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Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
you should go to a nearby airport (not a major one, but a small one) and you should buy a sectional chart for your area. learn to read it. find where you live, find the flight paths. i guarrantee that you'll see the CONtrails will follow these paths pretty much exactly. also, pick up a copy of the FAR/AIM. you'll learn a lot about aviation regulations.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
No they don't, the point is, I already know the flight paths of both airports in this area, and as I tried to say in my above post, these trails do not correlate with any of the departing or arriving flights into this area...also the altitude seems to be significantly higher. The planes that were making these trails, travelled extremely fast and were significantly higher than the regular commercial carriers in the air.
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
just because the contrails are higher in the air than the planes arrivinga nd departing your aiport doesn't mean that they arn't overflying it to go somewhere else. planes don't stop and land at every airport. i see planes from chicago or further west overflying my house to the east to who knows where? toronto, NYC? who knows... the point is that just because you see planes flying doesn't mean that they are from or headed to a nearby airport.
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
actually, they do. i fly about 8 hours a week, so i know they do. i'm looking at sectional charts all the time, and because michigan weather sucks IFR (instrument flight rules) charts as well. BOTH have flight routes for both comercial and military aircraft.
and just because the contrails are higher in the air than the planes arrivinga nd departing your aiport doesn't mean that they arn't overflying it to go somewhere else. planes don't stop and land at every airport. i see planes from chicago or further west overflying my house to the east to who knows where? toronto, NYC? who knows... the point is that just because you see planes flying doesn't mean that they are from or headed to a nearby airport.
Originally posted by NetStorm
So then can you tell me what this is....
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
Originally posted by NetStorm
So then can you tell me what this is....
no, i honestly can't. it's just an odd cloud formation. where in florida do you live? there's A LOT of military traffic down there. so, it could have been a military jet flying circles at a high altitude.
worldwatcher, do you not want to argue about it anymore in fear i may be right? i mean, how can you say "I know of the paths, don't ask how, just accept that I do" without providing any evidence? i thought a big basis of these forums are to provide evidence to our claims and ideas. people who don't usually get ostracized for not doing so.
and i'm not trying to argue or pick a fight, i just want a friendly discussion/debate. sorry if i come off rude, i just really dislike the "chemtrail" theory. i like to discuss it though, because i'm fairly adamant that it's nothing going on and others are just the opposite.
Originally posted by NetStorm
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
just because the contrails are higher in the air than the planes arrivinga nd departing your aiport doesn't mean that they arn't overflying it to go somewhere else. planes don't stop and land at every airport. i see planes from chicago or further west overflying my house to the east to who knows where? toronto, NYC? who knows... the point is that just because you see planes flying doesn't mean that they are from or headed to a nearby airport.
So then can you tell me what this is....
Taken from the same location..Jan 1 2004 @ 830 am
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
no, i honestly can't. it's just an odd cloud formation. where in florida do you live? there's A LOT of military traffic down there. so, it could have been a military jet flying circles at a high altitude.
Originally posted by NetStorm
No it's not a odd cloud formation...with a hole?
On Jan 1st 2004 SOMEONE skywrote two zeros and USA.
No news reported on it, no aviation sites reported on it, nothing.
My point in bringing this up is,
Skywriting, is done using a chemical correct? Because if it was not a type of chemical, they would not be able to "turn it on and off" to write the letters.
So if skywriting can use chemicals, WHY could it not be possible that the "chemtrails we see are something other than just moisture condensation, or vapor trails or what ever..
I'm not saying that there is an evil conspiracy going on here, I just think that there is a big difference between a contrail (which the ones I have seen, usually extend a small distance from the jet AND vanish as the jet flies.
The other ones do not .
I know HowardRoark will debate my reasoning on this, and that is fine thats why I like to come to this board. And NO this is not photoshopped, I don;t play with pictures except to change their size for uploads, I had to cut out most of the pic just to get this up. I have the entire sequence of the writing...just not enough space..
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
and just because someone write "USA" in the sky doesn't mean it'll get on the news.
yeah, the stuff they spray is a chemical. but all it does is make the exhaust condense easily. that's why they nozels for the spray all are where the exhause for the plane is located.
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
i never heard about that going on in kansas city. all aircraft save military were grounded immediately after 9/11 and anyone else would have been shot down with no remorse. are there any threads on that topic? i'd like to know more about that please.