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A letter from a Norwegian politician (2012)

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 01:10 AM

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Project Camelot (Norway)

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Hellmutt
reply to post by Frontkjemper

Maybe you'll need to go to Svalbard?

Ive been to svalbard many times, and even in the mines. My brother in law are the security officer in the Norwegian coal mines. And this is still BS to me ..

This is the cutter, that cuts the coal layer away. It has been in discovery ( extreme machines )

The images are free to use if credited .. ( tep200377 )

[edit on 5-1-2008 by tep200377]

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 03:32 AM
Is it just me, or does the written narrative read exactly like 'Anonymous' - famed for the Serpo saga???

Now, I've been a supporter of Project Camelot and forgave Bill Ryan for pushing / promoting Serpo - but is this a case of a disinformation specialist once again trying to taint their reputation (which has been gaining momentum) with a bunch of nonsense, posing as a Norwegian politician? What do you think?

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 03:32 AM

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 04:21 AM
Not that I subscribe to Planet X theory but if there was a celestial body of any appreciable mass (could be a small black hole too) that passed 'near' enough the Earth it would effect our orbit - and ANY change to the Earth would be catastrophic to say the least. Any one little deviation in how we circle the sun would render this planet inhabitable in a real hurry. Look at the drastic difference in climate simply from the change in season due to a small tilt on our own axis.

These stories of secret bases with ultra advanced technologies and rail systems connecting them are garbage. Look into the logistics of one single base, what it takes to make it and keep it running. Sorry, as exciting as the idea is it is all nonsense. Yes the goverments have secure underground facilities but they are extremely limited in scope and only good for mere handfuls of people. They certainly didn't hide building them, either - you don't just magically dig one out and equip it without it being obvious what is going on.

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 04:30 AM
I have been reading this thread and wanted to add my two bits as well.
I truly believe that the book of revelatons is the true guide for what is coming in the future, I don't know how to post a link, but there is a video on you tube that shows Vladimere Putin (spelling, sorry!) visiting elementary school kids dressed as the pope, telling the kids to pray to him. This whole time we have been argueing about China, the most christian nation (by numbers, not percentage) in the world, when really, we are about to see Russia launch WW3. Remember the Gog Megog war? the king from the north who attacks Isreal? Putin has a youth corp like Hiler did, for goodness sake!
The President of the EU will helpp all of the world to recover from Putins attack. (remember who is helping the Iranans now.) He is the anti christ.( the EU pres, not Putin) All of you are right!!!!!!
Every conspiracy, skull and bones, Masons, The Catolic Church, Putin, 9/11, The underground bases and the secret concentration camps! The Star wars program, Moon bases, Life on mars, Planet X, (Not colliding you crazies!)Every conspiracy has a little bit of truth, and some more than others! but they are tied togeher, not seperate!
My Dad always told me, if someting was broke, to take it apart, clean all the pieces, and put it back together. If it still didn't work, which was rarely, he said you should take a step back and look at the whole picture. You might find out that the thing was just unplugged!
My point is, take a step out of the literal, and realize that maybe its called a prophecy for a reason! That maybe no matter what happens, it was all a part of the plan. Does that mean that the chices we make as individuals do not matter? ( as in predestination)
Of course it matters! Again, step out side the box! We can all feel it! Someting is brewing, and I'm not talking to you skeptics. If you are reading this, and you have an open mind, traipse about this site, and do your own research. Lastly, as you lay in bed tonight, think about how deep down, in your heart, you know that what matters most is not what lies ahead for your flesh, but your spirit. Whether you are agnostic, jewish, muslim, or christian, you know that that is what truly needs your attention right now.
P.S. It doesn't matter if its 2012, or 2112, it will come to pass.

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 06:53 AM
If this is what can be done for civilian purposes, just imagine what the military could do.

SNOLAB is an underground science laboratory situated two km below the surface in the Vale/Inco Creighton Mine located near Sudbury Ontario Canada.

Snolab Canada

Diagram of the proposed Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory at Homestake Mine, Lead, SD. Artist's rendition by Zina Deretsky.

Wikipedia Link

Deep Science Link

And some interesting tunnels in Japan.

Kanda River intake link

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 07:29 AM
reply to post by Hellmutt

Sorry, but you're wrong here. Minister status doesn't automatically make their english skills any better. And to become a minister, their english skills are not tested first. In some cases, their english skills are really bad. Sad but true

Point taken, and agreed

Still, if this was to get out in the media it would be political suicide. Norwegian tabloid newspapers would have a feast off this, and the recent polls concidered, it just doesn`t make sence to me why anyone would take the risk of exposure.
But on the other hand.. Could be a political "dying" ministers "revenge"... Anyhow, I`ll need pictures, names and such to be convinced.

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 07:57 AM
The rats are the first to flee the sinking ship... where as the slaves must first free them selves from there chains first. Only there are no chains only an invisible leash we call society. Its a fascinating story I give it that much "BUT" everyone’s got one or two or... hell they build a career out of it and sell books about them. They might as well Title it "the coming of Galactus" Shish!

Why oh Why should there be any kind of continuation of human kind and of all the people in the world the worst ones to. I guess those people must be afraid of dieing or have something to live for, I wonder what it is. I'm sure they'd end up killing one another anyways or become food for the reptilians down there.

Ok don't get me wrong I don't want to die 4 years from now; hell I haven't even lived yet.
Its like before being born waiting in line to go on the ride of my life, only to find out that once I got on it strapped in and placed in the launch position and then to see that I’m not going to see the ride to the end but derail just shortly after it started. I want my money back. Smoke and mirrors kiddies.

Well I don’t know what to make of this. I’ll start digging when I see something the size of the sun in the night/day sky. Is this before or after ww3/ Jesus returns-judgment day/ aliens attack/bird flu pandemic???? I just don’t know what to get ready for.

Yeah give me one more thing to keep me up at night…… EISHH!!!!!!!!!!

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 09:08 AM
Here are some videos from the seed vault ..
No mumbo jumbo here

Ensuring that the genetic diversity of the world’s food crops is preserved for future generations is an important contribution toward reduction of hunger and poverty in developing countries. This is where the greatest plant diversity originates and where the need for food security and the further development of agriculture is most urgent.

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault, which is currently being established in the permafrost in the mountains of Svalbard, is designed to store duplicates of seeds from seed collections from around the globe. Many of these collections from developing countries are in developing countries. If seeds are lost, e.g. as a result of natural disasters, war or simply a lack of resources, the seed collections may be reestablished using seeds from Svalbard.

Global Seed Vault ( Ministry of agriculture and food NOR )

[edit on 5-1-2008 by tep200377]

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 09:38 AM

Originally posted by tep200377
Here are some videos from the seed vault ..
No mumbo jumbo here

And none here either.

"Doomsday Seed Vault" in the Arctic
Bill Gates, Rockefeller and the GMO giants know something we don’t

by F. William Engdahl

Global research Link

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 01:52 PM
Maybe the source is not a he but a she? Maybe Gerd-Liv Valla is the source? I know, she's not a minister. But she used to be the leader of of the Norwegian Confederation of Trade Unions (LO) before she was forced to resign. She claims there was a conspiracy against her, and that she was back-stabbed by Stoltenberg and the rest of the elite. She is very bitter and has also threatened to reveal secrets to the public, whatever they might be. I'm not sure if she ever met with Bhutto, but it's not unlikely as she has met with many other interesting international figures in politics.

Left: Gerd-Liv Valla - Right: Jens Stoltenberg

edit to add: She used to be the Norwegian Minister of Justice and the Police

[edit on 2008/1/5 by Hellmutt]

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Smokersroom
Please don't buy into this stuff, for your own sake. Even if it was true, which it most certainly isn't, there's nothing you can do...

Yes there is something you can do for you own sake. Become more spiritual. And I don't mean religiously.

It's the only way to get through it all and whatever may lie ahead.

Peace & Love

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Hellmutt
Maybe the source is not a he but a she? Maybe Gerd-Liv Valla

I dont think so!

Poor English, have met Bhutto, naive?, me thinkes there's 2 candidates.

One male hot dog eating person, and one female former Blitz babe

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 02:23 PM
Planet X passed Earth in 2003 causing a polar reversal and the death of billions of people. I'm amazed people have forgotten it so quickly ....

Meanwhile Planet X mk2 is due to hit Earth in 2012 - but as it's about 1400ft wide and made of rubber, so it's not considered any cause for alarm.

As for a seed vault. Assuming no imminent apocalypse, can anyone give me a valid reason for not setting up a seed vault? It's called common sense and being ready for the unexpected.

I guess no-one has candles in their house in case of a power cut?

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 03:09 PM
It's to the point now that I don't even care what happens. Just SOMETHING happen already, because I'm sick and tired of being surrounded by idiots who act like humanity is invincible.

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Freaky_Animal

One male hot dog eating person, and one female former Blitz babe

Hmmm, who would that be? Any names?

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 05:28 PM
Let's sum this up...

A letter from some person claiming to be a Norwegian minister with a lot of wild claims, and no way for us to confirm the identity of the sender. Project Camelot assures us they have done their research and can confirm this persons identity, but if these are the same people bringing us the Serpo scam their credibility is zero in my eyes... There's no way for us to tell if this letter ever existed, let alone who sent it.

A bunch of crazy theories, noen of which can be proven, all bundled together as if this somehow makes them all true. Does adding a bunch of lies together make one big truth???

" I assure you 100% that things will happen."

Oh well, when you put it that way, how can I not believe you? After all you are an anonymous source with no proof to your claims and you are supporting theories that most people find crazy. Yeah, I think I'll take your word for it...

"My proof that what I am saying is true is in the photographs I have sent of myself and all the Prime Ministers and ministers I tend to meet and am acquainted with. They know all of this, but they don’t want to alarm the people or create mass panic."

So if I send you a picture of some ministers claiming that one of them is me, that proves that whatever crap I tell you is the truth?

"The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds."

Gee, I wish I had that amazing ability... To just look at people and read their minds. This really supports your theory!

"Remember that those who are going to be in and around the city areas in 2012 are those that are going to be hit first and die first."

If this Planet-X thing hits Earth, how would people living in cities be the first to die? A planet collision would most likely wipe out all life, wheter in cities or not, right? Or is this Planet-X gonna split up into multiple bodies and target only the major cities?

Do I need to say anything more? This is complete BS...

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 06:45 PM

Originally posted by euclid

Originally posted by CaptGizmo
There is another thread about this very subject now...oh well I'll just post the same thing here now.......

oh this is such a load of you know what. First off, if a planet was going to crash into the could build all the underground bunkers you want,because it wont help you survive.

You have no idea what you are talking about.... no where is it implied that this planet will collide with earth. It, or one of it's satellites, will pass close to earth. The result will be what is referred to as a geographic pole shift. This type of pole shift has happened in the past... there is geological evidence of it.

If it occurs there will be survivors. Some will be those people who work for governments.... others will be like me.... I know where to go and what to do and am fully prepared for this or any other catestrophic scenario; natural or manmade.

I am looking forward to it and any other global catestrophy. I hope it happens so people like you can cease to exist.


[edit on 5-1-2008 by euclid]

Wow,I guess you must be smarter than everyone else with your
knowledge of future events.I actually believe in the pole shift that is due to happen,and just for your information. I just don't believe in the planet-x sorry this has upset you.
Some how I doubt you would survive if such an event were to occur. Since your lack of knowledge of how to spell catastrophic and man made is two words not one. So I feel pretty confident your toast.bu-bye

[edit on 5-1-2008 by CaptGizmo]

[edit on 5-1-2008 by CaptGizmo]

posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 07:04 PM

Originally posted by CaptGizmo
So I feel pretty confident your toast.bu-bye

Well if you want to play the 'bad spelling' game, it's actually you're. I get so sick of seeing that particular mistake on message boards, and mentioned it on my 'Spelling Standards on ATS Need Improvement' thread.

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