Originally posted by OrionStars
reply to post by powerdive
I did not see box cutters/utility knives as any type of protective weapon, considering how many people, versed in self-defense, may have been on any
If someone simply said there was a bomb, and people were not shown a bomb, or saw any movement to set off a bomb carried on the body somewhere, or a
remote control device, why would utility knives pose that big a threat to all people on the alleged planes, particularly the men?
Those are some interesting questions.
My thoughts (not quite worth a cup of coffee):
Box cutters were specifically chosen because they were within the FAA guidelines and allowed. Shoot, pre 9-11 couldn't you carry a knife with a blade
less than something like two inches?
Without trying to sound like I am patronizing anyone, I think it's imperative we think through the Rosetta stone of pre 9-11 thinking and what people
may have been thinking while under extreme stress during the actual events.
Some dude on the street threatens you with a box cutter and you open a can of whop *** on him. That's not gonna get much street cred. However, in the
hands of a hijacker, a box cutter could be seen as a formidable weapon to some. Keep in mind each plane had several murders committed with these
weapons as part of the take-over.
Pre 9-11 thinking was give the hijackers whatever they want. And, with good reason. Pre 9-11 most hijackings were symbolic and ended with little
bloodshed. I understand there are some horrible exceptions. But, generally, I think that's a fair statement.
The first three aircraft crashed with the pre 9-11 thinking onboard. That is, IMO, the surviving passengers and crew thought they would be flown to
some remote airport, demands would be made, etc. Before Flight 93 crashed, the surviving passengers and crew were able to put enough together on their
own (about what was their actual reality) to change thier thinking and put your ideas into practice.
That is, they were being complacent and submissive to the hyjackers (pre 9-11 thinking) learned of the other planes fate, shifted their thinking to
one of action based on the backdrop of the new reality. Meaning; their not going to hold us hostage, they are going to kill us, suddenly I'll take my
chances with the supposed bomb and there are more of us than box cutters.
I'm not sure this made any sense at all? Basically I am saying with pre 9-11 thinking it was totally reasonable to give in, not fight and totally
plausible that a box cutter could be seen as a deterrent to attacking the hijackers. Put it together that they are out to kill you and you're going
to (guaranteed) die if you do nothing, that changes your perspective a bit, I would imagine.
I'm going to step out of the conversation, make another drink for myself and enjoy the start of a long weekend. It's entirely possible that first
one hit me a little harder than I intended (see above ramblings).