reply to post by intrepid
Is there a possibility that there can actually be an inner circle that most Masons do not know about that are working independently from Masonry, they
just happen to be Masons? What better recruits, that THEY choose, than people that can be trusted. For what though?
Absolutely NOT.... and I will tell you why good sir.
If someone is opperating in a Secret
manor away from .. main stream Masonry
It is therefore not associated with Masonry at all. It is.. irregular
.. which irregular lodges and oranizations may use some sort of Masonic
tradition.. they are not actual Masons by Regular Masonic standards. A good example is P2 (Propaganda 2) .. This lodge was irregular, was used as a
political gentlemens club but was never associated with Regular Freemasonry
.. Thus had noting to do with.. they where a seperate body. They
could have chosen a million different names, groups, religions what have you to achieve their agenda BUT THEY WHERE NOT MASONS.
Could there be a group of Freemasons that control vast wealth and control over the economy?
Do I think there is? .. No. I have some very wealthy
family memebers and you'll never believe it..... they are normal, and poltiical
ideologies differ greatly, but the wealth was created through traditional capitalist methods...... no secret group required.
There is a notion that all rich people are Masons. That all rich people are powerful.. which they are not.. and that all rich people are evil...
which most are not at all..
Its bigotry on all sides.
However, assuming there WAS a secret Masonic Cabal that opperated under Masonry.. yet did not represent Freemasons under the UGLE they do not opperate
as Masons.. thus, it does not matter what group they go under, but simply who they are, because they are their own entity.
Freemasonry is a elected system, the leader of the Grand Lodge is voted in for ONE year.. spending most of his time traveling to lodges and
The wealth of MY *Grand lodge is under 20 million dollars. I will tell you that much, but not the specific number. The majority of those funds are
in various investments and cannot be touched. The majority of Lodges exist in small towns and many hardly pay their bills.
Some lodges like my own, which is properly funded, are only so because we work baseball games and such.. even those making 200K + a year work the base
ball conession stands and such.
If there was a Cabal working UNDER Masonry, it would have to be FOR Masonry.. and the economic situation of the Grand Lodges shows that there is NO
evidence what so ever of the leadership generating massive wealth for Masonry.
And not for themselves either.. our last MWM was an electrician.
for a few that are chosen to do other things that are related to Masonry while actually not being part of the Craft?
Oh this is possible.. its not likely to be the case exactly.. but the bottom line is it is not Masonic at all. The traits in the person that would be
observed and elected would not represent Masonry either, and would not be a by-product of Masonry. Essentially it would be no different then
recruiting from the Golf Club or the local Mens Club.
Also for this endevour of the type you are speaking of, Masonry does not support or train in any way like-mindedness in this fashion.. the only
like-minded attitude in Masonry is a sense of self-betterment, to be apart of something bigger then your self, and brotherhood.
Political ideologies differ to the extremes (just watch some of us Masons on ATS talk politics....) and to be in an endevour similar to the NWO or
even a smaller variation, like minded political ideas must be prevelent.. if not the system is shot. Also, the fundamentals of this NWO ideology is
the generation and SHARING of wealth amongst a united Oligarchy... this goes against basic Human instict to garnish power for ones self, so a Cabal of
a Oligarchy type system makes no sense.. the like-minded attitudes needed would have to be even deeper then basic economical politics.. but perhaps
even down to faith, which Masonry is not like minded.
Masonry is just to diverse.
I hope that can add to the argument Intrepid.
By the way... this is only my opinion, and not the opinion of all Brothren of Masonry.. it can differ vastly from person to person, which may
strengthen my point. I do not represent Masonry. I represent myself as Masonry does not hold Beliefs regarding Economics or Politics as an
EDIT: To fix "my lodge" to "My grand lodge"
Will edit dismal spelling later.
[edit on 2/7/2008 by Rockpuck]