well i recently read here that 23 of the first women to get guardisil where having trouble with multiple miscarriages. could this vaccine really be a form of population control? in my area the doctors seem to be trying to only get the poor teens to take this vacinatioin

[sarcasm] vaccines are good for you; mercury is nutritious! [/sarcasm]

i don't watch tv except for sunday nights for simpsons and family guy, but the last few sundays i have seen a new commercial for a vaccine for this hpv and it encourages all girls to go get it... it has a bunch of girls on there saying something like "now that i got it, i will be one less woman dying of cervical cancer" or something like that... i was like, rofl!

So I was in the doctor's office last week getting a prescription for my athsma medication... The doctor commented "Oh, you're qualified to get a free flu shot! Shall I prepare that for you?"
"You mean one of the lower grade vaccines that don't actually prevent anything, yet make me feel like crap for 3 days? I'll pass thanks.".
"That's very irresponsible of you...".
The doctor was actually quite upset with me for passing up my "free" flu shot. Lectured me for longer than he checked up on my athsma (which he only did for about 5 minutes before writing a prescription for my $120 for 15 days meds).

I finally got pissed off and lectured him right back about how those shots don't work (I've had them in the past and still got sick), give me symptoms just like catching the flu (so what's the friggen point?), and that there's a body of evidence that suggests there may be long term negative health impacts. I also mentioned that it's my choice to pick and choose how I want to handle my health. The over priced athsma meds at least do something for me, these shots do not. Don't you dare stand there and lecture me about being irresponsible when you are shooting people up full of crap that you honestly cannot say is "safe".

He handed me my prescription and asked me not to see him anymore.
As he's just a random clinic doc, I agreed, then suggested that maybe that should go for everybody.

Mr. Doctor made an angry face.


Just a little tale about how these doctors will actually pressure you to submit to these things, even if you don't want them. I'm sure they get a chunk of change for every one they administer, even when they are "free" (which they are not, rather they are simply covered by Healthcare).

Good for you Bitraiser, and it sounds like HPV has never been proven causative of Cervical Cancer same as HIV has never been proven causative of AIDS. Yet if you are treated positive for HIV they obliterate your immune system with AZT. Now there's a whole new can of worms

You do realise some of these companies were gassing Jews in WW2 right... IG Farben became Hoerchst among others.

How much do those HPV shots cost anyway? I heard it was about 300 dollars per shot, and there are three of them over the course of so many months.

That commercial is up there with my all time favorites. Another favorite is the one with all the kids saying to their parents in a monologue that they should tell them to wait for sex until their married so they can be more successful in life. My other favorite is with all the kids, again, saying to their parents what they should do in case of a terrorist attack.

Just from said commercials, how can one person really believe anything in any brain-washing form of advertisement again?

hmmm...

I'm still slightly skeptical... does anyone have a non-bbc source? My girlfriend was planning on getting it, I just told her to hold off so we could research it more. And if this is really that dangerous...

I want to say I'm shocked if this is true... but... I can't say I am. This kinda **** gets pulled on us all the time, if its not one thing it was another. Remember the Birth Control Patch?

(As for the flu shot... I get one yearly, and when I do miss one, I do tend to get the flu. my only side effect is slight dizziness.)

My heart goes out to all the young women who have been and will be victimized by the sheer greed of drug companies like this one. After being diagnosed with a 3 pound ovarian tumor and surgery to remove both it and my left ovary I asked my doctor about the virus and vaccine after having seen a TV commercial for it. He didn't seem to put much stock in it then and thank God he had the sense to not suggest it for me!

I just ran some quick numbers. According to Census.gov, there are roughly 151,886,332 women in America. Assuming *all* of them received the vaccine at a cost of $300 per woman (or per woman's insurance company), Merck would make something in the neighborhood of $45,565,899,600.

/tn.

(And definately sweet for the shareholders, too!)

oh dear , another total missrepresentation of official quites and dishonest leaps to spurious conclusions

this is the actual quote from the FDA :

, most infections are short-lived and not associated with cervical cancer."

but somehow they mutate it into :

HPV infections do not cause cervical cancer!

the key word from the FDA is MOST which inferes that some are

further , the FDA states :

"Most women who become infected with HPV are able to eradicate the virus and suffer no apparent long-term consequences to their health."

again MOST is the key word

are these people writting these scaremongering anti vaccine stories actually so ignorant that they cannot extract basic context from a sentence ? or is it just blatant dishonesty ???