Originally posted by GT100FV
30 individuals out of countless hundreds of thousands
Taking you seriously, you seem fail to understand that all these "bad apples" that were in Abu Ghraib, which I listed earlier in this topic, were in
same unit. They were all in same unit! Don't you understand? They are not some single cases around the military, but whole team of lunatics and
perverts. If there would have been only few individuals in Abu Ghraib that took part in dehumanization and torture, it would be OK to say that there
were only few "bad apples".
Do you really believe, that these kind events surface in public every time they take place in reality? I don't think so, and I don't actually mind
if you do. If all of the team/unit/whatever are all brutes, how do you think that things will come to light? No one in such teams will never tell
anything, that they know were over boundary of humane behaviour, to their superiors unless they know that they superior is same type.
Originally posted by GT100FV
B-Iraq has a government. The US is working with that government and the Iraqi military/police. I'm sorry, but the insurgent as freedom fighter
isn't gonna fly. They are criminal thugs desperately trying to hold onto power, influence, and relevance, in a Post Saddam world, and trying to make
sure that democracy is unsuccessful.
Iraq government is not quite popular amongst it people. Insurgents are no less criminals than allied occupation forces. In fact, I believe they have
more justification to fight than allied do.
You know, about the legality of the occupation: What if you were interrogating a criminal suspected of murder, and here's how it goes:
Police(you): So where were you as the murder took place?
Criminal: Umm, I was with my wife at home.
Police: No, you weren't, you were seen at the scene.
Criminal: Eh, maybe I took a jog, yes I was jogging, didn't recall it first.
Police: You were saw leaving by a car yet you tell us you were jogging?
Criminal: Umm, yes I came there with a car, took a jog, and left with a car.
Above is an example of same type scenario which took place with Iraq occupation. First Saddam was blamed of having MWD's, then he was accused of
harbouring terrorist, then he was accused of killing innocent civilians and when the "justifications" all came to proven wrong, there wasn't
anything else left that Allied brought up liberty and freedom, but instead of that, they managed to create chaos and misery. To me, they appear as
guilty as is the criminal in preceding example.
But what comes into being soldier, I believe that every military man is a sort of madman, as they have established themselves with a system of
violence and killing. Every man joining military knows he might have to kill and he is willing to take that chance. There are absolutely no
justifications of taking up arms and go killing "enemies".
I hope that this time you will actually read what I'm saying, instead of spreading that random pro-american propaganda of yours.