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Topic started on 30-12-2007 @ 09:58 AM by Burginthorn
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Government porn filter to slow down the internet
www.news.com.au
 AUSTRALIANS will be forced to contact their internet service provider to avoid having their access to the web restricted.
The restrictions are planned by the Federal Government to give greater protection to children from online pornography and violent websites.
Under the plan, all internet service providers will be required to provide a "clean" feed to households and schools, free of pornography and other
inappropriate material. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 09:58 AM by Burginthorn
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This is pretty serious IMHO.
Ok sure, a simple phone call to your ISP to have the mandatory ISP filter removed is all it takes to have your rights to view whatever you wish
returned.
But the fact that the Govt has FORCED ALL ISP's to follow these restrictions is very serious. To me at least, this should have been done the other way
around. If your a concerned parent, then it should be YOUR responsibility to contact your ISP and have both Porn and Violent content filtered. But to
just lay the smack down right across the entire national network seems somewhat "gestapo" like IMHO.
Will be interesting to see what other ATS members think of this move.
www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 10:00 AM by _Phoenix_
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It seems almost the beginning of internet freedom being taken away, whats going to be next?
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 10:09 AM by ChiKeyMonKey
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You really think you have internet freedom NOW!!
Ha.
They know what, where, when and how you look at stuff, it's all at the touch of a button.
If the Gov wants to know about your strange habits and what floats your boat they will find out.
It's all about acceptance. This is good for the kids so you will except it, if you don't you're possibly a perv or a peado or something so much
worse and everyone will judge you because of your anti social stand point.
Accept this law: it is good for you!
MonKey
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 10:18 AM by Badge01
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This just in:
New Zealand unveils plans for ramping up personnel to deal with the expected massive influx of immigration requests.
And...the usual protests from affected parties:
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 10:56 AM by stumason
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I know it seems a bit "facist" at first glance, it is actually far easier to bar it all and let people "opt out" of the filter than it would be to
individually apply filters to everyone who requested one.
Imagine if everyone had to contact their ISP to request this, they would be inundated with calls, e-mails etc and it wouldn't work. Applying it
across the board and allowing people to opt out seems the easier option, logistically.
However, I must add that there is already plenty of products and services out there that already do this. Coupled with the fact that parents really
should know what their kids are up too in the first place and this shouldn't be necessary.
Conclusion: I smell a rat. The only other countries to apply filters and blocks to internet services are the not-so-pleasant ones, such as Burma and
China.
Is this Law now? Or is it going through parliament? Write your MP and complain!!
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:09 AM by TheoOne
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How about to establish the law (or international law) that states the ban of the internet pornographic websites? To state further, it would be illegal
for the pornographic companies to create websites of images and videos. That definitely would put the end to the rise of internet porn.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:14 AM by stumason
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Hey, there's no need to "abolish" internet porn!
I, er, erm, understand it is quite popular....
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:28 AM by GradyPhilpott
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I don't see a problem with this.
If you don't want a "clean feed", contact your ISP.
Personally, I think that there will be far more people who want unrestricted access, than who want restricted access, but having to opt in is not that
big a deal, at least on the surface.
The devil is in the details.
By the way, the title is more than misleading. It's down right false.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:32 AM by jpm1602
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Porn is nasty. Way too many people get caught up in it. It excites the same brain receptors as cocaine. It is like a drug. I would avoid it like the
plague. It is not good for the soul. Just my humble opinion.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:36 AM by stumason
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Originally posted by jpm1602
Porn is nasty. Way too many people get caught up in it. It excites the same brain receptors as cocaine. It is like a drug. I would avoid it like the
plague. It is not good for the soul. Just my humble opinion. 
How is it any different to seeing your missus spread akimbo on your bed? Or seeing her dressed up in the negligee and knee high boots that you got her
for Christmas?
All porn does is to provide sexual explicit material for the purpose of arousing yourself. Seeing your partner in an equally arousing setting is no
different, apart from the fact you can actually "take part".....
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:44 AM by Beachcoma
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The difference is people may end up not working towards getting the missus to dress up as a nurse, er, I mean, sexily... It is, sort of like a drug...
there's definitely a neuro-biological factor going on there.
Check it out:
Monkeys Pay to See Female Monkey Bottoms A new study found that male
monkeys will give up their juice rewards in order to ogle pictures of female monkey's bottoms. The way the experiment was set up, the act is akin to
paying for the images, the researchers say.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:48 AM by Mira_of_lurk0more
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I recently found a site where I had a few pictures hosted was also hosting some files that I thought were pretty scummy. I chose to leave. I wish I
could Zap my user data there. I read this news piece (thanks to the OP) and I sort of understand, for sure. It's a choice from a menu. Tick here and
sign and we'll adjust your hosts list in our client db. Thank you for phoning AusNet or whatever.
I also see a potential leverage point by those who might through law have access to those ISP records of "clean feed" vs "unrestricted." It's
like where do you draw the between the pervs and Big Brother? Is there a difference? Is the net just another playpen? Or pigpen? Or both?
You know I can see both extremes as valid in some respects but it isn't something ethicists won't not be talking about when I'm in my 20's, or
'30's... if we're still here at all.
Mira
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:50 AM by stumason
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I don't see how a picture of a naked lady can be any worse than an actual naked lady.
I can understand that some lonely people may become somewhat warped or dependent by using porn too much and then expecting women in real life to be
the same, but that isn't the same thing. It isn't the porn itself that is bad, but rather their own perception of reality.
The monkey experiment is puzzling. Were there actual female monkeys available to the males, or was it just a bunch of males looking at rude pictures?
When was the last time any of the males had seen a female monkey? Had it been some time, I'm not surprised they gave up their fruit juice to have a
look at some fine bottom. Gives them something to think about at bed time...
It's the same behavior you see in men. You can get 10 happily married men in a room and they will still all fight over that copy of reader's wives
you left on the table, even if their wives are 18 year old nymphs that require regular servicing.
The only conclusion they could draw from that experiment is:
Men like to see naked ladies....
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:57 AM by Beachcoma
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I haven't gone through the full report, but here's the link to the abstract:
Monkeys Pay Per View: Adaptive Valuation of Social Images by
Rhesus Macaques
A link to the the full text is available there, and you need not pay for it (hooray!)
A cursory glance tells me that they had control groups of lonely monkeys as well as normal groups of paired monkeys.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 11:59 AM by jpm1602
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The unecumbered female form may well be said to be art. I have seen my fill. I believe there is much to be said for modesty. I know, I'm a tart.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 12:04 PM by Mira_of_lurk0more
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You rock jp'!!! I agree with stumason we ladies are far easier to look at with some notable exceptions. Wink.
Mira!
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 12:07 PM by R-evolve
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i heard it somewhere that if all the porn was taken off the internet there would only be one website left to visit and that would be
www.bringback,the,porn.com
i understand these measure so kids dont look up porn, if its a simple opt in or out option online then fine
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 12:10 PM by DYepes
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Finally, I wish they would allow this in America. Look man, you can try and justify pornagraphy all you want, bit this makes it very very simple.
do you realize how many innocent adults also get spammed with pornagrpahy during search engines and whatnot? I did an image search for certain fish to
show my family the other day and various pornographic images were included, how distasteful.
It is simple, if you are this desperate for pornography, just opt out of the filter. No your freedom is not being restricted because you can still get
your pornography, you just have to make it clear you want it.
Our society is evolving, and the age of immorality is finally being dismantled slowly. If you are too lazy to call your ISP for your
self-gratificational fix, seek a real live opposite (or same) and enjoy your time together, or begin enjoying the time with the one you are with.
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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 12:13 PM by OzWeatherman
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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Burginthorn
Is this Law now? Or is it going through parliament? Write your MP and complain!! 
I think its going through parliament at the moment. Personally I cant see it working, and internet service providers are going to be absolutely
swamped.
Oh well guess its back to going out, getting drunk and getting some for real eh
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