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reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 08:35 AM by Randomdam
reply to post by xnibirux


Im sure this website is the very same one that was fuelling this story about 5 years ago when Mark Hazlewood's book was out. It was then due in 2004 i think, i guess they'll keep this up until they're right.
I think the URL is different but the background, page layout and references are the same, I think some of the articles are too, i can't bring myself to spend time on it again.

I would like to know more about this, but when most of the references orignate from this link or zetatalk, im wary


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 12:44 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by enigmania
Some people seem to get sick of these threads, that have no proof, and are about prophecies of doom.

Personally, the main thing that bothers me is that this whole planet x thing has been stated as fact. My thought is that if you're going to state it as fact, you should be able to support it with facts.

I don't nessecarily believe them myself, but the thing that annoys me, is the fact that people react with ridicule and point out all the prophecies that didn't come true in the past.

Isn't that a good indication that they're not really reliable?
If you knew that a certain TV manufacturer had made 90% of their TV's very poorly in the past and their new TV just came out. With their previous track record, are you now more or less likely to purchase their TV?

Surely nothing can happen to us, right?

This is a very general statement. Of course at some point, there is going to be something big that will happen (eruption of super-volcano, asteroid impact, war, etc... Now will planet x destroy us? It can't if it doesn't exist, can it?

I call it arrogance.
Just because the last few thousand years were pretty stable, and no prophecies came true, doesn't mean that we, as mankind, aren't facing cataclysmic events.

We very well could be but not from planet x.

In fact, we are long overdue.

Just curious but what is your reasoning for this?

People look at this tiny little piece of the Earths' history we live in, and dismiss the possibility of disaster, while throughout Earths' whole history, these events have happened frequentlly.

I don't really think people are denying that a disaster could happen, just the planet x disaster.

The dinosaurs were wiped out
YES
, the Atlantis civilisation was wiped out,

There is no evidence of this.

there were ice ages, meteor strikes
YES

and poleshifts,
There was one pole shift 800 million years ago and the shift took 20 million years to happen.

why couldn't it happen to us?

It could at some point but that doesn't mean planet x exists.


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 01:47 PM by Brother Stormhammer
Originally posted by xnibirux
This is my back up guys, it's an article in which all of the information can be found in the book titled "The Return of Planet X". I happen to actually own the book and just finished reading it. Astounding!


A few questions, if I might be so bold?
1) How is it that something is simultaneously 'hiding behind our sun' (even though it occasionally peeks out enough to masquerade as a sun dog), and approaching Earth at such an angle as to be only visible from Antarctica?

2) How is it possible that this approaching object is only visible from Antarctica, regardless of its ability to 'hide behind the sun'? Why can't observatories located well south of the equator see this thing?

3) Even if we can't see this approaching Brown Dwarf (something I find hard to believe, given that it would be one of the fastest moving objects in the local sky), why aren't we seeing the effect of its gravity on things like communications satellites and GPSS constellations? Speaking of constellations, how are we missing the 'gravitational lens' effect of a stellar mass in our immediate neighborhood?


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 02:54 PM by tangent45
reply to post by VelvetSplash


The Mayan calendar ends 21th december 2012, it also coincides with a "solstice" of our solar system when all planets will line up with the center of the galaxy. It's a 26.000 year cycle.

Listen to Whitley Strieber interview for example.
www.youtube.com...

Cheers


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 03:05 PM by lee anoma
Originally posted by greeneyedleo

Im just not sure why people think YouTube is a reliable and factual source.
Anyone can produce some video and upload it there. And most videos are so cheesy IMO.

Soooooo


Hello,

I believe you miss the point here Leo. Yes you are correct that anyone can produce a video , even a "cheesy" one as you say but the facts of possible evidence of a large object in our solar system that can have an affect on our own planet go beyond the amateur director.

Planet X - Is it Really Out There
US News World Report
September 10, 1984

"Shrouded from the sun's light, mysteriously tugging at the orbits of Uranus and Neptune, is an unseen force that astronomers suspect may be Planet X - a 10th resident of the Earth's celestial neighborhood. Last year, the infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS), circling in a polar orbit 560 miles from the Earth, detected heat from an object about 50 billion miles away that is now the subject of intense speculation."

USNEWS REPORT (article scan)


Possibly as Large as Jupiter; Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered
Washington Post
Friday, December 30, 1983

A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite.

'All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is,' said Gerry Neugebauer, chief IRAS scientist.

WASHPOST (planetx.com)


Yet you do, right? Why because you say so? It's on Youtube? Your doomsday calendar is full?

I think dismissing the related scientific information because someone placed it on Youtube.com with a "sooooo" is a bit premature and immature. At the very least it is a weak argument, and I know debunkers of the idea of another planet in our solar system (which is far from odd) have done better.

By that reasoning, if I posted any of the debunker theories and videos on Youtube.com they too would become instantly irrelevant and we could end this whole debate right now. Sorry but in my opinion we have barely begun to discover the mysteries of space let alone fully understand our own place on earth in relation to the universe.

The producers may have their own take on this, but the facts of a massive unknown object are all there. I don't know or agree with the timing of any sort of doomsday event or prediction but I do know that as scientific theories change, expand, or evolve and new discoveries are continuously made, the case is obviously far from closed.

The ONLY reason this thread should possibly be in Skunkworks is because of the predicted date of an impending disaster that the OP placed in the thread title and NOT because of the fact that is mentions an unknown massive object that IRAS scientists claims is actually out there.



- Lee

Edit: my wording


[edit on 30-12-2007 by lee anoma]


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 03:35 PM by yahn goodey
reply to post by CanadianVandal


please dont think i'm trying to be rude or make fun----the catholic church changed the calendar back in the 6th century ad---the monk that worked out their change is dionysius exiguus-----he/they advanced our present day worlds calendar by 4 years--when their 2012 gets here it will be the real 2008 going by the true calendar up to their present change forced on all of us.for example--what we think is 2008 coming now will actually only be the real 2004.


reply posted on 30-12-2007 @ 03:46 PM by jfj123
reply to post by CanadianVandal


Here is what I found in the video
planet x orbits every 3657 years. Other videos say 3630, 3600,etc.. who is right? All videos claim to be right but they all can't.

The video next says the last pole shift occourred during the jewish exodus. If the exodus did indeed happen, the following dates have been claimed from a number of sources
1134 BC (3142 years ago)
1260 BC (3268 years ago)
1476 BC (3484 years ago)

This is actually irrelevant as the last pole shift happened 800 million years ago and it took 20 million years to happen.


Recent work by scientists and geologists Adam Maloof of Princeton University and Galen Halverson of Paul Sabatier University in Toulouse, France, indicates that Earth indeed rebalanced itself around 800 million years ago during the Precambrian time period.[8] They tested this idea by studying magnetic minerals in sedimentary rocks in a Norwegian archipelago. Using these minerals, Maloof and Halverson found that the north pole shifted more than 50 degrees — about the current distance between Alaska and the equator — in less than 20 million years. This reasoning is supported by a record of changes in sea level and ocean chemistry in the Norwegian sediments that could be explained by true polar wander, the team reports in the September–October 2006 issue of the Geological Society of America Bulletin.[9]

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

source
en.wikipedia.org...

The video goes on to provide NO evidence of what it claims.

This is just one more video that is all bark, no bite. Completely unsubstantiated claims.
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