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The Beast Will Deceive

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posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 03:19 PM
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God has told me

This would indicate many souls who think they talk to God but do not, and decieve many.

I dont know about project blue beam, but I do know antichrist might use aliens whom he created through the government to have a false rapture type of thing, when the aliens are actually demons.



" Half truths with falshood "

God created a church. Only one. The bride of christ.

This is in all gospels, and the whole NT, predicted by the psalms and so forth.

Before 1500, the only Church which existed was catholic, thats it. The protestant revoilt was predicted by the NT about the revolt, and all protestant churches were created after 1500.


thats an incredible 1500 years after Christ already made his church which has produced miracle after miracle and saints for 2000 years.

He also said Peter was the rock and that hell would not prevail against it.

It is the one true church of Christ. He also said whatever (you) bind on earth is bound in heaven and loose on earthy is loosed in heaven.


Mean the popes and hiearchy by the holy Ghost can interpret scripture by Gods power, and we cannot on our own.


Thats why there are 3,000 or so sifferent protestant churches, divided against each other and seperated in doctrine while the church remains one.


Any sincere soul can see this.


Read about st Gemma, she was one true angel on earth that was catholic.


peace.




posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 03:26 PM
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May I aks if God literally told you, or is it just by the holy ghost and revelation by reading governemnt documetns?

peace.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

May I aks if God literally told you, or is it just by the holy ghost and revelation by reading governemnt documetns?

peace.


God speaks to my heart and His Holy Spirit gives me the gift of discernment, knowledge and wisdom when interpreting Scriptures. This is how He speaks to all of us.


However, the information I'm relaying in regards to the Tribulation, Rapture and Armageddon and what is required for Salvation was given to me by His Holy Messengers of the Cherubic Order of Angels.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 04:03 PM
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Given me by the cherubim

Yes but God gave that to the Church 2000 years ago, you cannot surely put yourself over the church of God unless you think your a god which is false.

The requirments for salvation are in scripture, and not held by you or I, and are produced by the church and the bread of life.

you will see shortly what I mean when God rebuilds the earth.


and Yes I agree that God speaks to us through holy Ghost which dwells in us, and I know this for a fact, that sometimes I have wisdom, and sometimes I cant think what to write, he brings it to my mind, this happens in person as well.


But dont mistake regina, personal interpretation from inspired.

Many protestants believed that they were inspired like you do, and many have interpreted differently.

Thats why God set up a body to interpret scriputre, to tell us what to take literally and figuratively.

You see the age we are in, is an age that has interpeted scripture how they like, leading themselves into dectruction, and creating many different seperate bodies as was predctied by the bible would happen.


And as for the cherubim, what do you mean you got instruction from them?

If you see spirits, you better test them. Many demons can appear as angels as they did to Gemma and Padre, but they preceived who they were.


peace.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 05:55 PM
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JesusIsTruth, I put myself below everyone else as a servant of our heavenly Father and Christ - not above.


To all others reading this thread and post, please understand that man-made organized religions (Catholicism, Protestantism, Scientology, Mormonism, Baptism etc.) do not play a part in determining whether or not a person will receive the gift of eternal life. What does, is the condition of a person's heart and whether or not they accept Christ as their Savior. Those who believe falsehoods about Christ, cling to their man-made religious belief systems and reject the truth will be marked accordingly by the Cherubic Order of Angels. All people are judged by what is really in their hearts. Those who are not marked for salvation will face judgment and Father's wrath at Armageddon. That is the basis of the message and it is all backed by Scripture. It is available to read, in full, at The Kingdom Message of Salvation

In addition, those who find themselves left behind must understand that the Beast spoken of in the book of Daniel and Revelation (ie governments) will attempt to deceive them. I relay this information not for those who will be Raptured, but for those who may find themselves left behind so that when it happens they may still have a chance of receiving Salvation at the second Rapture.

This is all I have to say on the subject as I must leave it to each individual's heart to discern the truth for themselves. If you are in need of or wish to explore more on this subject I have many avenues in which this can be done. Some, are available via my ATS Profile and others resources I can provide to you via U2U.

I pray that Father's Holy Spirit speak to the hearts of those reading this and lead them to the light of truth so that they may too, have an opportunity at eternal life. Amen.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 06:58 PM
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Who is the beast, is that suppose to be Satan or...?

I say if they already know and God is telling "choosen" people to prepare in advance then what is the point of all of this, it would be akin to WWF wrestling or fixed sports betting (sure for the mass it is entertaining, but the benefactors are few and versed). Once you come to realize the truth you are left betrayed, wanting, and exposed.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 06:58 PM
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Who is the beast, is that suppose to be Satan or...?

I say if they already know and God is telling "chosen" people to prepare in advance then what is the point of all of this, it would be akin to WWF wrestling or fixed sports betting (sure for the mass it is entertaining, but the benefactors are few and versed). Once you come to realize the truth you are left betrayed, wanting, and exposed.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
JesusIsTruth, I put myself below everyone else as a servant of our heavenly Father and Christ - not above.


To all others reading this thread and post, please understand that man-made organized religions (Catholicism, Protestantism, Scientology, Mormonism, Baptism etc.) do not play a part in determining whether or not a person will receive the gift of eternal life. What does, is the condition of a person's heart and whether or not they accept Christ as their Savior. Those who believe falsehoods about Christ, cling to their man-made religious belief systems and reject the truth will be marked accordingly by the Cherubic Order of Angels. All people are judged by what is really in their hearts. Those who are not marked for salvation will face judgment and Father's wrath at Armageddon. That is the basis of the message and it is all backed by Scripture. It is available to read, in full, at The Kingdom Message of Salvation

In addition, those who find themselves left behind must understand that the Beast spoken of in the book of Daniel and Revelation (ie governments) will attempt to deceive them. I relay this information not for those who will be Raptured, but for those who may find themselves left behind so that when it happens they may still have a chance of receiving Salvation at the second Rapture.

This is all I have to say on the subject as I must leave it to each individual's heart to discern the truth for themselves. If you are in need of or wish to explore more on this subject I have many avenues in which this can be done. Some, are available via my ATS Profile and others resources I can provide to you via U2U.

I pray that Father's Holy Spirit speak to the hearts of those reading this and lead them to the light of truth so that they may too, have an opportunity at eternal life. Amen.


Amen.



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 08:38 PM
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I have a problem with this.

It has been addressed in the
A&UFO forums, and, IMO it
should be addressed here.

Noone, and I mean noone
should be allowed to come here,
say "I'm special, I've talked to
God", and then tell others they
are wrong.

If you believe you have spoken
with God, that's fine.

To tell others that what they be-
lieve or don't believe is incorrect...

That is truly the wrong.

Personally, I think anyone can
talk to God.

That's called prayer.

For someone to say God has
"spoken" to "THEM", that's ego-
tistacal.

One of the 10 sins.

Just my 2 cent,
Lex



posted on Dec, 26 2007 @ 11:50 PM
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The "beast" doesn't have control over anyones soul after it leaves their body. Please stop trying to promote fear Regina.

[edit on 26-12-2007 by Shawn B.]



posted on Dec, 27 2007 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron

To all others reading this thread and post, please understand that man-made organized religions (Catholicism, Protestantism, Scientology, Mormonism, Baptism etc.) do not play a part in determining whether or not a person will receive the gift of eternal life.


Our souls are made from God, God can't be killed so how can our souls be killed? God didn't kill Satan and demons, if God didn't destroy them that are more evil then a person can be then why would God destroy a part of God? People are looking for eternal life, but don't know they already have it. The eucharist is a symbol that we have God in us and what is in us is eternal.



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 07:51 PM
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Well I have to say OP, everything you have stated is almost word for word in the book "Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural: The coming Great Deception and The Luciferian Endgame"---LA Marzulli

Ever read it? If not you should check it out. I am not a religious person at all, but I thought quite hard about the possibilities of this book being true.



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by palehorse23
Well I have to say OP, everything you have stated is almost word for word in the book "Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural: The coming Great Deception and The Luciferian Endgame"---LA Marzulli

Ever read it? If not you should check it out. I am not a religious person at all, but I thought quite hard about the possibilities of this book being true.


No, I've never heard of it. I just looked it up on Google and it's not quite accurate in my opinion. Nephilim won't return to earth. Holy Angels will though. Anyway, keep your eyes and heart open and you'll find truth. God bless.



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:36 PM
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Nephilim won't return to earth. Holy Angels will though.


This is what I hate about religion. Why are you right over Marzulli? He is a worship pastor. So you both can't be right. Who am I supposed to believe. According to your religion, you are both false prophets. By definition that is. How can you be so similar yet so different. That, to me, is why religion doesn't make since. If the bible were that true, wouldn't everyone believe the same things? Too open for interpretation. So am I right to say that God only tells certain people what the real truth is? It all makes me want to do this: :bnghd:



posted on Jan, 3 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by palehorse23
This is what I hate about religion. Why are you right over Marzulli? He is a worship pastor. So you both can't be right. Who am I supposed to believe. According to your religion, you are both false prophets. By definition that is. How can you be so similar yet so different. That, to me, is why religion doesn't make since. If the bible were that true, wouldn't everyone believe the same things? Too open for interpretation. So am I right to say that God only tells certain people what the real truth is? It all makes me want to do this: :bnghd:


I'm a Minister as well - and in our service to Father and Christ those within our ministry are not associated with any man-made organized religions. Man-made organized religions are all truths mixed with half truths and lies.

I understand completely your frustration, but I can't tell you to believe me over him because it's up to you to decide. And, it's not my place or what Christ would have done. The KEY though... is opening your heart to Father's Holy Spirit. Pray on it. Receive an answer. Father will speak to you via His Holy Spirit, but your heart has to FIRST be open to it.
May He guide you and bless you and may your heart be open to truth. Amen.

[edit on 3-1-2008 by ReginaAdonnaAaron]



posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
Recently some information was brought to my attention and I’ve decided to do another post on the subject matter. Father is directing me to warn people of what The Beast will do to try and deceive those who are left behind after the first Rapture. The information I’m referring to is called “Project Blue Beam” which is orchestrated by NASA.

Father doesn’t direct you. :shk: You just fall into deception.


Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
Because we have already entered the Great Tribulation, the First Rapture will soon be on its way. Those who have been found faithful (having a good heart condition and acceptance of Christ as their savior) will be rescued from this dying earth.

There is no such a thing as Rapture.


Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
What will actually happen is this: A Rapture Vessel (the symbolic 2nd Ark) will come for those that are to be Raptured with Christ at it’s helm. Those who are Raptured will leave their earthly vessels (their physical bodies), becoming a spiritual body instead and board the vessel. The Rapture Vessel is to be escorted into full view of everyone seeing it in the skies with the unaided human eye. It will be the first sign of the deliverance from hell on earth to those that are faithful. When the Rapture vessel is seen, it is by God’s power that it will be visible to all eyes…regardless of where they live on the planet.

You really have great imagination.


Originally posted by JesusisTruth
Many protestants believed that they were inspired like you do, and many have interpreted differently.

Even you are Roman Catholic [I don’t agree with your all statements about RCC], I agree with it 100%. Yes, so many people claim these days that God revealed them true which we didn’t know until know. :bnghd:



posted on Jan, 9 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

Given me by the cherubim

Yes but God gave that to the Church 2000 years ago, you cannot surely put yourself over the church of God unless you think your a god which is false.



Oh, you mean the "church" that killed others for disagreeing with their theology? :shk: Yeah, that one is really up there, I mean to tell ya. :shk::shk:

[edit on 9-1-2008 by SpeakerofTruth]



posted on Jan, 14 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth

God has told me

This would indicate many souls who think they talk to God but do not, and decieve many.

I dont know about project blue beam, but I do know antichrist might use aliens whom he created through the government to have a false rapture type of thing, when the aliens are actually demons.


Jesus says that His sheep will know His voice.




God created a church. Only one. The bride of christ.

This is in all gospels, and the whole NT, predicted by the psalms and so forth.

Before 1500, the only Church which existed was catholic, thats it. The protestant revoilt was predicted by the NT about the revolt, and all protestant churches were created after 1500.


This is mostly true, but the mitigating factor here was that the wrong spirit took control of the Catholic Church. The Bible was kept from the congregation. It was left up to the priests to tell the ppl what it said.So, from that a lot of wrong doctrine started being taught. Things that were totally against what Jesus tried to teach when He was among us.
When He taught the disciples to pray, He advised, "Our Father." He always pointed to the Father. Never His Mother.
How many times did he warn (and not just Him) against worshipping and praying to statues and graven idols?
Where did He ever say that we were to pray to certain Saints and count rosary beads for forgiveness of sins? Or go to a MAN in a booth and ask for forgiveness, and exclaim, "Hail Mary's?"
I could go on and on, but hopefully you get the picture. The Catholic Church had become very much like the religion of the Saducees and the Pharisees that distressed Jesus. He told them that the outside looked good with all the religious trappings, but inside, they were full of dead men's bones.

Edit: BTW, I do not mean this offensively to anyone. I have many dear and precious Catholic friends who's hearts are in the right place. I just wanted to point out some facts in defense of what the Protestants tried to do, in getting the Bible released back to the public.

[edit on 14-1-2008 by sizzle]

[edit on 14-1-2008 by sizzle]



posted on Jan, 14 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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Just wanted to add that it is my personal belief, that it is not the title of a church, or how pretty of a building, or the number of the congregation or any of these things; But your personal heart to heart relationship with the Almighty Father. I believe that this was the message that Jesus was trying to get across, when He tried to get us to stop seein the Father as a God, and start seeing Him as our Father. Someone that we could have a personal prayer language with.

One other thing; I don't think that the OP is the only one that the Father is sending His message to. She probably is just the first to report it here. As to other children of God reporting something different; that is not that unusual. sometimes we are just not as open at times as we are at other times. It's only been recent that I began to realize that the heavenly beings most likely used a form of space vehicle. I personally believe it to be a divine revelation. As I was searching Scripture when I was lead to certain things that seemed to bear witness with this account.

[edit on 14-1-2008 by sizzle]



posted on Jan, 15 2008 @ 07:17 AM
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Hello sizzle. I am not Roman Catholic, but some of your questions are the same for us Orthodox.


This is mostly true, but the mitigating factor here was that the wrong spirit took control of the Catholic Church. The Bible was kept from the congregation. It was left up to the priests to tell the ppl what it said.So, from that a lot of wrong doctrine started being taught. Things that were totally against what Jesus tried to teach when He was among us.
When He taught the disciples to pray, He advised, "Our Father." He always pointed to the Father. Never His Mother.

There is Church which didn’t change and many forget it: Orthodox Church.


Physical death is not a defeat for a Christian. It is a glorious passage into heaven. The Christian does not cease to be a part of the Church at death. God forbid! Nor is he set aside, idle until the Day of Judgment. The True Church is composed of all who are in Christ - in heaven and on earth. It is not limited in membership to those presently alive. Those in heaven with Christ are alive, in communion with God, worshipping God, doing their part in the body of Christ. They actively pray to God for all those in the Church - and perhaps, indeed, for the whole world.
When we pray to Mother of God to she pray for us in heaven which is practice confirmed in Holy Scriptures.
Another thing: Mary said of herself, "All generations shall call me blessed" (Luke 1:48). So we, Orthodox, in our generation, call her blessed.



How many times did he warn (and not just Him) against worshipping and praying to statues and graven idols?

We use the icons in Church, not statues, but anyway, question is essentially the same.
NOBODY in both Churches prays and worship statues or icons. Please. Praying to icon/statue is great sin. We pray in front of them to Our Father and Jesus Christ not to icons. This is not idolatry. Idolatry is when you claim that icon/statue is god and worship as it. But we don’t do that.



Where did He ever say that we were to pray to certain Saints...

Again, we pray to them, so they pray for us in heaven. Praying for others is very well confirmed in Holy Scriptures, and because saints conformed by they life to be true Christians it is logical to pray to them [so they pray for us in heaven].
How was healed daughter of woman from Canaan?
Matthew 15:22-28
What about Centurion’s servant?
Matthew 8:5-13

There is no doubt that Disciples prayed for each others and for the others:
For this reason, since the day we heard about you, we have not stopped praying for you and asking God to fill you with the knowledge of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding.
Colossians 1:9
Brothers, pray for us.
1 Thessalonians 5:25
Finally, brothers, pray for us that the message of the Lord may spread rapidly and be honored, just as it was with you.
2 Thessalonians 3:1
Pray for us. We are sure that we have a clear conscience and desire to live honorably in every way.
Hebrews 13:18
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
James 5:16

Our pray to saints is justified by Holy Scripture and I clearly showed it.




Edit: BTW, I do not mean this offensively to anyone. I have many dear and precious Catholic friends who's hearts are in the right place. I just wanted to point out some facts in defense of what the Protestants tried to do, in getting the Bible released back to the public.

No problem, but as you saw there are answers.



[edit on 15-1-2008 by Vojvoda]



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