the interest rates would be going up, and they couldnt stand to live with them being in a leadership position with rates going up when they've criticized labour for so long about how rates would be higher under them.

Who else here thinks liberals "threw" the election?

Seeming as the Murdoch press really decides the election outcome (imo), I'm personally more inclined to think John Howard saw the cues and 'rolled over' rather than 'threw' the election (subtle difference). Take your pick on the agenda, but the people really needed a break from Howard's neocon ideology, so we got a socialist holiday for 4 years. Turnbull will be handed the reigns next time around I'm fairly sure.

[edit on 30-1-2008 by Shar_Chi]

I'd be interested in an australian forum

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I agree with you about Turnbull getting the reigns next time round. Brendon Nelson is opposition leader only temporarily until bout 2 to 1.5 years before the next election when they'll be a leadership challenge.

Hey everybody!

I don't know about an Australian conspiracy forum, but I would like to see an Australian political forum. There's plenty of Australians on ATS/PTS and our politics can impact the rest of the world.

Concerning Australian secrets/conspiracies, does anyone know anything about the Australian Yowie? I've heard lots of eye witness accounts, some of them pretty creepy. Apparently there's been a lot of sightings in NSW/Victoria near the blue mountains.

I was advised in an off hand conversation with a friend that the Aussies have developed a true stealth fighter that leaves no signature, can become "invisible" to the human eye, uses a new liquid based processor unlike anything currently available. It is self aware. Learned to take off by itself, was trained by a top fighter pilot and is equipped with a range of weaponry similar to the metal storm miltary systems.

Supposedly it's being trailed in Afghanistan currently. Could be total bunk but at least by putting this out someone out there might fess up or supply more info.

The person supplying this information was joking about the fact the United States are not up to speed on this technology , that most Americans would not belive that another country might have developed something beyond their current technology.

Personally I have posted this just to see if anyone out there in Australia can verify this or back it up. I'm not making these claims but I found them interesting and if Australia is testing a craft like this in Afghanistan It would be cool to know more.

If there was such a craft it would most likely be developed in conjunction with the US and/or the UK (possibly near Pine gap/Woomera). Obviously metal storm originated in Australia and I'm pretty sure Australia was the first country (ahead of Russia) to develop a radar capable of detecting US stealth planes.

As for invisibility and self aware AI, Australia is actually much further advanced in the fields of nanotechnology and quantum physics than the average Joe would realise (or the government makes official). One example of advanced tech being developed in Australia is quantum entanglement (links below). Three products of this technology are:

Quantum computers, capable of exponentially faster processing than modern computers. Allows the development of advanced AI, current tech utilises liquid state nuclear magnetic resonance.

Quantum cryptography, guarantees secure communication. Can be used to safely communicate with and remotely control aircraft..

Quantum teleportation, allows transmission of a quantum state to a different location. Used to create cloaking fields and holographic images (among other things).

news.bbc.co.uk...
www.physorg.com...
www.abc.net.au...
www.uq.edu.au...
www.abc.net.au...

[edit on 31-1-2008 by Cthulwho]

If anyone wants to discuss UFO sightings I'm happy to share what I've seen. I don't believe what I've seen is evidence of alien life, but more likely evidence of super advanced military craft.

Oh, and I'd like to vote for the Australian Forum too, if I may!

I'm gonna cast my vote for an Aussie Forum. Hell, if CANADA can have one www.abovepolitics.com...

I promise you if we get us a forum, we'll ditch the monarchy! Besides, everyone's planning to run here anyway when the hammer comes down...

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Answerman, could you please share your sightings of UFO's?

I think UFO's usually hang around governement/satelite comm centres, because we have all heard of UFO sightings around Pine Gap, but i actually saw some odd things in the sky above the Telstra Communication Centre here in Perth.

I live out in the Landsdale area, and was driving home about 4:30pm, when i saw these odd shape objects in the sky, right above the Telstra Comm Centre.

I nearly ran up the back of somebody's car too . Should have been focusing on the road lol.

The forum is a great idea but perhaps in the meantime we can undermine the status quo and at least,
like the well posted melbourne militia did, (good read by the way!)
just post here any aussie thread links you can find or have posted yourself. Then with at least all the info in one place we can demonstrate our enthusiasm and relevence, maybe forceing our way into our own space.

I just noticed chissler shut down discussion about the Aussie forum request over in BBQ. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Combined with some of the other goings on around ATS since it started wearing a suite, this is the sort of activity that will eventually spur Aussies to set-up a local alternative board. In all honesty it's long overdue anyway, sometimes bigger ain't better.

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Yea, i was so dissapointed . The mod shut it down a few weeks back
Anyway, im not so sure what do about creating a "Australian Forum". Im not sure what kind of impact it would have.

I was thinking if we have a "Australian Forum" every other member on ATS from a different country would probably want one for there country so like previous posts from this thread, maybe we can just post new/current/old Australian conspiricies in this thread?

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How is everybody? Good? Lets Begin

I was recently surfing the web, when i came across this interesting read:

AUSSIE ACTIVISTS OCCUPY TOP SECRET PINE GAP US SPY BASE – First To Ever Face Draconian Charges

The top secret US spy base at Pine Gap, near Alice Springs, is not only America’s most important intelligence gathering base outside the US itself, it is one of America’s most important military bases full stop. It plays an absolutely critical role in all US wars, including those being waged in Afghanistan and Iraq today. When President Reagan ordered the assassination of Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi, in 1986, the planes which bombed his palace (killing one of his children) were guided by information from Pine Gap. If the US ever wages a nuclear war, Pine Gap will play a central role in that too. It has been designated as part of America’s unproven Star Wars missile programme to intercept and destroy, in space, incoming nuclear missiles. Through The Fences & Onto The Roof - None of that deterred a small band of veteran Christian peace activists. In December 2005 they made that huge journey, openly stating that they were going to enter Pine Gap and carry out a citizens’ inspection. What’s more, they did exactly that. Here is what happened, in the words of Jim Dowling, from Christians Against All Terrorism:

Read the full story here: Aussie Activists

Hmm Interesting dont you think? Could be a load of Cr@p, otherwise if true - good on them

Yeah it's going to be hard to have multiple topics discussed within one thread though.

I guess another option is to have a single stickied reference thread with links to Aussie related threads in the OP, and general discussion in the rest of the thread. This thread may well suite that purpose if we clean it up a bit and get it stickied somewhere. In the long term though I think a separate forum is absolutely warranted (and only a matter of time), whether here on ATS or elsewhere.

There are a bunch of conspiracy forums out there already, some based here in Oz, but we would want quality contributions and a logical format to posting etc. I've split off from major forums in the past with great success, but that sort of commitment is something I cant personally make atm.

Also, I work in video and the idea of contributing well-researched field investigation podcasts has been on my mind for a long time indeed, but the right stars need to align first. I'm sure there's many others with similar thoughts, inc doghead who seems to have already produced some conspiracy-oriented docos of some description.

ps careful... they might hear us


oh yeah and iirc those activists got let off with a wrist slap.

[edit on 5-2-2008 by Shar_Chi]

How would one go about researching who is behind the flouride push in Queensland? Why now all of a sudden without any debate or consultation?


Has anyone looked into this and come across sources?


The reason my suspicious were raised was because it was stealth mission and I read we are importing the flouride from China. Its really hard to get real information about this.

I suspect the queensland fluoride issue has more to do with catching up with the rest of the country than anything else.

My family moved from SA to QLD in the 90's. When a dentist checked my teeth (and my siblings teeth) he remarked "you must be from interstate, you have no fillings or cavities!".

People in QLD seem to have far more fillings - so it certainly reinforces the suggestion that it helps your teeth.

If you don't want to drink fluoridated water, install a rain water tank or buy bottled water instead.

Well Queensland being the sugar capital of OZ and all... would almost expect more tooth problems anyhow. I'd certainly opt out of fluoride if I was given an option. Besides, iirc it only helps teeth when applied topically, not ingested... It's disgusting what is put on people without consent. Personal rainwater tanks are the way to go, but come with their own set of problems.

I think the most current conspiracy us Aussies need to worry about it financial situation this country is in. The last government knew it was going to go pear shaped and bailed.