Japan: What Are You Hiding?

your saying it's easier to believe in a multinational conspiracy
between governments that don't like each other
than it is to believe 1 person is wrong.
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i]reply to post by Dr Love




[edit on 31-12-2007 by Ancrom]

[edit on 31-12-2007 by Ancrom]

I've already read it and said it and i'll say it again -It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together. First the Jaxa moon satellite then no pictures then this article Dec 20th
Japan Defence Minister Braces For Aliens.

Is all of this only incredibly obvious to me????

reply to post by CyberTruth


i agree with you...it's also amazing how after 2 years the shadows match up almost to perfection as dos the distance from the planet and the camera angle in degrees. that means that the 2 photos had to be taken with the sun in the correct place, the moon in the correct place and the camera in the correct place all matching up after 2 years...incredible!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by CyberTruth
I've already read it and said it and i'll say it again -It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together. First the Jaxa moon satellite then no pictures then this article Dec 20th
Japan Defence Minister Braces For Aliens.

Is all of this only incredibly obvious to me????

Human beings operate with sense perception. We like also like to reason, and have faith when needed. Hearing there are aliens even from Government oficials, military officials blowing whistles, that's nice, but in the end a conditioned human needs the five senses to validate, other then that we go: Maybe, Maybe not. We then go back to living life without ETs physicaly in it.

Originally posted by NGC2736
While ten months sounds like a long time to wait, it isn't really.

Hi NGC2736

How does the 10 month frame compare with other satellite missions? I have been trying to find out but to no avail.

I think you are right about the ego, although I suspect it could be more of a national rather than personal ego. Japan will want to be the one to share any new findings I reckon.

Maybe it's a dumb question, or I couldn't find it on the JAXA site, so here goes.

So you are one of the first countries to send a new probe to the moon since the Apollo missions.

You have HD photo technology, and video at that.
You have an entire range of new imaging and radar technologies.
And one of your biggest competitors, China, is also in the race on this one.
You have the possibility of capturing the landing site at Tranquility and publishing it to the world, let the American's remember, endear them to your mission...

Imagine HD video of the site, for all the world to see...the rover, the flag, the lazer mirror, then lander base.

But you decide that it is unimportant. Why?

Like I said, maybe I missed this on jda.jaxa.jp...

Also, the images I am seeing of the moon, in comparison with the Mars mission leave something to be desired. In the Mars missions, you can see the rover tracks, the Japan stuff well, you will see.

My 2 cents on this topic.

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I couldn't agree more.

If JAXA wanted funding the first thing they should have done would be to provide amazing images of the landing site et al.

The money made from the use of these images would have been staggering. T-shirts, mugs, posters, keyrings and all the usual tat that goes hand in hand with commercialism.

They could have funded their next 50 years of space exploration with those images alone!

Yes.. wouldn't it have been absolutely dandy for them to make a couple of quick passes over the Apollo sites and publicize a pic or two?
I'm sure they(JAXA) would've loved to!

But us einstiens over here need to understand that the Terrain Camera that they use(which is the most detialed instrument they have looking at the moon in the visual spectrum) has a bloomin resolution of of 10 metres per pixel.

So every pixel width(now you know how small a pixel is) on any of these images taken by the TC would correspond to 10 metres(or more, not less) on the lunar surface.

So all your rovers and landers and flags and play shovel left behind by the Apollo missions(and those by the soviet unmanned landers) would show up as specs(or smaller) on any of these photos.

Now one might say, "all this resolution excuse is fine, why don't they just show a snapshot of one of the landing sites(like someone here said tranquility base) and let us decide which spec is what, man-made,alien or otherwise??!"

Well frankly speaking, the Japanese Space Agency whole-heartedly believes that the Americans went to the moon, at least to my knowledge. So they see no need to waste thruster fuel on their little orbiter to make forced passes over landing sites.
If teh TC is to map the entire moon then it will HAVE to map all landing sites as well.So once you guys get the full lunar mosaic they release, you can argue over your 1px X 1px landers, spacecraft et al..

If you want to wait for higher res photos, you would need to wait for teh Indian lunar probe Chandrayaan-1 to release its mosaic etc.. which would of a 5 metre per pixel resolution.

Finally the NASA LRO would have an even better resolution of 1metre per px but its swath(full horizontal extent of photo capture) is very small (~20km..Im not sure) as compared to either SELENE or Chandrayaan(~40km) so you would have to wait for an immensely long time to see anything that you can hypothesize about.


[edit on 4-1-2008 by Daedalus3]

can i just ask how long it would normally take for japan to have gotten everything ready for us so we can see the images of the moon

if it was doing a normal rutine job without any conspriracy stuff going on like if it was just normally going to the moon to take pics

dark ace

japans priority is to give its own scientists whove theyve invested alot of money the chance to study all the data and publish their findings in scientific journals.

If they release all the data as it came in it would allow other scientists to study it , make discoveries and beat them to the punch in publishing papers. This is standard practice in the scientific community, ESA does exactly the same for their projects usually withholding most of the data for 12 months or more

Have they released any photos yet ?, I remember seeing some low quality ones a few weeks back

reply to post by skibtz


I bet they sold the orbiter to USA as soon as they found 'no apollo debris'

skibtz,

I totally agree w/ you.

Something def up. I began to wonder myself why no images were being released and found this thread when I went to post the same question.

I'll see if I can send an email to them thru their website.

I'll let ya'll know if I hear back.



[edit on 29-1-2008 by damagemouse]

reply to post by damagemouse


Good work damagemouse, keep us updated.

More than can be said for JAXA - we are in Feb and they have offered up squat all!!!

Oh yeah - they have some colour charts and bits n bobs that mean feck all to the lay man and besides I want pictures of the moon not pie charts et al.

If I was a Japanese tax-payer I would be seriously peeved. The longer they keep the world waiting the more this is starting to look like a sham.

[edit on 3/2/2008 by skibtz]

They need to finish negotiations with the aliens first...

then they need to photoshop the pics....

then make up all kinds of stuff that they have learned..

sounds like a very serious undertaking to me... might take
a month or 2...
even if they are photoshopped... I cant wait to see the new
pics and... im sure we can find the mistakes in there.....

it takes time to airbrush ...erm I ment analyze all thos nice pictures from the moon Dont worry , they will put them out eventually

Darn.

Am I doopid or what!

Sorry for the lame joke and daft link guys

[edit on 17/2/2008 by skibtz]