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FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics

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posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 07:31 AM

FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics

CLARKSBURG, W. Va. -- The FBI is embarking on a $1 billion effort to build the world's largest computer database of peoples' physical characteristics, a project that would give the government unprecedented abilities to identify individuals in the United States and abroad.

Digital images of faces, fingerprints and palm patterns are already flowing into FBI systems in a climate-controlled, secure basement here.
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 07:31 AM
The worlds biggest biometrics database.
Your body has just become your ID card folks.

I just hope the FBI are better at data security than their oversea Government buddies.

This is way.WAY past the quaint old vision as layed out in "1984."
It sounds as though other governments may pour their biometric data into this FBI system as well.

Always great to know the system is attempting to watch your every move,even if you have doe nothing wrong.

Do you feel safe yet folks?
(visit the link for the full news article)

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 07:41 AM
Nice find SS

This kind of system does away with a national ID card if its implemented in the way they want it to...

Then its only a matter of time before other countries follow the lead, due to its relative ease of implementation as opposed to an ID card...With the card, some kind of consent is required...

With the FBI model, info can be obtained from a near infinite number of sources for one person, without consent...

I don't like it one bit...I will not trade one further bit of my freedom for another persons idea of "my security"

Let me die on a hijacked plane before my individual freedoms are further limited...


EDIT -- for minor typo

[edit on 22-12-2007 by Rilence]

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 08:31 AM
The global control grid is rapidly being assembled...It seems the USGov want to collect the details of everyone one the planet now...A few years back we were told that only terrorists would get this level of scrutiny,now its for us all-as was the plan all along.
Just like I speculated a while back-when they were rolling out the whole biometric plan in Fallujah,It was merely a test bed for the rest of the world.
Now we can all be treated as "the enemy."
Ain't it peachy?

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 08:43 AM
reply to post by Silcone Synapse

Yep SS, peachy to be sure

This kind of system, once established, will be rolled out over pretty much every "democracy" on the planet"

Without a vote in parliament, and with the signatures of a few key bureaucrat's in most countries

That is so sad it aint funny

The only possible way to circumvent such a system is a refusal by much of the population to provide said details, which is so so unlikely...

Or some kind of legal challenge thru the judiciary system...

Which I see as equally unlikely...

It increasingly seems we are going to have to accept such a system, and those of us who really care, try to circumvent said system at every opportunity...

It doesn't look good, sadly...

Thank Goodness we have Xmas to distract us for a bit

Peace SS
And thanks for being an awesome source on info and news over the last year or so

I wish you and yours nothing but a happy and peaceful holiday and and awesome 2008

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 09:10 AM
reply to post by Rilence

I can't help thinking that all this data loss the UK government are putting us through at the moment may in some ways be a scheme to prepare us for the day when privacy and individuality are erased from the dictionary.
We recently had 3.5million UK drivers records,address emails go missing from the a US based company...
What were they doing with so much of our personal details in the first place?
I bet its all safely tucked away on some NSA servers by now,in preparation for the full spectrum global roll out of total surveillance.

"Thank Goodness we have Xmas to distract us for a bit

Peace SS
And thanks for being an awesome source on info and news over the last year or so

I wish you and yours nothing but a happy and peaceful holiday and and awesome 2008

Hey,much appreciated my friend!
I hope you and your family/friends have a top one as well.
Peace and a relaxing holiday to you.

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 01:46 PM

Critics say that such government initiatives should not proceed without proof that the technology really can pick a criminal out of a crowd.

There is no normalcy anymore. The government, police do not protect the average person unless it is an extreme circumstance. It is my opinion that (as stated on other posts) two classes of people will emerge. The ones that can afford to buy freedom and the ones who can not.

With the majority of satellites in space being privately owned, anyone can zoom in and scan your body. If they can scan it they can alter it.

With information being stolen, identity thief rising, and educated, technologically savvy criminals how in the world can the government protect all that data, nevertheless the average person. The innocent has long been a target, while they are blind to the criminal’s right in front of their face. It appears as though ideologies are on trial and those that do not agree are, and will be, put into a mental cage or carted off to one of the prison camps now being constructed.

The Department of Homeland Security has been using iris scans at some airports to verify the identity of travelers who have passed background checks and who want to move through lines quickly.

Is this “Minority Report” at work. If people have passed background checks, background checks have been going on and this has been in development for some time.

Iris scans, is that where they are putting the chip?

posted on Dec, 22 2007 @ 02:30 PM
Good post. I believe this technology goes hand-in-hand with this technology, being readied for use in Iraq...
I just started a thread the other day.

Based on this article...

Mobile Labs to Target Iraqis for

The labs – collapsible, 20-by-20-foot units each with a generator and a satellite link to a biometric data base in West Virginia – will let U.S. forces cross-check data in the field against information collected previously that can be used to identify insurgents. These labs are expected to be deployed across Iraq in early 2008.

(Emphasis, my own)

My point in my thread was "are they prepping it for home use here in the states?" Of course, only a few focussed on that there. Most argued the war the technology was being used in. I'm glad you opened this second part to the story.


posted on Dec, 23 2007 @ 03:15 AM
From¨the link.

"Bigger. Faster. Better. That's the bottom line," said Thomas E. Bush III, assistant director of the FBI's Criminal Justice Information Services Division, which operates the database from its headquarters in the Appalachian foothills.

It's the technology of tomorrow.

This is where all video surviliance will go. And you only have to pass a counter one time to have your picture taken. Then they have your biometrics.

As computer power grows and memory devicies shrink in size as well as price, this will be major in controll of crowds.

You will for sure know, now Big Brother IS watching!

He'll know the way you walk and the way you talk. With survaliance gear being put in place, he'll know it just about anywhere.

Every now and then they'll nail someone, who may or who may not be a terrorist, because of this technology, but all the while they'll know about every move of YOURS ...which of course is of no interest to them, if your not a terrorist.

Just in case... .. better keep an eye on everybody.

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 02:06 PM
Some New Information has come out today concerning this

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 02:08 PM
Reminds me of this "Minority Report" movie.

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 02:12 PM
Watch this, especially at the end of the clip -

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 02:15 PM
It's a scary thought, but as one said hundreds of years ago:

give man freedom and he will enslave himself.

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 03:11 PM
yeah the one it is looking more like that kind of stuff coming to fruition. I just hope they dont get the "sick sticks" after us as well.

Ugh, bastards. I am in agreement with rilence I would rather take my chances with the damn terrorists then the crooks running this country. They are just going to keep taking and taking, and we will be nothing but livestock being led around to make money for them. If they want an eye scan or prints their gonna have to get them off me after I am dead, I wont submit to that while alive.

posted on Feb, 4 2008 @ 04:11 PM
After reading this article and then watching the Minority Report clip, I started wondering how people would behave and react in a world like that in reality, and to my dismay I quickly came to the conclusion that people would be

"Ah well... that's the way it is. We're much safer now"

then I asked myself why... why would they behave like that. Not putting up a fight? Because it's happening gradually. I don't doubt that the powers that be would love to impose all this control on us in one sweeping strike, but they are holding back in order for us to swallow it more or less willingly.

Ponder this setup for a moment:

Step 0: Tear down old playgrounds, install new ones that are completely hazard free for kids, exchange sand with ultra soft pebbles that cusions falls...
(Yes.. it's silly and overexgerated, but when they started installing safe playgrounds I was going "ehm... what?")

Step ½: Introduce 24 hour video surveillance in large cities for the protection of the public. (I guess I could live with this one...)

Step 1: Start sharing criminal info with international lawenforcement
(people go: "yay, go get em!")

Step 2: Introduce fingerprint and / or retina scan when entering a foreign country
(people go: "oh well, I guess in light of 9/11 and all...?)

Step 3: Introduce database that contains not only info on national citizens but citizens from the whole world
(people go: "Oh ok...")

Step 4: Internet undergoes suppreme surveilance. ISP now have the obligation to report any browse made to one of the following: A. Pornographic site; devide browsings into: gay, transexual, animal, anal, hetero (prioritise from left to right), B. Religious sites, C. Political sites, Discussion forums known to have anti-establishment behavior and or supporters. D. News sites, E. Favourite shopping sites... and people will at this stage also go "oh, ok..."

Step 5: Now that we are used to being surveillanced while on our "private" internet, they can move to step 5, which will introduce the all new type of advertising like shown in Minority Report.
Ofcourse there will still be random violence in the streets, so the powers demand that they are allowed full access to the ad system in order to better "catch the bad guys". Ofcourse noone realises that the bad guys in this case could be persons who are in open opposition to the establishment.
Step 5 more or less removes personal freedom completely. They still haven't figured out how to read our minds in a realiable way yet though.
(people go: "Cool... ads minded personally at me... and as holograms too!! Wow!")

Step 6: Welcome to freedom. You are now safe... completely... safe. We help you avoid those nasty thoughts of: not having enough, the hunger for sex, you can travel safely within all sectors of the "state" and your kids will be well looked after while you're on your 9 hour shift, followed by colleagueal exercise after work for 2 hours.
The transport shuttles will have you safely home by 7:30 pm and you can stream today's news via the communication channel between 8:00 and 9:00. Remember, you want what's best for you... so do we [insert scary acknowledging smiley of the future]
(people go: "Ahh, peace and quite..)

Now let's try to do this list again... only this time, let's go right from step 0 to step 6:

"We are going to demolish the old fashioned playgrounds and install new ones which are hazard free with soft pebbles. We are in the process of banning treeclimbing, but we'll get back to you on that.
Tomorrow you'll be collected at home by your local transport shuttle that will take you to the sector you'll be working in henceforth. Your kids will be looked after at the new play camps which are highly specialised in... improving kids.
While at work we'll be installling the brand new advanced communication center to offer you the easiest most reliable information from all the world.

You will probably notice the faint voices and holographic visions around you as you go about your business. Don't be alarmed, as it is merely the new type of consumer friendly advertising system which also servers as an improvement to the 24 videosurveillance you might have noticed during the last couple of days.

At work you'll find an increase in the number of sanitational appliances so you won't have to wait in line during the 10 min. they are usable every 2 hours.

After work you'll find that we have worked hard to offer you the needed exercise to keep a healthy working body. You can now enjoy you co-workers after work also.

We will ofcourse be mentioning any additions to this society which will improve your freemdom and keep you safe [insert scary acknowledging smiley of the future]"

(..and half the people go: "What the f***!!?" after which they are dragged away and prosecuted like disidents)

The outcome is more or less the same, only it takes longer for people to realise that in the first example. And that makes me scared...

[edit on 4/2/08 by flice]

[edit on 4/2/08 by flice]

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