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Study of AS08-13-2244 Image (moon amomaly)

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posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 06:16 AM
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This is an Apollo 8 image, numbered AS08-13-2244.


(Windows Picture & Fax Viewer to zoom,
print screen,
paste into Photoshop 7.0 and
"invert" applied by prettyMsTruly of Ufocasebook, and Skiguy .)


Main Image links used.
keithlaney.net...

history.nasa.gov...://history.nasa.gov/SP-4205/images/c282d.jpg
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the same image, with the colors inverted.


(link to full image)
i206.photobucket.com...
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this is the terrible version you will find at APOLLO IMAGE ATLAS
www.lpi.usra.edu...

magaizine location
www.lpi.usra.edu...

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and this is why I found the area so interesting...



(kieth laney’s image was used for this. All have the same result, though)

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possible evidence of the same type of base on mars, to be used as a reference/stockpile.
(Found by Anomaly Hunters, on mars.)

i206.photobucket.com...

i206.photobucket.com...

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evidence of why ‘INVERTING” may be of value…

original nasa clem image on offer for us mortals..


and now, after inverting..



Smart 1
..is also guilty of it, too

Original:


Now, inverted:


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and what the astronauts (and mission control) had to say on the area in question…




and the separate image attatched to show what 'area' they are referring to (kind'r..)
i206.photobucket.com...

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And now, what apollo 17 has to say(show) on the subject…..

mosaic i made using APOLLO AS17-P-1605 to 1617 images.
(ignore the pixellation my shrinking of the 'mosaic' created; was perfectly clear.)
i206.photobucket.com...

( as08 image to show area relationship
i206.photobucket.com... )

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-magazine used
www.lpi.usra.edu...

-stereo images(whatever that means)
www.lpi.usra.edu...


and this is the individaul image from as17 that should have the ‘structure’ present..


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AS08-13-2244
even un-inverted, it smacks of 'wrong'.

AS17-P-1608 (..etc)
‘nothing to see here, people.
move along’ (says NASA )

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lovell: “..i see it right there.”

..on board voice recording ends at this point.


(hardyefnharhar)
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help required.

"One picture is worth 1,000 denials." -Ronald Reagan.
(quote & original image for study, provided by pretty ms truely of ufocasebook)

[edit on 31-12-2007 by liv074_vi

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[edit on 31-12-2007 by liv074_v.2]

Mod Edit: Image Size – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 1-1-2008 by Jbird]




posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:24 AM
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Ok I can see that the focus of this is AS08-13-2244 so that part is good and I have conluded that the original work up was done by Truly over at ufo casebooks.

The big problem here is the resolution and format of that particular example of AS08-13-2244, ie to small and has lots of compression artifacts.

The obvious answer is to obtain a better image, so is there one available ?

At the moment I don't know if there would be one available for free online so my immediate thought is to order one from the Johnson Space Centre.

Has anybody done this liv0 ?



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:53 AM
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you conclude right, Sherpa.
inverted image was presented to casebook team ski/neph/law/raven/me by ms truely. (all 'work/anomalies' provided here i put together/found.)

don't be too quick to pick on the res, unless you are refering to apollo image atlas version. vomit. (..but you will no-doubt be right about your suspicions about 'compression artifacts'.)

as for if there is a better verion available...

i know nasa has it, as they 'ordered it'(!!),

but..i don't know if anyone has done it;
...and as for getting(paying??) for a better copy from jsc, i'll leave that to someone more capable.

..and am hoping for 'someone else' to come through for me as i'm ...incapable.
i244.photobucket.com...




posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:55 AM
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This is what I have found online.

These are Lunar Orbitor frames of the same area mostly medium resolution but there are two high unfortunately they are jpg but beggars can't be choosers.

The link below will take you to a feature list page scroll down the page and look for Doppler the images are availble on the frame number links to the right.
www.lpi.usra.edu...
Hope this helps.

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posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 08:12 AM
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and am hoping for 'someone else' to come through for me as i'm ...incapable.


If you have a credit card and can use email than you can order images.

Sometimes if you want to find something out bad enough you have to give a little.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 08:18 AM
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big thanks sherpa
,

here are the two hi-res, but unfortunately.. they don't show the exact area in question.



www.lpi.usra.edu...
www.lpi.usra.edu...

the rest are pixellated cr@p(Bloody NASA!!!!!!!
)

[edit on 31-12-2007 by liv074_v.2]



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by sherpa

and am hoping for 'someone else' to come through for me as i'm ...incapable.


If you have a credit card and can use email than you can order images.

Sometimes if you want to find something out bad enough you have to give a little.


i want something bad enough that i put about 40 hrs (at least) into studying this area.
(..but i know what youre saying
)

edit: oh, and credit card ain't lookin' too.... likely.
(as i'm a fiscial failure)

[edit on 31-12-2007 by liv074_v.2]



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 06:18 AM
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And a darn good Happy New year to you too !


I suspected you could find some better images and you have come up spades well done, another star for your enormous collection.



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 07:49 AM
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that wasn't just your standard 'happy new year', internos..

..it was also a belated christmas and birthday present all in one!!


what a huge image!!
(and the gateway link also!)
i could kiss you


(please tell me i can use those links to track down other hi-res images in the future..?!?!)

and was as you suspected, sherpa
..compression artifacts, and wouldn't have the 'full picture' untill get high-res.

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great work and great help guys, and think this 'anomaly' can now be put to bed.



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 08:01 AM
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hmmm, glad 'they' like you!!







posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 08:23 AM
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and was as you suspected, sherpa
..compression artifacts, and wouldn't have the 'full picture' untill get high-res.


Believe me I have seen many low-res images that have had areas I was suspicious of but when I have managed to get hold of better quality versions those areas disappear.

If you spend long enough comparing the low-res artifact populated versions with the high-res ones you can often detect these artifacts without having to use a comparative example.



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 04:22 PM
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I tried three times to go there. I got bumped off line each time.


What's up with that? Maybe too many hits at once?



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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"...low-res artifact populated versions with the high-res ones you can often detect these artifacts without having to use a comparative example.."

i hope to achieve that one day. will just keep getting more experience and persisting



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by NGC2736
reply to post by liv074_v.2
 


I tried three times to go there. I got bumped off line each time.


What's up with that? Maybe too many hits at once?



i 'think' it has something to do with internos, and him having ....permission.

..we're though the looking glass here, people!






posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 04:48 PM
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To all providing relevant info/images on the subject of "moon anomalies" :

Keep up the good work!...

Just to add to the fodder,...
this...

i86.photobucket.com...



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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cheers!
everyone chipped in and we got a documented conclusion.

and beaut moon pic for the files, thanks.



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by liv074_v.2

Originally posted by NGC2736
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I tried three times to go there. I got bumped off line each time.


What's up with that? Maybe too many hits at once?



i 'think' it has something to do with internos, and him having ....permission.

..we're though the looking glass here, people!




NGC2736, please, which link is? And what error do you get? It disconnects you or just you see 404 (page not found)?

liv074_v.2 :
about how i retrieved this last images, for example, AS08-13-2244:

from here
eol.jsc.nasa.gov...

you have to select the mission (AS-08 = Apollo 8)
to input the roll number (13)
and the frame number (2244)


And you should put this citation for each photo that you post/link :
Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
No particular permissions are required in this site.

I've posted two alternate links:
the first one is the request page (before the request, the image wasn't available on ftp, i waited about 3 minutes);
the second one is my imageshack account.
Hope this helps


The error that i see here

seems to be caused by an attempt of logging in anonymously (but i may be wrong), how did you get it?

[edit on 2/1/2008 by internos]



posted on Jan, 2 2008 @ 07:11 AM
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i think i can speak for us all when i say THANKS for the site/link, internos!
as for how i got my result, was i tried to cheat the system (and cut/paste address with new image number etc), and it didn't like that


..think i'll follow your method





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