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REID NOW SAYS IRAQ SURGE HAS HELPED
'...the surge certainly hasn't hurt. It's helped. I recognize that' --- Sen. Harry Reid, 12/21/07
'...this war is lost and that the surge is not accomplishing anything' -- Sen. Harry Reid, 4/19/07
SEN. HARRY REID: Ray, you can't have it both ways. The president said, "Let's send some more troops over there, and that will give the Iraqis the time to take care of themselves." We sent other troops over there, and there are a lot of reasons the surge certainly hasn't hurt. It's helped. I recognize that.
“I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and — you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows — that this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq,” Mr. Reid said.
Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
It's hardly a reversal by the democrats. They promised to get troops out of Iraq if they got elected to congress. They didn't. That's the real reversal.
Golly, that surge has been soooo successful – and things are going just swell. In fact, US soldiers have even been told to treat approaching Iraqi civilians as … civilians!
Originally posted by Styki
I don't see it has a bad thing that the minds of people are changing. When Senator Reid made his first comments it might have been a bit too soon. There were a lot of people saying that the surge was not working back then.
The fact of the matter is that things have changed since then. At that time all of the surge units were not even in Iraq yet. The surge was just starting to get into gear and people were already stating that it was a failure. That was certainly not the case.
I view this as a positive sign though. The less you see Iraq in the news the better things are going for the troops overseas. We all know the saying, no news is good news.
Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by Styki
Yes, it's a good thing that people can change their minds - especially when they've been confronted with the truth. In the case of democrats like Reid, Biden, Murtha, Clinton and Kennedy, however, the problem is that they don't care that they hurt our own soldiers with their "the war is lost" propaganda just as long as it helps further the "ends justify the means" manifesto of the democrat party.
[edit on 12/23/2007 by centurion1211]
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Harry Reid was an ass for saying that, especially at a time when the surge had hardly begun let alone reached it's final numbers. But that's what politicians do, make asses out of themselves because they're a bunch of self serving prigs.
I'm not so sure the troop surge is solely responsible for the drop in violence though. The Mahdi Army started a voluntary cease-fire early this year - March I think - and there's some reports that they were responsible for up to 60% of the violence. There's also the drop in violence in Basra since the UK troops started withdrawing and giving control to the Iraqis.