Planet X : 2008 not 2012

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posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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FYI......i have not ruled out the possibility that planet x (nibiru) exists.

there is some circumstantial evidence that it may exist. there is no undeniable proof that i am aware of........so for me the odds of it actually existing are 60-40........60.non belief....40. i believe ...there are alot of things out in space that we dont know about or understand so to rule it out completely would be foolish, IMHO

science.nasa.gov...
NASA - 10th Planet Discovered


paranormal.about.com...
Is Nibiru Approaching?


the nasa sighting in 1984 has been debunked, so that argument is null and void as far as i am concerned.........click on the iras sighting in this link

www.badastronomy.com...
Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Misconceptions: Planet X




what i dont believe is anything that zeta talk says................you can come up with all the "white lie "conspiracies you want ...but to me this is all fantasy for the internet .

www.skepticalmind.com...
The Skeptical Mind : ZetaTalk, The Grand Conspiracy 1995 - 2003

















[edit on 5-1-2008 by easynow]




posted on Jan, 5 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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i would also like to say.....there is no way anyone can predict if or when this px could show up.........

there is another thread in this forum that says it will begin its first phase in 2009........but you say its gonna be 2008......... another thread says 2012.



the problem with these predictions are numerous................there is no scientific reasoning to accommodate these claims.

the idea of someone channelling conversations with aliens to arrive at these predictions is mindless entertainment.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 01:16 AM
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lol you guys are funny. The look on your face when you see PX in the sky will be priceless.


Here is the latest news:

Last week on the newsletter we discussed Planet X being captured on one of the LASCO C2 satellite images, on the right hand side of the Sun and with its tail wafting to the left. If the tail were wafting left, this would place it in front of the LASCO cameras. And this is exactly what emerged on New Year's Day! On that day, someone noticed a large orb in the lower left quadrant of a satellite camera that floats 21º ahead of the Earth in her orbit - called the Stereo Ahead satellite. Mercury was crossing the line of view of this satellite, crossing behind the Sun and moving right to left in the view. The position of the large blob was the correct position for Mercury as seen from this satellite camera.

But unlike the normal appearance of a passing planet, that appearance being a bright spot on the film, Mercury changed in appearance, became dull rather than bright, increased in size, and appeared to be rotating in a dust cloud wrapped around it. This generated a great deal of discussion on the GodlikeProduction message board. The object indeed had tracked across and just below the Sun as Mercury was expected to do from view from the Stereo Ahead satellite. But the change in appearance left many unconvinced that it was indeed Mercury. The discussion ranged from ascribing the dull, large object to be asteroid 1685Torror (which was not yet in front of the cameras), or Jupiter (which had passed from view days earlier, moved off to the right hand, and should also be bright in any case), some sort of new planet ejected from the Sun, or a large mothership. Someone claiming to have had a discussion with JPL even claimed this huge blob to be a star, though stars are bright pin-points on the LASCO images. But in that this object had tracked as expected for Mercury, appearing on the right hand side on December 22 and leaving on the left hand side on December 31, Mercury seemed to be the logical candidate. But why so dark and diffuse? And why the increase in size?

The orb presumed to be Mercury does not have the traditional aspect of passing planets. It appears too large and loses its light halfway through the transit. What kind of dust cloud could be obscuring the view of Mercury and diffusing the light so it looks too large? What kind of dust is swirling in front of the light from Mercury that it appears to be rotating in place? The asteroid 1685Torro was thrown out as the explanation but likewise is not in the field of view per official orbit diagrams. Nor did the attempt from a NASA stooge to claim it as a star gain any advocates. What was discovered were many moon-like objects, reflecting light from the right hand side of the Sun. What is that light source? Clearly it is the object that was reflected on a December 23 LASCO image, an object with a tail drifting to the left, showing that the tail debris would logically be drifting left to be in front of the SOHO cameras. Their presence, so very much in the direction of Earth, presages another phenomena that will soon be evident to all on Earth. About this we will say little, in keeping with our desire to have the establishment discombobulated so the cover-up splits wide open like a rotten melon, spewing the truth about so broadly that it cannot be quickly dismissed.

What was discovered were many moon-like objects, reflecting light from the right hand side of the Sun. What is that light source? Clearly it is the object that was reflected on a December 23 LASCO image, an object with a tail drifting to the left, showing that the tail debris would logically be drifting left to be in front of the SOHO cameras. Their presence, so very much in the direction of Earth, presages another phenomena that will soon be evident to all on Earth. About this we will say little, in keeping with our desire to have the establishment discombobulated so the cover-up splits wide open like a rotten melon, spewing the truth about so broadly that it cannot be quickly dismissed.

Where is this leading? We have hinted that the drama is not yet over. We have hinted that earthquakes will be involved, and things seen in the skies. We are not allowed by the rules to be precise in our predictions, so cannot warn mankind of coming dangers. Regarding anything that would tend to prove the existence of Planet X and cause the cover-up to split open, we likewise do not want to clue the establishment into what that might be, as we want them to stumble. We want the participants in the cover-up to be frightened and blurt out the truth or fail to maintain the cover-up so that holes in the story line are obvious. Beyond this, it is leading to more severe Earth changes, which we have been predicting since the start of ZetaTalk. Diasasters will become so common they will no longer hit the news, and may not even be locally reported. Emergency management teams will be exhausted, and may not even notice a change in leadership in the White House during this time - Pelosi or Gore in the Oval Office at long last. These disasters, increasing at what seems an exponential rate, will morph into the last weeks we have so carefully detailed. And then the pole shift!
During the discussion on Mercury's odd appearance in the Stereo Ahead images, many small moon-like objects were discovered. These had a different appearance from the stars which sometimes appear in these images. These moons were large and illuminated on one side only. If Planet X is to the right of the Sun, then one would assume that the moons of Planet X being captured in these images would be illuminated on the right hand side, with light from a source to the right hand side and closer to the Earth than to the Sun. And this proved to be the case. These moons showed up in more than one Stereo Ahead image type, in more than one light wave length. The moons in the tail of Planet X are not next to the Sun, but are between the Stereo Ahead camera and the Sun.

ZetaTalk: Mercury's Shroud



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 06:21 AM
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" some sort of new planet ejected from the sun or somekind of mothership "


your the one thats funny.............


www.badastronomy.com...
Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy: Misconceptions: Planet X and SOHO Images





[edit on 6-1-2008 by easynow]



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by CanadianVandal
lol you guys are funny. The look on your face when you see PX in the sky will be priceless.



The only thing, that really is funny, is how in one year you're gonna be using the same LOLs to convince yourself of a new date.

I wonder what you will be putting in your videos then. Are you even going to mention you were wrong before?

Or is it gonna be another white lie, only perpetuated by Nancy TM (The Messiah), to influence the US elections?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 09:18 AM
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This "Planet X" - has it been here before?

And if so, how do you explain the stability of our orbit, the stability of the sun and the stable inner solar system?

I mean...a brown dwarf...thats got to have some mass, right?

Even if its a planet - thats got to have some mass?

Objects of significant mass have gravitational fields...don't they?



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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Do not ask Zeta and the Nancies any scientific questions neformore. The response you will get will make your ears bleed and make your IQ drop 50 points.



posted on Jan, 6 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
This "Planet X" - has it been here before?

And if so, how do you explain the stability of our orbit, the stability of the sun and the stable inner solar system?

I mean...a brown dwarf...thats got to have some mass, right?

Even if its a planet - thats got to have some mass?

Objects of significant mass have gravitational fields...don't they?





hi there neformore....

nobody really knows if planet x...exists or if it was here before. some theorys say that it is named nibiru and only comes around every 3600 or so years.

it could be a planet or a brown dwarf i guess ?......im not saying it exists...but if it was here before i would think 3600 years would be enough time for the planets near earth to restabilize thier orbits ?...i dont know...just guessing.

here is a video about brown dwarfs or a second sun...
www.youtube.com...
YouTube - The Kolbrin Bible: Could we see Two Suns? part 1


here is a video of what they want you to believe is gonna happen..
www.youtube.com...
YouTube - Brown Dwarf Animation

and here is another brown dwarf....i like this one the best.
www.youtube.com...
YouTube - My very cute dwarf



[edit on 6-1-2008 by easynow]



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 03:58 AM
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I know what a Brown Dwarf is. I also know the "history" of the supposed "Planet X"

My point is this. If its been through the solar system before, and passed by earth, we wouldn't be here, the inner solar system wouldn't be as stable as it is and - if it was a brown dwarf, the sun more than likely would not be as stable as it is.



posted on Jan, 7 2008 @ 05:00 AM
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Planet X is 1400ft wide and made entirely of rubber.

I know this because the fluffy pink bunnies told me - and unlike the Zetans, the fluffy pink bunnies never lie.

So, what's there's to worry about? Even if Planet X hits Earth, it'll just bounce off again!

I defy any Planet X believer to prove me wrong!



posted on May, 17 2008 @ 06:50 AM
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Sorry I know this is quite an old thread but I couldn't stop laughing when I read that and watched those videos. Beanbag Man?
Nancy Lieder is off her rocker without a doubt. I also seem to recall that when the Hale-bopp comet came around back in 1997 she refused to go out and see it because she was convinced it did not exist! Here is some info from Phil Plait of BadAstronmy.com:


Do you remember the amazing comet Hale-Bopp that graced our skies in 1997? I sure do. It was the brightest comet in decades, sporting a tail visible to the unaided eye, and was seen by billions of people. Billions minus one, evidently, for Ms. Lieder refused to go out and see it. Why? Because she claimed, as channeled by aliens, that Hale-Bopp did not exist! Here is a quote from her that was posted on the Usenet newsgroup alt.alien.visitors:

The Hale-Bopp comet does not exist. It is a fraud, perpetrated by those who would have the teeming masses quiescent until it is too late. Hale-Bopp is nothing more than a distant star, and will draw no closer.

Now, you can find this quote on her website in her archives. The interesting thing is that on her site, the first two sentences above have been edited out! She claims in numerous places that her predictions are never wrong. I guess if she goes back and edits them, then she can make them right after the fact. This, to be blunt, is cheating. You can also read more odd statements made by Ms. Lieder stored in Google's archives (and the original quotation from her about Hale-Bopp is also in the Google archives.

So, Ms. Lieder claimed that (the to her nonexistent) Hale-Bopp was a distraction, a part of a disinformation campaign by Those In Charge so that the teeming masses wouldn't worry about Planet X. Guess what: she was wrong! The comet did indeed pass us by in 1997, and was seen by more people than any comet in history. As I said, though, Ms. Lieder herself didn't view it. You can read the whole story here. It's pretty funny, actually.
www.badastronomy.com...


Seriously, anyone who believes in the drivel Ms. LIEder spouts out is just as demented as she is. This CanadianVegetable character is no exception. A visit to his YouTube channel is enough to convince any rational, logical thinker that he/she has been brianwashed into believing such nonsense. A good example are his/her videos about "Planet X Dust", where he/she uses videos and pictures of sunsets and is convinced that the red/orange color is some sort of "Dust" falling from Nibiru!

He/she also blames EVERYTHING that happens in the world on this mythical planet, such as earthquakes, bad weather and swarms of frogs! Oh and of course "Chemtrail" spraying to block the view of Planet X!

YouTube channel
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The sunset "Planet X Dust" videos
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I also have to say to you CanadianVandal, that anyone who parrots the work of Nancy LIEder is just as much a fraud as she is.

[edit on 17/5/08 by Agent Venom]



posted on May, 18 2008 @ 12:04 PM
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If 2008 is the year, it would mean that its between this very day and 7 months from now.
If that were to be true we would have seen a giant giant planet already, with the naked eye, causing chaos and panic.

We dont see #, so i dont believe this.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 01:53 PM
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PLANET X ISNT A PLANET , BUT A HUGE SHIP, THEY WILL COME HERE TO TAKE ALL OF US THAT THEY WANT.TAKE ALL THEY NEED AS FOR GOLD AND DIAMONDS.



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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your reply is as ridiculous as his post is

two sentences and no light to shed on the matter but an opinion?



posted on Jul, 15 2008 @ 07:56 PM
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Ugh, not another one of these planet x deals. For the millionth time people, I'm pretty sure that we would all SEE A GIANT PLANET COMMING FOR US. -.- The fact that it would travel from waaaaaaaay out past pluto, past all our planets and astroids and the belt, without getting seriously muffed up by gravitational pulls, slim to none. Not to mention, how would a planet defy the effects of gravitational pull? You cant claim the orbit of a giant planet takes it out past pluto, and back around through the earths orbit. Something of that sclane would have raped our solar system the first time it came around if it exsisted by pulling other planets into it, and more than likely crashing into our sun. This theory has so many holes in it i could grate cheese.



posted on Jan, 29 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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