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Originally posted by zerbot565
well you dont have to read it if you dont want
probobly just as reliable as fox or smh or NY times ,
Originally posted by GT100FV
30 individuals out of countless hundreds of thousands
Originally posted by GT100FV
B-Iraq has a government. The US is working with that government and the Iraqi military/police. I'm sorry, but the insurgent as freedom fighter isn't gonna fly. They are criminal thugs desperately trying to hold onto power, influence, and relevance, in a Post Saddam world, and trying to make sure that democracy is unsuccessful.
Originally posted by v01i0
Above is an example of same type scenario which took place with Iraq occupation. First Saddam was blamed of having MWD's, then he was accused of harbouring terrorist, then he was accused of killing innocent civilians and when the "justifications" all came to proven wrong
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
I read what you were saying, your random anti-American propoganda is preventing you from actually knowing what has happened recently.
You do know what happened in Kuwait, don't you?
1990 August - Iraq invades and then annexes Kuwait. The emir and cabinet flee to Saudi Arabia.
1991 January - Iraq fails to comply with a UN resolution ordering it to pull out. A US-led and UN-backed bombing aerial campaign begins in Kuwait and Iraq. By late February allied forces reach Kuwait City. Iraqi forces torch oil wells as they pull out
In 1991, the country was the scene of a massive US-led international military campaign to oust Iraqi forces, which had invaded the year before. Operation Desert Storm saw their eventual removal, but Kuwait's infrastructure was left in bad shape and had to be rebuilt. Oil exports stopped for a time.
Higher rates of mortality evident among Kuwaiti civilians who remained in Kuwait during occupation...
...The State of Kuwait's initial public health claims had been based largely on a preliminary analysis of trends in mortality and morbidity (as measured by hospital admissions) which suggested that morbidity and mortality rates among Kuwaitis had risen after the invasion and had remained elevated for several years.
Although most of the collection looted from Kuwait's National Museum
has been recovered, almost all the jewellery, Islamic art and other
works taken from wealthy Kuwaitis by the Iraqis during the six-month
occupation has vanished. Only a few pieces have surfaced on the
international art market, and none of it was found in Iraq after the
war in 2003.
Originally posted by v01i0
Iraq government is not quite popular amongst it people. Insurgents are no less criminals than allied occupation forces. In fact, I believe they have more justification to fight than allied do.
But what comes into being soldier, I believe that every military man is a sort of madman, as they have established themselves with a system of violence and killing. Every man joining military knows he might have to kill and he is willing to take that chance. There are absolutely no justifications of taking up arms and go killing "enemies".
I hope that this time you will actually read what I'm saying, instead of spreading that random pro-american propaganda of yours.
Conflicting Reports Over Death Of U.S. Soldiers
Report Suggests Abuse Of Iraqi Civilians May Have Led To Deaths
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. -- There are new allegations about why an Iraqi soldier killed two U.S. soldiers in Iraq, including Sgt. Benjamin Portell of Bakersfield.
Several Internet reports have stated that the reason the Iraqi soldier turned on his American counterparts was because one of the soldiers was allegedly beating a pregnant woman near the northern city of Mosul. ABC-turnto23.com
Investigation under way after Iraqi soldier shoots two U.S. troops in Mosul
In a statement released Saturday night, an anti-American Sunni group identified the Iraqi soldier as Qaisar Saadi al-Jubory and said he shot the Americans after their unit refused to stop beating a pregnant woman. Dallas news
Military denies rumor about soldier's death
Last Updated: Monday, Jan 7 2008 10:09 PM
Military officials in Iraq and the United States are denying a rumor that an Iraqi serviceman who killed two soldiers, including one from Bakersfield, fired shots because their unit beat a pregnant woman.
The Bakersfield Californian
The commander of the Iraqi army's 2nd Division, Brigadier-General Mutaa al-Khazraji, told Reuters the U.S. soldiers were killed during a joint patrol in Hermat in western Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad.
The patrol "was attacked by gunmen and the soldier abused the situation and killed the two soldiers. The soldier was an insurgent infiltrator," Khazraji said.
Originally posted by lee anoma
I don't want to keep reading through a lot of back-and-forth swipes and personal opinions so I'll just ask this in an attempt to stay on topic:
Any new information?
Originally posted by jerico65
The Marine murdered a fellow Marine. You mean to tell me in the US, civilians don't murder other civilians???
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
This is the only source? Some blog?
I find this highly questionable and not believable at all. Maybe Caesar is lying.
Pure propaganda, at best!
Where are the English sources, as I cant read Arabic.
I cant even find ANY LEGIT new stories about 3 American soldiers who were shot dead by an Iraqi carrying a gun.
And bloodthirsty soldiers? That is insulting to this military wife and a lie.
[edit on 5-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]