posted by Justin Oldham
In the modern context, radicalism will result in home-grown terrorism that will be exploited by our leaders. In the same way that Federal officials
“fail” to act decisively against terrorism abroad, they’ll fall short here at home until they’ve achieved all the power there is to have.
Then, and only then, will they crack down just hard enough to suppress what they’ll call “fanatical opposition” here at home.
I warn everyone here about TWO unmentioned but super-important issues.
1) ALL volunteer Armed Forces. The men and women in our Armed Force are already or could be constantly subjected to pro-government propaganda, and
are vulnerable to being co-opted by being informed on matters not circulated to the general public. Making them “insiders” privy to knowledge
held by only a few.
To who do you believe they owe primary loyalty, to the people who sign their paychecks and hold their economic future in their hands? Or to
some far off document that none of them have read and many cannot spell?
2) Urban warfare. All and I say again, ALL our Armed Forces are now highly trained and practiced in URBAN warfare. They are much better now then a
few years ago, as this story will exemplify.
On December 4, 1969, tactical unit of the Cook County, Illinois State's Attorney's Office, in conjunction with the Chicago Police Department
and the Federal Bureau of Investigation MURDERED Mark Clark and Fred Hampton, and wounded others. Hampton's body was dragged into the doorway of the
bedroom and left in a pool of blood. The officers then directed their gunfire towards the remaining Panthers, who were hiding in another bedroom. They
were wounded, then beaten and dragged into the street, where they were arrested on charges of aggravated assault and the attempted murder of the
officers. The Panthers had fired one shotgun blast as the door was broken in. All the other 43 holes in the apartment were put there by police
At a press conference the next day, the police announced the arrest team had been attacked by the "violent" and "extremely vicious" Panthers and
had defended themselves accordingly. In a second press conference on December 8, the assault team was praised for their "remarkable restraint,"
"bravery," and "professional discipline" in not killing all the Panthers present. en.wikipedia.org...
Or, how far is it from Baghdad and Fallujah to Cleveland and Little Rock?
In their day, the leaders of the Soviet Union didn’t totally eliminate political opposition. They pushed just hard enough to keep the
opposition in check. They kept the radicals in play so that there would always be an enemy for the loyalist people to fear. Partially defeated
terrorism amounts to job security for the 21st century political party that can maintain majorities in the House and the Senate. Don’t mistake this
for anarchism. It’s too premeditated to be random. No society survives that kind of polarization without paying an extreme price.
I am not exactly calling you to task Mr J/O, on your perception on the USSR and its homegrown opposition, but it was my impression that Stalin did not
tolerate even potential opposition. Neither was Lavrenty Beria ever mistaken for a nice guy. Nor did anyone ever book into the Lubyanka prison
thinking it to be the Moscow Hilton.
As for your pertinent remarks on “partially defeated” terrorism, I dispute this hokum called the War on Terror is a valid response to the Nine
Eleven Event. I see it as a political sham and extreme opportunism invented on September 12, 2001, to secure the ‘04 election for Bush43 who had
already shown he was in way over his head. I’m sure (as I can be) that by 2 PM on THAT day, Bush Sr called Bush Jr and said “Son, if you’ll kick
every ass on the planet, your re-election is assured.” And the rest is history. I pray the WoT can be ended January 20, 2009.
OK, so I’m not much into prayer, I’m sort of like the fellow Voltaire quoted, “Oh God, if there be one, Save my soul, if I have one.”
As for the House and Senate, there is only ONE solution. CFR!
Our first civil war was fought for a combination of economic and political reasons. Our next internal conflict will also be fought for
economic and political reasons. The integrity of the Union will be at stake, too. There will be one vital difference. The outcome won’t affect
“some” us. It’ll affect “all” of us. Federal supremacy might very well become the new slavery.
“Federal supremacy might very well become the new slavery.” This sentiment reminds me more of John C. Calhoun that a 21st century author.
I say that not meant to be harsh, but because I see the strong Federal government as the ONLY way to A) avoid the calamity or B) to come out of it
WHOLE. As I see it, we are still fighting the Civil War - officially labeled the War of the Rebellion - and as I have lamented elsewhere, the Union
won the war but the Rebels have won the peace. At least up to now. Believe you me, if I were king for day, I’d restore Reconstruction until those
people - whites in the 11 Old South states - did like the Austrian emperor who walked across the Alps to Rome on his bloody knees.
We can’t stop this radicalization from over taking us, but we can prevent our leaders from exploiting it if and only if we can insist on
responsibility and civic accountability to such an extent that the social considerations become an acknowledged political factor that our leaders
can’t ignore. They will serve us, or we will serve them.
Accountability? Huff! No one above the rank of corporal is ever held accountable. Recall the Japanese CEO after a plane crash, committed hara-kari?
That’s ACCOUNTABILITY. Over here, at worse, they get a multi-million dollar golden parachute. Accountability? That's a JOKE! It only served as a
diversion tactic. Yes, I’d like to see public officials held accountable, but I will not live that long.
Perhaps we’ll see another In 1789, Revolution was brewing in France. The traditional monarchy was in trouble. Running out of money, Louis XVI called
a meeting of the French Parliament (the "Estates-General") to consider a tax raise. [He had bankrupted France by making many loans to America.]
On June 21, however, the Estates-General declared itself a National Assembly, and the French Revolution was underway. On July 14, a Paris mob stormed
the Bastille, and on August 28, the new French Republic issued the Declaration of Human and Citizen Rights. On August 10, 1792, a Paris mob overran
the royal family's residence, massacring the Swiss Guard that protected the royal family. Soon afterward the revolutionaries overthrew the monarchy
and guillotined Louis XVI, proclaiming a French Republic on September 25, 1792. From Wikipedia.
North Vietnam ran re-education or re-indoctrination camps for the South Vietnamese who had made all the wrong choices. After all, you don’t want
them to keep making bad choices. They need to LEARN what are good choices and what are bad choices. Group good, self bad, and etc.
[edit on 1/28/2008 by donwhite]