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Couple banned for life from shopping centre and branded 'terrorists' - for taking photos

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posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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So the world is a better and safer place after 9/11?
Disgusting.
This is what our world has become?


(DailyMail)-A couple were banned for life from a shopping centre - because they were taking photos of their beloved grandchildren.
Kim and Trevor Sparshott were ordered to stop taking photos because they were causing a security threat.
They were thrown out of the centre after they took out a camera to snap the look on the youngsters' faces when they turned up unexpectedly.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Full story here
www.dailymail.co.uk...

[edit on 2-1-2008 by Black_Fox]




posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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Looks like someone got a taste of the little Hitler syndrome.

We see it anywhere where these low lifes get a minimum wage job with the slightest hint of power, ie security guards or stewards at football matches.



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Flyer
Looks like someone got a taste of the little Hitler syndrome.


Pretty much hit the nail on the head. The security guard got on a power trip, and banned the couple instead of merely letting them know what the mall rules were.

I'm glad to see his boss was more level headed and removed the ban on the couple.

As for the rule itself, it's nothing unusual. There's public places in the states where such rules were in effect long before 9/11.



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 08:57 PM
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Security Guards always seem to power trip. Is it the uniform? I know of at least 3 malls that I'm supposed t be banned for life from, for the stupidest reason. This is even years ago in Canada.

One example is that me and 4 friends just happened to run into a few other groups of friends in the center of a mall here in London, and there ended up being about 16 of us I think, completely random. Security was there in like a minute demanding we all leave. Well pleasantries were exchanged, and we were all "banned for life" Hah, kinda funny when I look back on it. A little of topic sure, but I'm just trying to demonstrate that mall security tend to go a little overboard so this is most likely an isolated incident and not an indication of draconian hitleresque ploicing.

I won't even mention the overreaction to the London City Mall drum tour...



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Flyer
Looks like someone got a taste of the little Hitler syndrome.

We see it anywhere where these low lifes get a minimum wage job with the slightest hint of power, ie security guards or stewards at football matches.


You mean like the ones that aren't smart or fit enough to join the police force? Those guys are just bitter and take it out on everyone



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Crazy stuff. I went on a cruise once and the boat was docked so i got off and started snapping pictures of the boat. Moments later i was approached by cruise security being asked for my cruise ship card and my ID. I showed them my cruise card and my ID and everything was fine but i thought it was kind of strange. Anyways, just thought I would share.



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 09:55 PM
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even here in Montreal
went to a shopping mall and took pictures of my woman near x-mas decorations

security guard told me i can't take photos here
then we walked away towards the other end of the mall
i took out my camera again and another security guard said hey you were already warned you cannot take pictures here, so the first security guard must have walky talkied all the guards in the entire mall...smh

they immediately escorted us out



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 10:11 PM
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Can't take pictures in the mall, but you can walk in with some automatic weapons and gun a few people down, happens every year here in the states.

Thank god for security, the most horrible thing I can think of is someone snaps a picture of me just before I'm gunned down and I can't go to heaven because the camera stole my soul!



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

You mean like the ones that aren't smart or fit enough to join the police force? Those guys are just bitter and take it out on everyone


To be fair, police officers sometimes have power trips, too.

Security guards and cops don't just flex their power because they are losers who want to use their power to make themselves feel adquate. Many of these people are not intelligent. They only understand simple, bright line rules.

These people do not understand that rules have underlying rationales and that it is improper to enforce a rule in a way that is inconsistent with the underlying rationale of the rule. They also do not understand that when it is improper to enforce a rule an exception to the rule exists.

They also do not understand that rules often conflict with other rules or other interests. They do not understand exceptions to a rule can exist when a rule conflicts with another rule or violates some other interest.

In the case at hand, the rule was made to thwart terrorists. Grandparents taking snapshots of their grandchildren are clearly not terrorists, so it would be inappropriate to apply the rule to the grandparents. The mall has an interest in keeping their good customers happy. Treating the grandparents like terrorists undermines that interest.

The above analysis seems pretty obvious to the average vertebrate, but many cops and security guards are not so wise.



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:47 PM
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As for the rule itself, it's nothing unusual. There's public places in the states where such rules were in effect long before 9/11.



This is in fact, true. Back in my teens/early 20s when I was working retail in malls (way before 9/11), it was common rule you couldnt just go around taking pictures in the mall. Especially around the indoor playground.

I also agree that this security guard went way overboard.

I know the malls I worked at, the guards would just politely tell the people that it was against mall rules to take pictures.

[edit on 3-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 09:01 PM
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The rule about photos in malls has nothing to do with safety or security. It is about copyright infringement and industry espoinage. The stores don't want people spying on them, their merchandising, sales techniques etc.

I have worked in malls, and also was a guard at a huge printing facility. The printing facility would print flyers for stores, obviously in advance of the actual sales. Competitors would actually send people to try to get the information in those flyers.

Even in the supermarket, next weeks flyers are kept locked up when they arrive. So that people won't wait until next week to buy a product that is going to be on sale.



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