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Government porn filter to slow down the internet

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posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:46 PM
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How is it different from chocolate, sugar, honey, alcohol, tobacco, your daily medication -- legal and illegal? I mean, there were lots and lots of people falling over themselves yesterday, Sunday, getting the whole lot of it while watching their football games. And the beer commercials? Just 'cause they're wearing clothes doesn't mean it's not pornographic. Get rid of the entertainment industrial complex? Okay, but, watch it! Don't eat that orange. Do you know what oranges do to a person? Eating enough oranges just might make a person feel -- good.




posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 02:42 PM
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Reply to 'lost in madness' "and what's wrong with coc aine?. Do it for seven years in your prime and watch all the things really important to you drift away. That is what is wrong with it. I wouldn't touch 98 percent peruvian gold with a twenty foot stick. Stuff in evil nasty.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 02:47 PM
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Naaa, CREEPY- I've got a different take on Porn-on -Demand, which is what you prefer, from what I gathered from your post.

I really think it should take just a little bit of effort for those who wish to view porn, to view it. And no, I'm not talking about just logging on as effort.

Porn should be filtered, at every level, to protect the children. It's really not that big a deal if the husband who wants to get his jollies by masturbating to porn just needs to click a few more firewalls to get it on his monitor. It shouldn't be the non-porn addicts who need to request it removed, it should be porn-requesters that need to jump through a few minor hoops to get it.

People who view porn, for the most part, aren't just viewing pictures. They are participating in sex. They need to seek it out, instead of it being available on-demand.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 03:05 PM
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This filter isn't just on porn, it is on anything that the government deems unacceptable.

Will this, considering that, ban me from accessing ATS because it considers some of the information on here threatening?

Regardless of what it filters out, i will be opting-out of this. Not for the need to access any websites, but for the simple reason of preserving my right to if i wanted to.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:18 PM
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fooffstarr,

You're thinking along the lines I'm thinking. Who's to say Big Brother doesn't have other intentions, besides your child's "protection." Heck, they broke into your house and told you that you can't watch this "channel," "Now, we would also like you to stop watching the Truth Seeker channel. It's not good for you and breeds terrorists."

I'm not saying porn viewing is a good thing or anything, by the way. I've viewed it far too many times. It's like an addiction. I'm trying to tear myself away from it as of late.

Troy



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:39 PM
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I remember reading that cable providers who provide a complete service (Internet and TV) would like to tailor their services to fit their corporate aims. The internet would become an extension of their service, rather than a separate tool. Something like Xbox Live is to gaming only even more useless.

I don’t think the trend was described as government inspired. It was more about forcing their products than control.

That said the internet is the new frontier where we all have the right to an equal say, and the advent of journalistic bloggers has changed the face of the world media. I have no doubt that governments would like to see this new found power curbed.

Democracy may be the best form of dominance, but its dominance all the same. I’m visiting the Palatine hill next month to see relics of Democracy.


apc

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by tyranny22
I think we're all agreed that this form of media is unacceptable...

Porn or child porn? Cus if you're talking about porn we definitely are not all agreed!

I enjoy porn. My girlfriend enjoys porn. We enjoy it together. We'll watch Debbie Does Breakfast... while making breakfast! Porn is great! You can learn new tricks, get a good laugh, or keep yourself company when your partner is away. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Anybody who argues otherwise always eventually falls back on God or some other religious hooplah. Ergo they lose.

 

Does there need to be a renewed push for some sort of age verification to access online porn? Probably. When I ran a few porn sites in the late 90s there were a few attempts at legislation here in the US. Problem was though it's a state issue, and nobody could agree on how to handle it. If something needs to be done, that is where to look. Not censorship. Censorship is never the answer, especially when it is made abundantly clear that porn will not be the only material censored. Anything the Australian government deems "inappropriate" will be censored requiring the citizen to request permission (opt-out) to access. That's not how freedom works.






[edit on 31-12-2007 by apc]



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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This is about child porn. It's about all porn. What does it tell you about a society that spends more on porn each year than goes to the movies. What happened to values! A bunch of middle aged guys sitting around with nothing better to do than look at young hot women that they will never have. This kind of crap is going to set some freak off somewhere and I hope it's not your daughter. Nothing is held back to the imagination anymore. It's almost like nothing is to shocking anymore. And when I get bored with that I'll just start looking at little 12 year olds and see if I can get my nut off on that. One leads to the other. I suggest that men and women alike that find it necessary to spend a portion of the day on porn sites find a girlfriend or boyfriend and have great sex and invite your friends over to watch if that's what your into because porn is such an important part of your worthless life if you have nothing better to do!


apc

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 06:43 PM
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Mutantalien1947, you seem to be caught up on porn addicts for what I'm guessing are personal reasons. Porn by nature is not addictive. People prone to addiction can become addicted to it like anything else. Like sex addicts. Should government restrict sex, too?



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 06:49 PM
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apc

posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:01 PM
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I thought she was with you?

So porn = downfall of civilization therefore government must censor it. Gotcha.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:04 PM
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APC.
I don't go around everyday thinking about porn. I'm not out holding signs. I like sex as much as the next guy but my girlfriend of almost 4 years just died of cervical cancer. I just think we need to kind of clean up our act alittle. Some of this stuff is just out of control and we don't need it.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 07:22 PM
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typical...

So the assumption is that parents arent capable of making these decisions for themselves on behalf of their kids.

A bit like those boxes we dont tick, only to find the assumption has been made that we do want to recieve piles and piles of junk mail.

hmmm, i dont like this one.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by apc
Funny but true the world wide web evolved from a desire to facilitate the exchange of porn.


Internet development and porn go hand in hand (or hand in crotch?)

To continue the timeline from the point where you left:

After Mosaic, the next step was to get people to pay for the porn -- enter secure online transactions.

Next, still pictures became not that nifty anymore, and downloading clips of videos only to be disappointed didn't make sense. Streaming video was developed as a result.

That was followed by webcams.

I wonder what's next?

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Your boss is an evil man.

 


As for the topic in the OP, whatever. It's not gonna stop porn. If the government of Oz really wants to stop children from 'unwanted exposure', they should make public service announcements to get people to use pop-up blockers and ad-blockers that block those things. That's where most of the unwanted exposure comes from anyway, from those ads that come on when you are looking for something else.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 11:14 PM
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First of all this is kind of shocking to me and its not even my country, It definately disturbs me that this is going on anywhere in the world.

The internet has always I've thought of been a one glimmer of hope in my eyes for news, everyone that uses these forums should realize that, news these days is 95% entertainment news and barely nothing important anymore. The internet has always been something that leaves the content up to the user with a claim of go anywhere you wish, and thats something I've always loved about the internet. To hear that it can be taken away is just a shock and I really don't enjoy hearing it.

In todays society we are way too comfortable handing over small liberties or freedoms to the government just for the good of the mass, it scares me everyday. This seems like something that should be left up to filters, or perhaps as someone earlier mentioned should be in reverse where YOU call the ISP if you want this filter in place, not shoved down your throats.



[edit on 31-12-2007 by Mcloud313]



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 05:15 AM
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You said that you get your news from the internet and 95% is entertainment which means you're getting 5% of the news and maybe that's why you think there's nothing important anymore. Should entertainment be more important than electing a new president or the war on terror. Should I be able to go online to find out how to build a bomb just because I feel that it's my right. What does it tell you about a society that just can't get enough porn. I can't smoke at work anymore and am forced to stand out in the cold but I can go online and look up child porn. How many people have had their banking information taken by online scammers or have been taken by an online fraud. Where are the checks and balances. When it comes to the internet there is no sense of right or wrong and I don't understand why when we maintain strict standards for almost everything else.


apc

posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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So far you haven't offered up one reason why the Australian government should censor traffic for the entire country.

You having your own opinions about pornography is fine. It's fairly obvious you have had personal issues with it in the past. If your girlfriend died of cervical cancer, it was likely from an untreated HPV infection, which you also have. You likely hold it against her as you believe she contracted it through infidelity. Considering most sexually active people have contracted the virus at some point in their lives, it's not really surprising. How that applies to pornography however I am unsure, but it must as you seemed to feel the need to bring it up to support your opinion.

Regardless of your personal beliefs about pornographic material, nobody forces you to look at it. It's been around since the first drawings on a caveman's wall. We're still here. Respect is not dead. It is simply another form of speech. Free speech. So do you have anything to offer to justify why government should be able to censor free speech, any speech government deems "inappropriate," or no?



posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 12:53 PM
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Im kind of confused is that guy being rude to your girlfirend? It seems like he cussed your girlfriend, and he gets away with it.

That Mutantalien1947 guy was too rude to you. And he talks about respect and values? How ironic



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posted on Jan, 1 2008 @ 01:28 PM
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Might as well throw rock music in there, too. In fact the entire western patriarchal philosophy should be filtered out if that's your criteria. Women are always second and therefore first to be degraded. Guns = law. So, just filter out the whole damn thing.



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