Explosion heard at Bhutto rally (Bhutto Killed)

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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Everyone is speculating on who had the most to gain and who didn't.

Does it matter?


No one claimed responsibility for the attack. But some of Bhutto's supporters at the hospital began chanting, "Killer, Killer, Musharraf," referring to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Bhutto's main political opponent. A few began stoning cars outside.


People are settling on Musharraf being the one, and he could very well have been behind it.

But this is one of those times where opinion means more than fact. This is one of those times when opinion will influence action. Fact won't matter. Opinion will spark rallies, protests, and riots in Pakistan. Those riots and protests will result in a state of emergency and an even worse military rule than is already in place.

If this spills over in to India, there will be war.

Who did it and why is important if you want all the facts, but it's not essential in determining whether or not this will escalate. It has the potential to escalate in to something major; something beyond Pakistan's borders.

A few riots could lead to a regional war, unfortunately. And with this instability leads to the risk of Pakistan's nuclear weapons falling in to the wrong hands. At that point, it's a global problem.

I don't mean to jump to conclusions and throw out all this wild speculation about what is to come, but it's important to realize what exactly could come of this event. It's definitely not good.




posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
It's obvious Musharraf is behind this
[edit on 27-12-2007 by infinite]


Again, we have to be careful here. There is little obvious about this.

There are a lot of people that have something to gain from Bhutto's death and ensuing chaos, from Islamic terrorists to Sharif. In fact, the only person who has something to lose is Musharraf; he's no fool, and knows that the world would immediately blame him, no matter who was truely behind it (case in point, you immediately blamed him, with no evidence). And, declaring a state of emergency will do nothing but help him lose his grip on the country. This is all bad for Musharraf.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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I just saw footage on CNN of Pakistan and people are trippin. I'm going to go ahead and call it and say civil war is about to happen.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Digital_Reality
I just saw footage on CNN of Pakistan and people are trippin. I'm going to go ahead and call it and say civil war is about to happen.


And who benefits? Musharraf is ousted from power, and the only strong candidate to replace him is Sharif.

Or there is enough chaos the Islamists are able to gain more of a foothold.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:41 AM
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If civil war takes place, what's the new country gonna be called? Bhuttostan?

[edit on 27-12-2007 by TheoOne]



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:43 AM
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The president will be speaking live on TV on another half hour, If I was all of you I will listen to the news carefully because a lot of people are now talking about the US policies or bad policies when it comes to US and Pakistan and how US failure to stop Tali ban on becoming an organized force in that Country.

It will be a lot of finger pointing in Washington now, because the possibility of a civil war in that nation and we all know like infinite pointed out because of their nuclear power, they are more a threat to the world and Israel that Iran ever be if a civil war brakes out, Tali ban is still a force in that nation now that is pro tali ban and supporters of Al-qaida.

Is now talks that nato is going to be on high alert and so US forces in the region.

This going to be very interesting.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:43 AM
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Are you kiddng me!! I just heard the news when signed back in MSN. The Butto Killed headlines was right there in black and white.

Oh there's no such thing of being civil in the Middle East- All they do is kill each other!! Whats wrong with having peace?! I will never figure out people!

Everyone in the Middle East has lost their minds!


I hope all the Islamist extremists get what they want turmoil and war- Then maybe they will all come to their senses!


Anyone who says that Isalm is peaceful- I will not say it here.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:48 AM
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Hey Marg-
Interesting is a understatement- I would say It's gonna get very ugly out there.




posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Leyla


Oh there's no such thing of being civil in the Middle East- All they do is kill each other!! Whats wrong with having peace?! I will never figure out people!

I hope all the Islamist extremists get what they want turmoil and war- Then maybe they will all come to their senses!




Pakistan isn't in the Middle East; it's located in Central Asia.

It's a sad thing to want the Islamists to take over or get their way, lot of innocent people would die.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:50 AM
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Public support in the US for the US Government to authorize military action in Pakistan WILL be there if it looks like Pakistan's nuclear arms are going to be taken over.

Despite everyone's beliefs about things like 9/11, there IS a terrorist force over there. Many of them. They ARE still our enemies. It doesn't matter what you think happened on that day, or why you think it happened. As a nation, it's in our (the US) best interest to keep nuclear arms away from these people. So military action against Pakistan, if that situation ever arises, will be supported in this country.

Think of all the public support against Iran, and there's no real proof they're even attempting to build nukes. But now you've got this country next door that DOES have nukes, and there's the potential that it could lose those nuclear weapons to terrorists? Definite support.

The NATO and US military alert levels being raised is no surprise. I think we'll see military action in Pakistan if it starts to look like Pakistan is falling to the Taliban and Al Qaeda.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:53 AM
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Right because JFK, John Lennon, and Martin Luther King Jr. were all killed justifiably. Or maybe they were killed by Muslims?

Yep. All the bad stuff only happens in the Middle East. All the bad stuff originates from people of the Islamic faith. Everyone else in the world is for peace, they just haven't caught up yet.



Some people.....



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:54 AM
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I don't think we can jump to that conclusion just yet. It seems as though there is a radical element outside of the state that is attacking both sides within Pakistan. In that case, Musharraf is as much a victim as Bhutto. Let's not jump to conclusions just yet.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:54 AM
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All he is going to say is that he condemns the assassination and that he has no more information at this time.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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This is BAD, bad, bad.

If Musharaf is overthrown, it could well lead to the extremists gaining power, and the nuclear weapons Pakastan has.

The person who hoped the extremists would get the war they want perhaps doesn't understand the seriousness of their statement. This whole incident might well have to potential to bring world war or nuclear war.

And what if India was involved?????



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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So, does anyone think Ron Paul will be assassinated next?



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Public support in the US for the US Government to authorize military action in Pakistan WILL be there if it looks like Pakistan's nuclear arms are going to be taken over.

Well, according to Seymour Hersh, there has been a plan for the American military to seize the nukes in the event of an Islamist takeover since 9/11.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Leyla


Oh there's no such thing of being civil in the Middle East- All they do is kill each other!! Whats wrong with having peace?! I will never figure out people!

I hope all the Islamist extremists get what they want turmoil and war- Then maybe they will all come to their senses!




Pakistan isn't in the Middle East; it's located in Central Asia.

It's a sad thing to want the Islamists to take over or get their way, lot of innocent people would die.


They have been doing this long before I was around and I dont need a geograpy lession from you- You think I don't want peace?- Your very wrong.

It is sad that all they want is death and destruction.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:57 AM
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I think it's very possible. I've considered not voting for him just because I think it's pointless. I think if he gets elected, he will be killed.

But if the opportunity arises before then and "they" want a similar situation as in Pakistan, i.e. emergency rule to cancel elections, then killing Ron Paul would be the way to go.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by TheoOne
So, does anyone think Ron Paul will be assassinated next?


We heard you last time! You are in the wrong thread!
This thread is about the assassination of Bhutto not Ron Paul...

Why do you keep asking that?



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:59 AM
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That's not surprising. I'm sure they have plans for any situation imaginable for every country. It would be reckless to not have such plans.





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