It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Vatican City Mystery -Can you crack the code?

page: 1
11
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 12:40 AM
link   

THE VATICAN STAR MAP - REVEALED


Vatican city holds the solution. In all its glory, it spreads all the way across the great St Peter's piazza matching the circular key handle pattern, all the way down the causeway to the Castel Sant' Angelo. The Fortress is a giant five pointed star! Here is the first breakthrough:
.......Click here to learn more.

Here is a broader view of Vatican City


Here is St. Peter holding "The key to Paradise".


Interesting is the street layout of the Vatican City echoes the layout of cities such as Washington d.c, London, and Paris which their 'masonic' type geometry.

This is another great piece to the puzzle. What puzzle?

Happy hunting.


[edit on 30-12-2007 by IvanZana]




posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 01:36 PM
link   
I ♥ puzzles!


I have read the main page - lots more links to investigate!

But WOW! When I saw the picture of the Vitruvian man in the star of Castel Sant' Angelo, I immediately thought of the 10th chapter of Revelation:


1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.


This may be a stretch, but to me, it seems as if the right 'leg' of the star is on land while the left is on the sea...which is the opposite of the stance of the seventh angel; which makes sense if one considers that Earth and Heaven are 'face to face' and therefore mirror images of one another. (in the likeness of our image)

I personally associate obelisks with Hashteput, and Senmut was her vizier...and I believe the sphinx (riddle box) to be a representation of a female pharaoh. The 'right paw' of the Sphinx (the roaring lion) = the right hand of Christ = the key to which St. Peter holds.

I don't know...my mind is reeling! I have a lot of reading to do!

THANK YOU for the link and the post, IvanZana!

GOD bless you!



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 01:39 PM
link   
reply to post by IvanZana
 

Gee, it looks kinda like those Drones in California.



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 01:49 PM
link   

Originally posted by aleon1018
Gee, it looks kinda like those Drones in California.


Drones? Worker bees?


What do you mean?



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 02:21 PM
link   
I thought it was common knowledge that Bernini desgined his layout for St Peter's Square to use the exisiting St Peter's Basilica to resemble a key hole. Thus the Vatican is the place where the key "sits".

My understanding was that Bernini did not envisgae a key extending from the square towards the Castello San' Angelo though, but in fact the shape is a keyhole design meant to head from the main colonnaded square outside the basilica the other way, with St Peter's Basilica forming the other component.

Incidentally, the present shape of the Castello San Angelo is not how it was originally, and it has changed somewhat over time: www.castles.org...



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 02:33 PM
link   
Your very welcome Queen.


This could all just be a coincidence, but if it is not then we need to revisit history from a new angle. At the beginning of the story it was suggested that this secret might be forbidden to humanity because it could change the world. How would this story change the world? If it is proven as factual (and there is now enough new research material to test it) then one has to ask the following three earth shattering questions:
www.thehiddenrecords.com...



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 06:05 PM
link   
reply to post by IvanZana
 


There is only one problem with that image and the theory behind it: it shows only a small area of the Vatican city (St Peter's square) and the rest is Rome.

Vatican city is behind the St. Peter's square, not in front, as you can see (but not holy see
) in this map.



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 06:28 PM
link   

Originally posted by IvanZana
Your very welcome Queen.





This could all just be a coincidence, but if it is not then we need to revisit history from a new angle.


I personally don't believe in coincidences...only convergence.

And as far as revisiting history - I'm not sure I ever left in the first place!
Or maybe that is where I am headed. In through the out door and all that.




At the beginning of the story it was suggested that this secret might be forbidden to humanity because it could change the world. How would this story change the world? If it is proven as factual (and there is now enough new research material to test it) then one has to ask the following three earth shattering questions:

thehiddenrecords.com


  1. What is the Christ star?

    I thought it was Arcturus but maybe it is Sirius.

    As in: my father was a Sirian.

    And thou shalt speak and say before the LORD thy God, A Syrian ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:
    Deuteronomy 26:5

  2. Are the star maps saying the entire human lineage is not of this Earth and we are all descendant from a divine lineage so to speak?

    Hybrids of matter and spirit, perhaps? I know that I am not from here, anyway.


  3. If all humankind is of the lineage of 'angelic' visitation would it not be certain that the logic of this revelation would insist we are all equal, no discrimination whatsoever, be it between male, female, society, race and religion? This would end slavery and human rights violations?

    In DEED! Oh yes, indeed. It would, it can, and it WILL!

  4. Would this be worth hiding at the time of Christ… or at the time of Leonardo Da Vinci?

    Yes it would seem so. Not perhaps out of an ultimately malevolent intention - GOD uses all things to our advantage - for our evolution and his good pleasure.

    Seeds require time to mature...it is vital, therefore, to protect them until they may stand on their own.




posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 06:57 PM
link   

Originally posted by IvanZana
Here is St. Peter holding "The key to Paradise".


Or the bottomless pit?

Just a thought. This should get interesting.



posted on Dec, 30 2007 @ 08:54 PM
link   

Originally posted by ArMaP
There is only one problem with that image and the theory behind it: it shows only a small area of the Vatican city (St Peter's square) and the rest is Rome.


Well, if the key is designed to open the Vatican City, then it's only natural that it "protrudes" from the "lock", isn't it?


Makes me want to go to Rome, this thread does.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 12:30 AM
link   
Ivan Zana & Queen, Hey love the content and research. I never really knew about the " Vatican Key" till just now, but I have heard about the Orion & 3 Kings. From what I read and actually saw b4 dawn on Christmas moring 2007 the strory is seemingly very true. The 3 kings of Orion's belt do truely point to Sirius, the Dog Star. On the birth day of Christ ( DEC 25th ) These stars ( oh this was a great thing to actually see ) The belt o Orion, the 3 Kings actually to follow the star, Sirius, to th birth of the son of god, or maybe SUN of god. They actually point to our rising Sun on Christmas morning.

If your key is a key to that truth of deception of virgin birth of a godly son, then ya it will change the world if people would believe it. some people are so stuck in there ways that even if the Church told them it was all a lie alot of people probably wouldn't even believe them. (poor sheep)



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:15 AM
link   
Hey sorry to burst your guys bubble, but you will never, ever, ever solve this puzzle. As it was never meant to be solved.
Sure you can speculate about what it all means, but thats all you can do.

If you really want the true answers, you must visit these places yourself, and get to know your inner self there. Thats why so many religious and non visit the Vatican every year, to see what its all about.

Sorry guys you are trying to solve something that you truly don't understand, no one understands what they are looking at.

I like to think all the answers are in the "Archives".

Happy hunting!



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:21 AM
link   

Originally posted by Harvestfreak
Hey sorry to burst your guys bubble, but you will never, ever, ever solve this puzzle. As it was never meant to be solved.
Sure you can speculate about what it all means, but thats all you can do.

If you really want the true answers, you must visit these places yourself, and get to know your inner self there. Thats why so many religious and non visit the Vatican every year, to see what its all about.

Sorry guys you are trying to solve something that you truly don't understand, no one understands what they are looking at.

I like to think all the answers are in the "Archives".

Happy hunting!



Oh how I would love to roam the Archives every bit of stolen or hidden knowledge since the birth of the Church! would be cool!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:37 AM
link   
I believe movies like Zeitgeist is really an antichrist movie which planly tells ya that you got no God, A government that has ya enslaved, and you screwed no matter what, powerless. Be ware!




The next verses are from the Gospel of St. Thomas. There are omitted from the bible. As you study the Gospel of thomas in it fullness you will see why. Recommend reading.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."



16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone.



I am not goin to provide any sources for you will learn more if you just google Gospel of St. Thomas.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:50 AM
link   

Originally posted by IvanZana

I believe movies like Zeitgeist is really an antichrist movie which planly tells ya that you got no God, A government that has ya enslaved, and you screwed no matter what, powerless. Be ware!




The next verses are from the Gospel of St. Thomas. There are omitted from the bible. As you study the Gospel of thomas in it fullness you will see why. Recommend reading.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. And after they have reigned they will rest."

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the kingdom is within you and it is outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."



16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone.



I am not goin to provide any sources for you will learn more if you just google Gospel of St. Thomas.



Yup watched the movie, bunch of I think is way out there. I don't care for the gov. control stuff. I have been looking for a true common bond to the worlds religions over the millenia. The star thing in beging made enough sense I had to check it out myself. So over the course of the past 5 or 6 months i have watched the whole night sky a lot more closely. It did blow my mind that the stars all lined up right b4 dawn. That is something solid with 1 of my 5 senses for proof. You can can call it God I choose to call it the supreme balance of postive and negative in an entity. The whole Zeit Geist was stretchy at best, but I knew I could watch the sky and see if that was all true. Guess what it was! Conspiracy or asronomy?

What is the key for in your oppinion by the way?



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:52 AM
link   
reply to post by IvanZana
 



I'm sorry I did forget to add that I believe Jesus was a man of some importance and great knowledge in his community with lessons and philosophies good for all mankind.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 04:25 AM
link   

Originally posted by Harvestfreak
Hey sorry to burst your guys bubble, but you will never, ever, ever solve this puzzle. As it was never meant to be solved.
Sure you can speculate about what it all means, but thats all you can do.


Just as equally as you can speculate that the puzzle is unsolvable.


Opinions are incomplete understandings.


I like to think all the answers are in the "Archives".


All the answers have of yet not been fully recorded...in writing. They exist in the mind which resides in the right paw of the Great Sphinx; not a physical place but rather an entity as a channel.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 11:37 AM
link   
just a thought of the picture of saint peter. If you notice the key first. it looks like it is a double headed key, meaning that while it looks like a key now, if you were to split the at the center, where there looks to be a break in the key, and flip the side of one key, it makes a mirror of the other side, and thus would look like an S, not the symbol that it has. Additionally, in the picture, there looks like there was a bend on the right 1/3 side going the complete length of the picture from top to bottom. If you flip that, then the key is actually facing the opposite direction, and if you take the key, and flip it to an S, where on the Rome map would the key actually land?

Just some thoughts.

ADDED---

It also looks that the key would fall on Cornelia, which if you wiki it,

Cornelia, a Christian saint martyred with Anesius

and also
Corniglia, one of the five villages in the Cinque Terre, Italy

which can correspond to the 5 point star on the key itself. Which to me, would indicate that the next clue could be found in this area by looking for the S, and the 5 point star.

Cheers,

Camain

[edit on 31-12-2007 by camain]



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 12:25 PM
link   
My personal interpretation.
Maybe the key is in fact not something, but someone.
While the key could be the Pope who is the only one who can actually appoint a new Holy Roman Emperor. The door/lock could in fact be someone to claim the empty seat of the old Holy Roman Empire, opening up a door to a new era or to an old era forgotten.
I dunno why I came up with that.



posted on Dec, 31 2007 @ 01:50 PM
link   

All the answers have of yet not been fully recorded...in writing. They exist in the mind which resides in the right paw of the Great Sphinx; not a physical place but rather an entity as a channel.


The wisdom you speak is light years ahead of most people. Do not ever be discouraged to speak the wisdom that does exsist within us all.


Matthew 10:26 "Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.




new topics

top topics



 
11
<<   2 >>

log in

join