Being those who advocated an anti-war stance and still do and are not over there fighting and doing....this will be insignificant to them and will likely be recieved with disgust, uncontrolled and somewhat controlled outbursts of inflammatory remarks, and supposed obvious truth(s) of military mind control, brainwashing, and propaganda of what soldiers say and do, and undoubtedly be followed and echoed by the reasoning of "it" doesn't justify the "how and why" GWB administration dragged the US and an "unwilling but made to be willing" coalition into the Iraqi quagmire, and then, quite possibly, they may have no comment at all?.......


regards
seekerof

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No way does this justify the war. There are other countries in the world with evil dictators but the Americans do not go to war with them either because they are too strong or have no oil. Have you Americans found any WMD ? Of course not, and if you do it will be set up.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by ragingsystem]

......pre-emptive striking out da wazoooooo!

Theneo: Sure, a soldier's opinion. Good God....do you know how much worse things would be if they were'nt given that opinion to think!?
I have always been against these diversions in the ME, but who the hell wants our troops thinking? Hell, I don't even want them online for anything but IM'ing family.

yeah, unfortunatly people who arn't here don't get the big picture. I won't say that I was 100% for the war but I'm already here, so...... I can see progress in this country everyday. But the media doesn't focus on that, instead they only report every attack and bombing. It's a shame. The Iraqi people, for the most part, are really happy about us being here, and saddam being gone. Obviously some aren't, as the bombings and such show. I mean we had 3 rifle fired grenades launched at us tonight. But that doesn't mean everyone here hates us. We are rebuilding the Iraqi army, and ALL of those guys love it. I have now served on 2 missions with them and they are great people to work with. So in the end people can say what they want, show me whatever links, do whatever, but nothing is gonna change what I hear from the Iraqis on a daily basis. And no amount of "proof" is gonna deny that.

Bout time you have posted, by far, the most idiotic thing I've ever read. I am a soldier here, in Iraq, and I take offense to all of what you just said. Really cold man. If you feel so strongly on your opinion, you should voice it to some soldiers back home. I'm sure they would love to hear your stupidity in person.

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I feel that America could have relied on secret services to help out Iraq, not a full blown war. The SAS could have assinated Saddam but that would be bad for the Americans as then they could not go into Iraq itself and take over the country like they are now. Its all about the oil.

Where is Saddam these days anyway?

I have no Idea.. you know it's ok when you wanna bust on bush or the war, but leave the soldiers out because we have no say in what goes on. I won't have people talking smack about soldiers. That goes to far.

The soldiers have no say because if they did they would all say how horrible and wrong this war is. Oh but the American goverment cant have this, they only show people who say how great and justifying this war is.

first off, I wasn't attacking you, rage, second, a majority of the soldiers here are for the war, because until you've seen first hand Iraq before we came and Iraq afterwards, you really have no idea. I mean where do you get you info? The media, the media, and.........the media. The war may not HAVE(past tense) BEEN justified, but here and now(present tense) things are for the better.

I admit that the Iraqi people might feel safer without Saddam, but now they have to look round every street corner to see if someone is not hiding with a bomb up there shirt. Your goverment has made Iraq an unstable country.

So it was stable before saddam was removed huh? right.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by medic]

Originally posted by medic
Bout time you have posted, by far, the most idiotic thing I've ever read. I am a soldier here, in Iraq, and I take offense to all of what you just said. Really cold man. If you feel so strongly on your opinion, you should voice it to some soldiers back home. I'm sure they would love to hear your stupidity in person.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by medic]

Write it down, copy it into your diary or whatever vessel that you can refer to when you're in your mid 30's ( I'm guessing you're what? 22, 23? ), or when you've lived away from the military for over a decade.....you'll have a different perspective.
Read the officer's quote at the end of the article.

Iraq was alot more stable in the past until the Americans came in. As i said, secret services could have done a far better job !

Nice reply Bout Time, so one LT says that. I've been in the army longer than most LTs. And I didn't post about that in the first place, I posted about your nice comment about the military. You know, the majority of people who say this kinda # were never in the military, and are generally at home right now in thier comfy house, where surprisingly enough, it's easy to make these remarks, without fear of having to explain them or back them up in any intelligent way. Cause I mean if you get all flustered you can just turn your computer off, and walk away. Imagine that. Pretty convient when you don't have answer for your stupid comments. Save you're self the time and embarrassment and just don't post on this thread anymore.

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one word.....BRAINWASHED

Rage, do your home work. Iraq was anything but stable before we came in. Do alittle reseach on it. Brianwashed? Typical reply for a twelve year old or some one who has no idea what they are talking about, and can't think of anything to say. By the way you just proved Seekerof right. LOL.....typical...ya'll just keep repeating the same things....shame you all can't think for your selves.

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by medic]

BT commented:
"Seek: You are the epitome of the GOP Du Jour

......pre-emptive striking out da wazoooooo! "


BT. Thank you sir. You know I try my best at times to be "pre-emptive". Doesn't always work as I would like it to at times, but yes, I do try anyhow.
As to what I mentioned, I suppose I would be batting .500? Even got a posted: "BRAINWASHED".



regards
seekerof

[Edited on 10-2-2004 by Seekerof]