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reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 03:09 PM by stumason
reply to post by TheExaminer



Thats all well and good, but this is a Sea gull. Or have marine birds suddenly taken to cloaking themselves now?


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 03:18 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by TheExaminer



Some digital cameras can see infra-red light, but they do not show an object that only reflects infra-red light like it shows an object reflecting visible light, and for not being visible the object must only reflect infra-red light.

Also, the best way of not seeing things when we take photos is not paying attention to common things, like birds.


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 04:12 PM by spec_ops_wannabe
reply to post by skibtz



I have a feeling the "big one" will literally be big. Although that could just be my imagination running wild.
I think when the time comes, it will be worldwide with no sense of lingering doubt, except from the occassional group of people living in complete isolation.



reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 04:24 PM by Soylent Green Is People
I say most likely a bird...

Heres the way I see it:


Or possibly we are looking at the right wing edge-on, and the 'Hump' is the top of the left wing. Either way, it looks like a bird.

...and timewaveZero -- How can they know it was two miles away if it wasn't seen when the picture was taken?

[edit on 1/1/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 04:25 PM by TheExaminer
reply to post by ArMaP



Granted of course! My experiment was to help those that don't know what light a CCD can see beyond the visible spectrum.

Film camera users have to use special film, whereas Digital Camera users won't. You would be shocked how people do not know this fact.

My point being that one can look through the lens and not see anything that reflects IR light or emits it.

Might be a bird, sure.

Let's fire up our Digital Cameras and take some random shots of sky with land for reference. Agreed more attention to detail is always a good thing.




reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 04:31 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by TheExaminer



If the infra-red light was so visible in digital cameras as to make objects appear then they would be almost useless, anything emitting heat would appear in a different colour.


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 04:33 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People




Wow, you did a really good job. You have convinced me its a seagull!

Hope you get some applause!




reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 05:50 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by cometa



Nobody can be 100% certain.

But after looking at Soylent Green's analysis, thats what I believe it is...a seagull!

[edit on 1-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:12 PM by NJ Mooch
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People



You got a star for showing a factual comparison of a bird to this imagery. You can't make it any clearer.


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:12 PM by skibtz
Originally posted by cometa


are you sure it is a seagull?


Even more so.

Many thanks cometa

What program and filter were you using for that?

[edit on 1/1/2008 by skibtz]


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:16 PM by Hyacinth
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People



Thank you Soylent Green Is People, for doing exactly what I was about to do, I am 90% sure it is a Herring Gull (Larus argentatus) RSPB - Herring Gull there are hundreds of these birds down here in Cornwall. You can walk along the cliffs down here and not notice the flocks of them surrounding you, unless you are trained to notice them, to me it looks like a typical Herring gull floating on the thermals as they always do around here, and most other coastal regions.



reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:21 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by cometa



I am not sure (I am not sure of many things) but I think that the most probable explanation is that it was a sea bird, to know if it was really a seagull I needed to have a better knowledge of sea birds.

One of the reasons I think this is because I see seagulls everyday, many times they are the first thing I see when I open my eyes. And I like to watch them fly (because I like to watch everything and because they are such perfect fliers) and see how they change their wings' shape and positions to fly with or against the wind, make sharp turns, high speed dives, etc.

I have tried but I haven't had any chance of getting photos looking like that, when I got the camera the wind is strong and they do not fly like that, and when they fly like that I do not have the camera (the camera I use is not my own).


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:28 PM by cometa
reply to post by skibtz



i used GIMP. i have applied edge finding to the picture and played around with some color values to make shape and structures appearing better.


[edit on 1/1/08 by cometa]


reply posted on 1-1-2008 @ 06:32 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People



Ditto

Not even a close call since the eye and the beak are discernible.

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