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Police academy class slogan: Cause PTSD

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posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 08:21 PM
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Carrying on in the spirit of my previous post, here are some more disturbing factoids, just in case you all are wondering about our incompetence.

ALLEGATIONS AND ISSUES:



The Complainant made the following allegations against Officer #1:3
1. PM 21.0102 Performance of Duty4
Complainant alleged that the officer failed to obtain, or attempt to obtain, a sample of the breath,5
blood, or urine of Suspect #1, thereby failing to perform his duties as a detective.6
2. PM 21.0102 Performance of Duty7
Complainant alleged that the officer failed to secure the clothing that was worn by the Victim8
at the time of his death, thereby failing to perform his duties as a detective.9
3. PM 21.0102 Performance of Duty10
Complainant alleged that the officer failed to perform a thorough and/or objective investigation11
into the homicide due to a bias in favor of Suspect #1.12
4. PM 21.0306 Relationships With Others13
Complainant alleges that the officer made grossly insensitive statements to her during a January14
3, 2002, meeting with her, her attorney, a deputy prosecutor, and a victim/witness coordinator.15
Specifically, the Complainant alleged that Officer #1 told her that her surviving son (the Victim’s16
older brother) faced possible misdemeanor charges connected with the incident. The17
Complainant considered such a statement insensitive in light of the tragic death of her other son18
less than a week before.


What was that!?

Things that make you go.... hmmmm

Take a look at this:
What is interesting to note here is the dramatic increase in complaints and investigative reports from the year 2004 to present, compared to those of 2003 and prior.

But according to the Boise City Council the number of complaints has gone...
down?

All in all, it sounds like there are little (to no) checks and balances in place for those that are here to "Protect and Serve." Paid and full by those working class hero's... and brought to you by your local authority. I have had my own experience with these thugs firsthand, and I am still giving you the benefit of the doubt..... why?
We still are the people, opressed or not.... right? Thanks to the OP for bringing this to light,


remaining in tune,
The Telemetry


(edit to remove bias, and give credit where it is due)
(and to stifle rambling)



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posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 08:50 PM
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It was a stupid slogan and it should have never been printed, but by the same token it should have never been leaked to the media.

Law enforcement agencies looking to the military for recruitment is not new by a long shot and it makes a lot more sense than recruiting from the ranks of social workers.

Besides, my experience is that military personnel have way more scruples than most social workers.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 09:23 PM
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I was in A well known police academy in MO, and I am not sure that would of flew even if the class wanted it.. We did have a slogan.

"We are the wall" meaning the wall between the The bad and the good. I do not agree with this slogan and it should not have been allowed. By the way most ex-military make fine officers. That was a unfounded remark. If it is not I want to see some stats

Also the people we are talking about here are recruits not active Police Officers. First of all the academy should be taking serious heat for allowing this. I have told eyewitness before most PO's I know are there because they felt a calling. Eyewitness does not have to agree with me.

Eyewitness I will listen to what you have to say all day, some of the other here are just deceptive about their past to make some points. It is obvious.

Police Officers are just like any sort Good and Bad. That is unfortunate.



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posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 10:16 PM
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It was a stupid slogan and it should have never been printed,


I agree with the first part of that response... foolish, brainless or just plain dumb yeah... and again I ask... where was the oversight?


but by the same token it should have never been leaked to the media.

I find that quite odd for someone to say that... and slightly angering.

In this instance, is it not the responsibility of concerned peoples to raise interest and spread the word if something is not quite right? Furthermore, Is it not the responsibilty of the media outlets to publish such findings for the populous? I'm not trying to call you out on this, I just fail to see your logic for that satement. I'm all ears.

Are we not here to open the channels of communication or is there some unspoken academy oath that I am unware of?
If it is happening, why suppress it?

Wondering I am,
The Telemetry

(edit due to intoxicated typographical errors)
(too much guinness)


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posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 10:55 PM
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There will always be rotten apples on the tree... but now it seems the tree may be rotting from the roots up.

Number of complaints against BPD for the years: (Boise Police only)
2000: 3
2001: 3
2002: 2
2003: 4
2004: 24
2005: 30
2006: 30

2007: 25
And the year is not over yet.

Source:
www.boiseombudsman.org...

All I ask is that you take a look at the numbers, and do the research yourself. It dosen't take a simple mathematician to see the trend. Mind you that these are only cases that make it through to the mainstream.... so how much more gets swept under the rug?

I'm out for the night.....
I remain,
The Telemetry



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 12:03 AM
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If you want to put a really creepy spin on this article, being just a graduation slogan or what have you, why is it in the news to begin with?
I think they want us to be afraid of or at least in awe of law enforcement, hell take a look at the evening television shows lately, Cops, Scary police chases, Crime Shows, Forensics shows, most wanted shows, bounty hunter shows, true crimes, true investigations, cops cops cops. Look at the news lately, almost daily we see stories of police brutality, tasering of old ladies and kids, and the cops never seem to take a rap on the bean for it. Why is that on the news so much? Why are so many shows about glorifying cops? Do we really think there is so massive a cop loving demographic in this country that it creates such an overwhelming demand for the utter innundation of cop shows, or is it something else?
You guys familiar with the Milgrams experiment?



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by memoir
What worries me isn't that this is the class slogan... but rather that the graduating class chose this and those that did were not filtered out long before graduation. Shouldn't this mind set be filtered out by psychological exams?


ironically, yes. almost everything done in training is used to analyze psychological aspects of each troop/soldier/etc. They can identify depression, aggressive personalities, etc. very quickly and easily. I mean, military training is all about pushing you to your limits, to see what you act like when you don't have the time or effort to bullshh.. (lack of a better word!).

Of course, people with aggressive personalities are not "filtered out" of the military, rather they get on a list to see a special presentation on a smaller career field of other similar crazy people that are all about that rambo stuff (like SERS). I knew more than a few of them. Some were my friends.

edit: Crazy enough, I can't find anything at all on google about the "S.E.R.S." I even tried other spellings, SEARS, SERES, SEIRS, etc. Nothing. That;s really weird. I mean, I was at the presentation, ha. I'm damn sure that's what it was called too. it was for people that were more extreme than rangers, paratroopers, etc. of all the special forces, apparently they were supposed to be the hardcore. i was obviously mis-"filtered," probably because I just bubbled in random dots on a few personality exams.

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 07:14 AM
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I have read through this entire thread and only feel compelled to respond to one comment.



where was the oversight?


Oversight. For the class slogan. A slogan that appears to have no purpose other than to be printed on the graduation schedule. A document that is probably handed to family and friends of the graduating recruits. I dont see any harm in this. It was a joke. In poor taste perhaps, but a joke nonetheless.

Perhaps when you see this slogan printed on police vehicles you can start to worry about where the oversight was.

CT



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 07:48 AM
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SURE!! Its a JOKE!! Lets all laugh now!! If only the people involved with the new piggies saw the horrid slogan and mocked the brave soldiers coming home with PTSD's..implying that they should go out and cause the same trauma to citizens..sick. SICK.

There is NO way to justify these slogans. WHY are they needed? Why not just say. graduating class of 9-2-08 instead of all these gung ho militaristic cheering slogans meant to instill a gung ho kill em all mentality. Brutality comes from just this sort of crap: The recruits see the department approving of this sick crap and so they go out and abuse us and kill us and when they get sued they wonder why all the meanies are stopping them from ' doing their duty '..sickening.

NO MORE STUPID JUVENILE SLOGANS AT ALL !!!!

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 08:17 AM
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I would just like to add that the fall of the Soviet Union had a tremendous effect on the course of our country. The reason that civilian police forces are taking on aspects historically reserved for the military is that, pardon the cliché, the military industrial complex is extending its profit centers and expanding its profit margins to include civilian forces. The Soviet Union kept the United States in check. The Soviet Union was THE enemy. Because of it, profits soared to previously unimagined levels, but then became stagnant. How many nukes and subs can be made just to sustain war games? Actual nuclear war by definition is unsustainable. Apparently, so was a cold war. Vietnam was meant to be a sustained war. Every war fought by the United States since Vietnam has been designed to be sustained. Therefore, obviously, profits continue to mount. No implacable enemy, no profits. The War on Drugs. The War on Terror. Wars that can be fought but never won. 9/11 not only provided the excuse for the War on Terror, it also provided the excuse for the "War on America". All of these wars are meant to be sustained, they can only be sustained because they can never be won. In the 20th century the Soviet Union made America. In the 20th century the Soviet Union, by breaking down and not firing a single shot, led to events that would break America. No more large and implacable enemy.

Watch how the transnational military industrial complex slowly makes the United States of America the enemy of the world. It is already happening. The dupe is that many think of the military industrial complex as being patriotic and showing allegiance to the US. It's not. Why should it be? It's primary duty is to increasing earnings and profits. Militarization of the police force is the first step. Who wants to immigrate to and invest in country where it's ordinary citizens cannot be trusted. "Who wants to face the chance of police brutality?" "What kind of persons can Americans really be to deserve such treatment?" "Remember how America used to be? It's not like that anymore. It's unsafe. Just look at what their police officers do."

Strange how the military and civilian forces are trained to forget that they represent civilians. Military and civilian law enforcement looking down on civilians as the underclass? Is that why those professions are often referred to as noble professions?



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 02:47 PM
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Try typing it in like this and you will find what you are looking for.

S.E.R.E. by the way you should know that not only Spec Ops folks go to this but being an MP you should know so do intel officers, Piolts and some specialist fields. It is not some hardcore secret it is a survival school for people who could end up behind enemy lines. It stands For Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape.

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 02:57 PM
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I understand what telemetery is saying here, I think that OVERSIGHT might be a strong word, but a COMMAND DECISION by the training facility was no doubt in order here. Many people including reporters, City Council Members and Recruiters come to these graduations. I agree with you it was no doubt in poor taste and I do not see it as a joking matter in the least. Law Enforcement Officers have to put up with the type of opinions that you have seen written in this thread and they def do not need any help from colleagues that should have a little foresight into the attitude of their community. Joke, motivational tool or slogan for the handout this should not have been. Period.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 03:12 PM
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I'm affraid that the plan to turn the US Police force into a Para Military force is well underway one has only got to look at recent inmcidents to see how the Police are using their new methods in controling either a crowd or asn individual.

Raoming the streets armed to the teeth dressed in all the gear to intimidate the local populace because its certainly not because of the WOT. A real terrorist would not be stopped by these Fascist thugs for one minute. No this is all about total war for America and the need to control a populace that would revolt. Patriot, interment without trial and all the rest of it, all set up to deal with the people because they are seen as the threat to the plans of those who are running he show.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 04:30 PM
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This is the problem with your and everyone elses hypothesis about the police becoming a paramilitary force. The type of so-called military training law enforcement officers in general receive is not offensive in nature (unless you are a special unit). In specific officers are being more outfitted to deal with active shooters(Schools, Malls, Business Situations), to prevent mobile situations which will lead into larger casualties.

Weapons upgrades are mostly still comp to civilian arms (being semi auto AR's) because of situations like Highway Patrol Officer Lenigar who was gunned down by a White supremicist with automatic weapons as he approached the vehicle. After he was charged with the crime and given a change of venue to protect his rights. His buddies planned to free him from the Court house with a full assault including explosives, created by former military members...so i guess I cannot see where police officers are having to become more prepared to deal with militant situations these days.

Another thing you fail to take into account is do you think people that are police officers are really going to circumvent the Constitution and enforce a police state against the people...I hightly doubt it and so does the Government. That is why FEMA and the CIS model allow for Federal Controls to supercede State and Local Governments and essentially dismiss these Officers and the Fire Chiefs and the Local Emergency Planning groups.

For that fact I doubt many military men and women of THIS Country would enforce a police state against the people......That is why our military is being spread so thin to deal with conficts across the world. Your scenario is most likely going to bring in UN troops to (HELP!) with our problems and these will be the ones that WILL remove weapons(TRY) from the people because that is the only way people will be forced into FEMA camps. Unless the people can be coaxed through some type of fake emergency (like a global warming catastrophe) caused by natural disaster.

Either way I think if this is the plan (A emergency state) you will see police officers and county governments sitting right beside you in your hole or your cage, either way you will be glad you have them there with you because they do have a little training......Think outside the box and up the chain a little bit here

One slogan and were off to the police state, making wild assumptions about people that are just as American as you, and love this country enough to serve it and risk their lives on a daily basis, but they are going to be the ones to take your freedoms away? MALARKEY to all of you that think this way. You need to get out a little more. Perhaps you should go down and visit your local police officers and ask to do a ride along and see what is up...!

By the way MM why don't you go ask Officer Lennigar wife and kids if they think he was prepared enough for what happened to him!

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 07:02 PM
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I am a Board Certified Forensic Psychiatrist (that's MD not Phd), and frequently am asked to evaluate police and security officers of various types for fitness for duty exams (among other evaluations; I also occasionally treat them for PTSD, etc). I've done this for about 20 years. Over the past 4-5 years, I've seen a distinct change from a protect and serve mentality among the older guys who had cops in their families and wanted to emulate a father or uncle, to a new military mentality of "lets kick their butts" (the citizens are THEM or THEY, the enemy); this latter group has the view that they, the cops, are under siege from US citizens, and that citizens have no rights in a police encounter situation; no more than an Iraqi does. They view citizens as having constitutional rights only in the very abstract sense; probably similar to the sense that Iraqi citizens have "right" until the encounter angry troops. This is especially true from the vets coming back from Desert Storm II (and I am a veteran of BOTH DS I and II, as a military Physician). Many of these guys are very disturbed and this is often ignored by police management, of course, until something bad happens.

What we are seeing is the start of a police state not unlike what was seen with 1930's-40 Germany or during Stalin's reign. This will end badly, and, when it's all over, the good cops will be taken out and shot (if not torn apart by angry mobs) right along with the sociopaths and gangsters among them; unless, of course, the good cops can get control. UNLIKELY !! Mark my words.
doctorwork



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
I think they want us to be afraid of or at least in awe of law enforcement, hell take a look at the evening television shows lately, Cops, Scary police chases, Crime Shows, Forensics shows, most wanted shows, bounty hunter shows, true crimes, true investigations, cops cops cops. Look at the news lately, almost daily we see stories of police brutality, tasering of old ladies and kids, and the cops never seem to take a rap on the bean for it.


Just the point I was considering making and right on the money.
You can add the videos of torture to your list as well. The people are being intimidated into subservience through these devices, and that's the only purpose torture has ever served. Pain compliance. If that's not Orwellian newspeak I don't know what is.

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Thank you for confirming what seems obvious to those of us with first hand experience with this new breed of cop. It is indeed scary.



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
You guys familiar with the Milgrams experiment?


No, I never heard of it until you posted the name here, so of course I had to look it up.
And post about it here incase others mya have missed your last paragraph.
en.wikipedia.org...

Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.


A lesson in depravity, peer pressure, and the power of authority

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posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 09:51 PM
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Those are some pretty serious predictions for the future.

Have you examined a representative sample of those veterans who become policemen?

Is there any evidence that our Constitution will be rescinded?

Will we lose our rights to a hearing in a court of law or to petition our government?

Is there any evidence that our citizens will elect a fascist government?

Are you saying that all the troops who return from the war are seriously disturbed, or just the ones who become policemen?

Can you cite any medical or psychology journal studies that support your claims?

Are we to take you at your word that you are an MD?

You speak awfully recklessly for someone who has two wars under his belt, four years of college, four years of medical school and an internship. Oh, I forgot the twenty years of practice.

What medical school did you attend?






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posted on Dec, 28 2007 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by yankeerose


I can not even comprehend the mentality that would allow this type of obvious aggression towards society. What ever happened to "To Protect and Serve."

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Protect and serve.LOL what a laugh. Now it's "Punish and Enslave" the public.



posted on Dec, 28 2007 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by birchtree
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S.E.R.E. by the way you should know that not only Spec Ops folks go to this but being an MP you should know so do intel officers, Piolts and some specialist fields. It is not some hardcore secret it is a survival school for people who could end up behind enemy lines. It stands For Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape.



ah, there it is, thanks. I never said it was secret, just weird that I couldn't find anything on it by searching for "SERES." I just had to drop the S. i am full aware of what SERE is. They train all the other special forces. My point was that instead of identifying people with emotional issues, they just put them into career fields that will help exploit their shortcomings with aggression or etc. This isn't speculation either, it's the process.



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