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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 06:41 PM by anhinga
reply to post by DaleGribble



...a couple of months ago, this source was ridiculed beyond comprehension and threads forced into the skunk works.... and judging from the OP, the only cited info in this 'article' is the potential impact of a asteroid into Mars, the author of said article tie the Japanese UFO story into "missiles from the dark side of the Moon" and seem to really embellish the overall Mars/Japanese stories. All the site's quotes are usually from "Russian Security Analysts" which imo, start to sound like a delusional person begging for attention.

[edit on 22-12-2007 by anhinga]


reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 06:44 PM by DaleGribble
reply to post by anhinga



yes the astroid ive heard a little about that but not much. i was not aware how ever of the site the info came from. ive been here a while but lately i have been verry busy and not able to enjoy the site as much as i like. but thanks for the info...



reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 07:05 PM by firegoggles
reply to post by jra



Right.I believe in a great deal of theorys and such in the UFO community and I still smell fish.I too want to know where they get the data from? photos clueing one in on the trajectory of a missle luanched from the surface of the moon?
Impoossible...no.
Improbable...yes!
You do realize that Mars is a fer piece down the road from the moon!
And to assume that it's headed for Mars is almost like me throwing a baseball at a star near the moon from earth and say you were pretty sure the ball i threw was heading towards the moon.I mean cmon now.I am pretty open minded but would be elated if you had some backing data to go along with this little gem.
Just my 2 cents as they say...


reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 07:27 PM by Badge01
This is a good example to illustrate a point.

If this is a real event then there is every reason to require more proof and to withhold judgment. IOW, if real, it's not going away, not a
jealous phenomenon as Jacques Vallee (and others) describes some so-called UFO events.

It is the interplay between believers and disbelievers which gives
Thompson's history its "mythic" proportions. Referencing the work
of Carl Jung and anthropologist Paul Radin, Thompson points out
that the Trickster "makes his presence felt in phenomena ranging
from frustrating `accidents of fate,' to `the malicious tricks
played by the poltergeist' to the uneasy coexistence of angelic and
demonic potentials within both individual and collective
unconsciousness." With Trickster, Thompson describes UFOs in terms
of other, perhaps more well-known, mythical figures such as Hermes,
Dionysus and Proteus. Proteus, like Trickster, wraps himself in
ambiguity, and UFOs are nothing if not ambiguous.

This apparent ability of UFOs to change their form in order to
satisfy public expectations has been discussed elsewhere. Robert
Sheaffer, in his book The UFO Verdict, calls UFOs a "jealous
phenomenon"
because this variable aspect serves to prevent
researchers from gaining any significant knowledge of them.


Sheaffer builds on this interpretation, noting that no legitimate
phenomenon exhibits this jealous nature. Jacques Vallee uses
this characteristic to theorize that UFOs are some sort of (sic)
interdimensional beings, whereas Carl Jung postulated this
variability is a manifestation of the collective unconscious.


It's only those 'stories' which are fanciful, or fabricated which seem to require 'quick acceptance'.

I also think it's too soon to dismiss it as a ploy, though there's certainly valid speculation on why Japan might want to use it as such.

2 cents.




[edit on 22-12-2007 by Badge01]


reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 07:29 PM by iohen
Hello there,

lets just think outside the box for a while.

Some of you have comfirmed the asteroid being headed towards Mars from other sources. Please don't get involved in how it has got there, for now.

In the cirmustances that the source of this information cannot be fully trusted, I will only stick with the asteroid theme. I don’t want to brag about Armageddon on Mars or any of that stuff, but a simple possibility of revelation. There are two possible outcomes here (if the story checkes out, of course):

a) The asteroid will hit Mars in the general area where the NASA probes are now located. The chances of a hit are around 75%. The outcome would be a giant dust-cloud hanging in the Mars atmosphere for months/maybe years – read the specs about the asteroid in the source.

Afterwards, when the dust settles down, something important might be revealed to us. Is there really a civilization beneath the surface of Mars? Or will they be forced out of their holes as a result of the incoming asteroid and reveal them selves?

b) The asteroid will swing past and around Mars and head towards Earth, thus no good news for us.

This is all supposed to take place on January 30th 2008. So, if the news checks out, we will know soon enough. Who knows, we just might get lucky this time, or not.

iohen...

...with an open mind an a cat on his shoulder

PS: I was thinking starting a new thread about this, but then realized its not worthwhile



reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 07:35 PM by ArMaP
I had not noticed (because I hadn't seen the article) that this was from Sorcha Faal.

As explained in
this thread, this is, apparentely, a "person" that only exists on Internet pages where her news are posted and her books sold.

Edit: I see now that I was too slow writing my post and KTK had already posted the link for that thread.

[edit on 22/12/2007 by ArMaP]


reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 03:43 AM by srsen
sorry for the double post but i wonder if this could have anything to do with the huge cigar shaped objects orbiting the moon as discussed here

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

When the pics were blown up we found equally spaced areas of higher heat spread across the length of the object. This suggested engine rooms or something similar which would expel greater heat than other areas.

I think it could certainly be related.

[edit on 23-12-2007 by srsen]
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