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originally posted by: jimbo999
reply to post by NeverWalkAlone
All the 'prophets' ever did was no different than what Nostrodamus and others of his ilk did. Just because they claimed 'God' talked to them - well, sorry, there are institutions for people like that today. Many mass murderes also claim 'God' told them to do it...
My understanding iss that most of Nostrodamus's 'predictions' have been proven false again & again in relation to modern history. Just like the 'Revelations' in the Bible, they are all about the historical period they were written in - and have zero to do with modern history.
All this superstition can make one blind to the realities of the world. Forget 'prophesies' and 'predictions' as they are all nonsense. Ths is the 21st century folks...
originally posted by: Ridhya
I dont know where you read about the whole Mohammed/Blue turban/Arabia quatrain but I've never heard of that in my life and I have 3 books on Nostradamus. He does however say that the Third will be European (I have heard Northern european often) and that he will lead the coalition of nations. NOWHERE has it said he would be Muslim.
Based on your xenophobic bigoted racist posts Im going to chock it up to disinformation on your part. The lot of you. I dont get whats with all your anti-Muslim hate speech. Wait, you dont do that? What about
A little overbearing dont you think? Muslims are no more warlike than anyone else and no more peaceful than anyone else. To group them all like you did is folly.
Now all of a sudden Islam isnt valid and all Muslims worship Satan? Are you kidding me? You have the same mentality as the people who started the Inquisition. They're different so they must be devil worshippers. They're beneath us!
Yeah, because that doesnt describe you at all
You're indoctrinated into thinking all Muslims are war-mongering evil devil-worshippers and that only your god, ahem, the "true" god is Holy. You gotta be kidding me! Take a look in the mirror before you speak.
And why is it when, for example, the Jews say Christianity is blasphemous worshipping Jesus Christ you're all up in arms, but then go on to slander another group in the exact same way, thinking you're better than them?
People like aleon, DenyAll Knowledge and The Walking Fox are in the right direction. Just take it as it comes. You're causing things to happen by inciting hatred against other groups. Seriously. And if you're going to make presumptions shove your personal prejudices aside already.
The first two anti-christs had some ridiculous parallels, theres no reason to say the third wont. Check out their birthdays (check how I know this), military careers, ranks, rulership, woundings, 'signs of divinity' as Hitler put it... they are remarkable. Try to throw something not biased in there willya.
originally posted by: Ridhya
reply to post by Tentickles
Well you see Im a little frustrated from this.
I havent read ANYWHERE from all my readings of Nostradamus that the Third antichrist would be a Muslim. So as far as Im concerned this is just to inflame hatred.
Second, if he just said "the next will probably be Muslim" yes that is his opinion, but later (read the comments) he and others go to compare Islam to Satanism and bull# like that... its only purpose is to rally people against them, far as I see it. People need unity, not separation, as they would have it.
Third its rhetoric like this that causes people to self-fulfill prophecies. Like Joel's Army and scary things like that. Hate speech that leads to paranoia and pre-emptive strikes.
I feel like the only person defending Muslims and Im not even one.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: runetang
A couple things here. You can read almost anything you want to into Nostradamus's predictions, they are very very and terribly vague and as such can literally mean almost anything you want them to mean.
so I would like to see the actual words of Nostradamus in relation to this supposed prophecy.. I just want to read what he actually said..
can you find that for me please?