America was ATLANTIS. -VIDEO, page 2
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reply posted on 10-1-2008 @ 04:55 PM by Harte
Originally posted by Elhardt
Here are some names other cultures located on both sides of the Atlantic used to refer to Atlantis (the great eastern island, or the great western island, depending on what side of the Alantic they were from): Atlan, Aztlan, Attala, Atalaya, Atlaintika, Atarantes, Antilha, Atlantion, etc. As you can see, there's a similarity between names. And since those cultures living in the Americas referred to Atlantis as the great eastern island, that would also seem to indicate that America itself was not Atlantis.

How far should I go with this? Nobody ever called anything "Atlan" as far as I know and as far as I can find out. Aztlan (maybe Atlan is another spelling of this word) was the ancestral home of the nahuatl speaking peoples of the Valley of Mexico (Aztecs, among others,) not some ancient flooded continent, but an area of dry ground surrounded by a marshy lake toward the west.

West from Mexico is hardly the Atlantic.

Since both these so-called names for Atlantis are bogus, and you stated them as if they were true, I'd be wasting my time to go any further, wouldn't I?

The Aztecs left no myth behind about a sunken continent or even a sunken island of Aztlan (or Atlan.)

Even worse, the only references to Aztlan in existence were written after the Spanish conquered the Aztecs:

The primary sources for Aztlán are the Boturini Codex, the Codex Telleriano-Remensis, and the Aubin Codex. Aztlán is also mentioned in the History of Tlaxcala (by Diego Muñoz Camargo, a Tlaxcalan mestizo from the 17th century), as well as Historia Tolteca-Chichimeca. It should be noted that all the documents mentioned above were written (in Spanish) after the Spanish conquest of Mexico.

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Originally posted by IvanZana
Actually your wrong. There is hundreds of stories that speak of a continent that suffered a great flood/tsunami it so happens that it was plato that called it ATLANTIS for it sat in the ATLANTIc.
The Anicent Meso american indian all share the story of a massive flood which flooded their whole continent destroying great city of lights. America.

No, they don't. And, no, there are not hundreds of such stories.

There are a lot of flood stories, but, hey, there are also a lot of floods.

And, all you guys that want to support some silly Atlantis theory by basing it on the similarity of names should try and comprehend this, the Atlantic was named the Atlantic because of Plato's story. It was called "The Western Ocean" when Plato was around.

Harte


reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 07:50 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by IvanZana



I would like to know more about that pre-columbian chinese map (source).

Thank you.


reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 03:32 PM by IvanZana
reply to post by Harte



There are no pyramids in North America. None, that is, that weren't built by contractors in the USA and/or Canada in recent times.


Mabey you forgot that mexico is in North America. Mayans built hundreds of pyramids that can still be visited today.


Peru is in the Americas, they also have unexplainable buildings and some of the oldest structures on earth.








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reply posted on 8-3-2012 @ 09:29 PM by Hanslune
reply to post by HattoriHanzou



Except that, if you accept Plato's story has being real, 'America' doesn't fit the bill


reply posted on 9-3-2012 @ 11:36 AM by mid0night0lamp1111
reply to post by lostinspace



That a good point about the coast of the Pac NW, and well..the Goonies is a top 10 fav moive. Its prob the reason I love to adventure anywhere i go. I lived in SoCal for a while and when I went to Santa Barbara I went to the Chumash (sp) cave paintings. Same shapes, spiral ect as all over the world. But the channels around that are too would've been above water at one point. These cave painting are high up the side of the mountains where people would've retreated from a drastic coast line change. I think a global culture existed before the ice age and these are the left overs, be it the similarities in writing patterns or designs of cave painintgs. Im in AZ for now, and the same things exist here...all over. Denial of a lost culture is foolishness to me.

It's a shame China isn't as..um...noble? as it truely should be. Such a strong rich heritage, but gone astray like most of the world these days. But so many congruancies between ancient Asian cultures and Meso-American culture should prove, even to the laymen like me, that something bigger was happening in the past. Euro-centricism is a plaugue...damn my ancestors original continent & the royalty that has/does stifle humanity.


reply posted on 9-3-2012 @ 11:39 AM by mid0night0lamp1111
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Prob not that good for now. Im not to sure what you mean about the gospels and evangelist though. I dont really think any of the Abrahmaic religions have it correct. While the morals (golden rule, 10 commandments) I think are correct, and some of the history (flood ect). I think they've all been contorted and manipulate to enslave humanity. They are just rife with hatred and hypocracy these days. I mean no disrepect but they seem as half truths to me. But I also have many devout Jewish, Catholic/Christian. Muslim friends are all get along and are top notch human beings....so its perspective and useage I suppose.


reply posted on 9-3-2012 @ 12:06 PM by Hanslune
Originally posted by mid0night0lamp1111
reply to
post by Harte



Prob not that good for now. Im not to sure what you mean about the gospels and evangelist though. I dont really think any of the Abrahmaic religions have it correct. While the morals (golden rule, 10 commandments) I think are correct, and some of the history (flood ect). I think they've all been contorted and manipulate to enslave humanity. They are just rife with hatred and hypocracy these days. I mean no disrepect but they seem as half truths to me. But I also have many devout Jewish, Catholic/Christian. Muslim friends are all get along and are top notch human beings....so its perspective and useage I suppose.


Those religions arose and evolved and reflect cutlural norms from thousands of years ago, where we thought differently, have people used religion for good and bad, yes.

Sorry but the geological, genetic and archaeological evidence against a biblical flood are overwhelming. The evidence for it is anecdotal.....anecdotal is like a Be-2c and factual evidence like a Fokker D-VII, one of them doesn't have a chance


reply posted on 9-3-2012 @ 12:43 PM by mid0night0lamp1111
reply to post by Hanslune



I agree the great world covering flood is most likely anecdotal, i dont believe all land was covered. I do think major hubs of a past civilization are submerged though.

I know very very little about the genetic aspect, I've heard arguments about it from many sides. It might just be above my pay grade and ability to comprehend. Maybe since the idea is crossing my path now I should follow it (any guidance?) The geology alway fascinated me but that too seem to have so many inconsistant aspects. When geologist talk about dating and how the layers are created I get lost. I cant figure out how such distinct layer occur without major events. Its been a few years since I really looked into it though. Ive seen though about entire stands of trees found in dirt standing upright. obvious flood/liquifacation. But so much about science "fact" seems to be about who fund the "facts".

What about the Sphinx was underwater once crowd? Ive seen good proof for yes and no. Both seem to be agenda driven and not truth driven....I dont know, I guess thats why i come to site like this, to gain perspective and narrow opinion down closer to fact.


reply posted on 9-3-2012 @ 02:33 PM by Harte
Originally posted by mid0night0lamp1111
reply to
post by Harte



Prob not that good for now. Im not to sure what you mean about the gospels and evangelist though. I dont really think any of the Abrahmaic religions have it correct. While the morals (golden rule, 10 commandments) I think are correct, and some of the history (flood ect).

There was no flood of "Biblical" proportions.

That is, no great flood.

That's pure... uh... pure... uh um er...
evangelism.

Yeah, that's what it is.

Harte


reply posted on 12-3-2012 @ 06:39 PM by Eniii
reply to post by cormac mac airt



There are places in Peru and Bolivia that are as old if not older than the great known Egyptian cities.
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