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Originally posted by NewWorldOver
I am sometimes bewildered by the Masons ability to use quotation marks for things like higher and lower levels. When you have so many members swaggering about professing themselves to be Second Degree, Third Degree, Masters etc.
And then when the topic of ranking comes up they act as if it's some alien concept. Yes, the 'higher level' or higher ranking individual will always have influence of lower ranking compartments, and if this concept seems odd to Masons I must again ask whether or not we are existing in the same reality.
And then when the topic of ranking comes up they act as if it's some alien concept. Yes, the 'higher level' or higher ranking individual will always have influence of lower ranking compartments, and if this concept seems odd to Masons I must again ask whether or not we are existing in the same reality.
This is a conspiracy forum where we will continue to discuss Masonry as we see fit.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
We act like it is alien because it is alien. All the Masons on Above Top Secret, as far as I know, are allMaster Masons and therefore none of us 'outrank' the other. Additonally, we hail from all parts of the world and for this reason have no influence Masonically over the others decisions.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
But again, may I ask what this has to do with the thread at hand?
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
Augustus, sometimes I wonder if it is not allegiance to Masonry that causes all the disputes on this forum, or the enormous ego complex of Masons within this forum.
Why must you assume that we non-masons or 'anti-masons' consider you to be involved in any conspiracy?
originally posted by NewWorldOver
Yes, the 'higher level' or higher ranking individual will always have influence of lower ranking...
When we speculate on Masonry and conspiracy within Masonry, we are not including the Masons on ATS. In fact, we do not consider you to be the least bit involved in any conspiracy.
Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
Once again NewWorldOver, How does a hidden compartment within freemasonry control/influence the rest of freemasonry? Remember, Masonry is decentralized. You seem to not understand the concept of decentralization at all.
Please read my previous post, as I have given you examples of how commands can be passed down within a centralized command structure. Now if you could only give us an example of this being done within freemasonry...
[edit on 21/2/08 by ConspiracyNut23]
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
If there is no substance to the argument against Freemasons and Freemasonry then please explain to me the 33rd degree north parallel line and all the atrocities that have occurred on that line across many countries??????
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
Ha ha masonic light omg you guys think you're illuminated with knowledge but you are still being lied to. There is no supreme being there is no god, how can you have something before anything create everything out of nothing including himself? its all inconceivable, the word god is inconceivable!
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
The reason masons don't care what god you believe in as long as you do believe and you are not an atheist is because if you are that dumb to believe such an incoherent story one of superstition that is Jehovah Elohim Allah jahbalon jesus Krishna buddah Baal Ra Horus Isis Osiris and any other god created by man then you are already on the first step to being brain washed and mind controlled. every god ever created by man is based on an analogy of the stars the moon the sun or a prominent constellation such as the zodiac.
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
The 33rd parallel line does exist it is real and more blood has been spilt along that line then any other, it crosses Iraq, it is where the trinity site is, Hiroshima was on 33rd degree line and every state in America that crosses the line has the death penalty!
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
it is obvious Jesus is a story of the annual cycle of the sun thats why pagans and Egypt and Babylon have the same stories, there is even stone carvings in Babylon showing three kings or wise men delivering gifts to the new born SUN.
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
What about Bohemian Grove?
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
I don't care even if Masons believe in Lucifer he still doesn't exist Lucifer always was always will be Venus!
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
Masons worship and partake in rituals gratifying every god on their way to the 33rd degree. They pay homage to Lucifer because they created the deity like every other one.
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
I am anti mason anti religion anti government and i oppose the education system and media all are keeping up the same lie, hiding the truth and protecting our true adversaries. One day there will be enough people who will wake up, when that day comes masons will be found beheaded in the street along with every political leader!
Originally posted by AnarchynowApophis2012
Another thing God was considered a female first before monotheistic religion came along. They changed him to a father figure to help relate how they want you to behave, mind control mind terrorism even the word government says it all, govern = to control ment = mente = your mind! enough said, why defend something when they admit they want a new world order, they tell you everything they hide it all in plain sight.