Originally posted by runetang
Are you referring to the "beast" that "comes from the sea" with the 7 heads when you speak of this head wound? Would you be so kind to point me to
the exact verses of Revelation speak about this? I must've forgotten since I read, or misinterpreted it when I did.
No, it is in the Old Testament. It specifically says he will be blind in one eye and his arm will be "withered." The context compares the good
shepherd (Jesus- who the people rejected) to the bad shepherd (the Antichrist- who the people will accept) and this is what it says about the
Antichrist or the "worthless shepherd:"
"Woe to the worthless shepherd, who deserts the flock! May the sword strike his arm and his right eye! May his arm be completely withered, his right
eye totally blinded!" Zechariah 11:17
Of course this might not be literal but it is interesting nonetheless. Here
is a link to the
description of the Dajjal being blind from the Islamic Hadith (scroll down to Islam's Description.
I don't know what to think about the Islamic end time prophecies. They state that the Mahdi AND
Jesus (Isa) will both be on the Earth
I agree, Islamic eschatology is a little strange but what compounds the problem is that the Al Mahdi prophecies are not in the Koran but in the
Hadiths (Islamic commentaries and supposed sayings by Mohamed). But still, this could possibly allude to the false prophet. Remember, the Antichrist
in the Bible is to be accompanied by a false prophet. This "pseudo-Jesus" could be the fulfillment of this. The false prophet is also described as
looking like a lamb (a symbol of Jesus) but he has horns and out of his mouth comes blasphemies (meaning he looks like Jesus and seems to be like Him
but his actions and message prove otherwise)
We know as Christians that Jesus does not share his throne with anyone and He warns us to turn away from anyone claiming to be Him or another Messiah.
It's possible this Al Mahdi and false Jesus are the Antichrist and false prophet.
Not only that, but Muslims believe that Jesus (Isa) will "break the cross" when he returns and command all Christians and Jews who would then
recognize him as Messiah to submit to Islam as the true teaching! Isn't that wild? The Mahdi is supposed to be like a "tag team partner" almost as
it is written with Jesus, both taking on the "Dajjal" or Antichrist together. Lol.
Very interesting. We are told in the Bible that the Antichrist does turn on the false prophet (or if this is the case, the false Jesus) and that the
false prophet also doesn't claim power for himself but points it all to the Antichrist. The similarities are amazing. Something to watch out for in
the future. Jesus warned us in advance the deception would be so great that it was possible even the very elect of God would believe it if it were
But I write this to emphasize that no matter what happens, Jesus and Mahdi cannot be the same, single being. There has to be two according to
Absolutely correct. Personally, I think the rapture would happen first so we won't be here to see this take place but the warning is for those alive
on earth at the time.
I do strongly suspect Mohammad to be the "False Prophet" spoken of in Revelation. I think Osama bin Laden could qualify as the
"Messenger from the Bottomless Pit", but Im not sure.
As I stated above, I think there are many false prophets (Jesus warned us of this too) but that the Antichrist and false prophet mentioned in the Old
and New Testaments are going to be two specific individuals.
There isn't much said about the false prophet other than he can perform false signs and wonders, directs all worship to the Antichrist, and is later
tossed aside by the Antichrist but from what I know of the Antichrist he will:
1) Rule for seven years (the length of the tribulation).
2) Come out of the European Union and is possibly an Arab (the prophesied Revived Roman Empire already in existence).
3) Head a one world government (all signs point to this being imminent)
4) Declare a one-world religion and puts all unbelievers to death (though this is a tenet of Islamic Extremism it doesn't necessarily have to be
5) Later discards this religion and declares himself to be god.
6) Commit the abomination of desolation in the future Jewish temple (most Jewish artifacts have already been created and are ready to go for the
future temple prophesied in the Bible)
7) Will appear to be wounded or dead but somehow recovers
8) Orders the mark of the beast (possibly some form of chip used for identification and economy and of course the technology already exists)
9) Will sign a seven year peace treaty with Israel but will renege on it in the middle of the seven years (where he will corrupt the temple as
10) Possibly be blind in one eye and have a withered arm.
11) Will pretend to be religious but later the truth comes out that he is too conceited to ever worship anyone else. We are told he worships a "god
of fortresses unknown to his fathers" which may mean he trusts his own military might over any deity
12) Control a world economy and monetary system (the technology already exists and all world markets are so closely intertwined as is).
13) His governing center will be in Babylon (which was believed to be metaphorical until Saddam starting rebuilding the city and the construction is
now being continued by others after his death).
14) Will not long for women. Not that he will necessarily be a homosexual but basically that he is so preoccupied with his new system and himself to
even bother with a wife or family.
That's just a few. Of course, the Al Mahdi and the Antichrist being one and the same is just a hunch. Islam could just be a likely candidate so could
the Roman Catholic church or some other new unified religious belief system. Time will tell.
[edit on 12/29/2007 by AshleyD]
[edit on 12/29/2007 by AshleyD]