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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 03:21 PM by Randomdam
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good point, it may be they have advanced tech to protect themselves or deal with the situation, but surely anything they do will be noticable in part
to someone here.
Now that this event is 'news' at least alot more eyes and ears will be tuned in, I just hope it doesn't become a much aniticipated 'non event'.
At least we don't have to wait five years to see if anything is going to happen
So im staying tuned into this one and putting a note in my diary.
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 03:57 PM by nine-eyed-eel
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Perhaps those same sinister entities who silenced our valiant Mars fly-over probes in order to hide Vandenberg 2 in Tharsis will subtly deflect the
incoming asteroid with the slightest glance of their puissant beam, shortly before or after they drip ichor... those unclean godless dustbunnies...
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 04:19 PM by Eighty59
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Along the lines of a supposed underground civilzation: what if the meteor doesn't really exist? You and I can't see it, so how do we know it's out
there? Perhaps this could be some excuse for scientists to say, "Hey Mars got hit, caused a huge crater, and in it, we found an advanced
civilization. Let's get there and see what we can find!". Maybe just a way to "expose" the real Mars?
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 04:22 PM by C.H.U.D.
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Well, another possibility is that they could be living deep under ground, where they would be sheltered from all but the worst direct hits. If that
were so, then they might well just let nature take it's course, and we would never see anything that might give them away. We'll just have to wait
and see.
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 04:29 PM by Extralien
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Or...
The asteroid is a deliberate attack on Mars, by the people that live there, to free the trapped water under the surface.
The water will then cover low lying areas and enable all the seeds in the soil to grow and eventually begin to create a thin but breathable atmosphere
for everyone.
What's the odds of trapped water being released after impact anyway? Be it a natural or orchestrated hit.
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 05:06 PM by IrishMick
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The impact of this 1km to 2km sized rock hitting Mars is going to crater the size of that in Arizona according to NASA specialist. I won't effect
Earth or Mars gravity. Stop smoking weed it makes you paranoid.
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 05:34 PM by zorgon
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Okay so according to this simulation this thing looks like it just brushed the Earth on Nov 5 2007
And this didn't make the news because????
Von Braun said:
America will create four enemies...
The Russians... been there done that
Terrorists... the daily news
ASTEROIDS.... umm yeah okay...
Alien Invasion...
All these are designed to make you shell out big bucks for space weapons... so if this thing hits Mars... and we didn't see it coming until a short
while ago... considering its near miss on Earth... You can expect to fork over more tax dollars to buy that Anti Asteroid Space Cannon and the fleet
of spotter ships...
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 07:54 PM by rhw007
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Let's hope if it's a hit...it misses Cydonia ? !
And impact would certainly call the PUBLIC and MEANSTREAM EMDIA attention to the planet again.
SPACE Protection would likely FLY to the top of "promises" the pandering, prattling politicions propoganda.
Cracking open the Vaults of Area 51 would be a Nice New year's GIFT to Humanity !!!
Hijack That Antigravity Sleigh SANTA
Happy Holidays
Bob...
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 08:10 PM by zorgon
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Seen on BA...
 Michael Lonerganon 20 Dec 2007 at 11:11 pm
“Most likely it will miss, but it would be totally cool if it hits.” ROFL. I’m going to tell Hoagie that you said that! It would be too cool if
it smashed into the face at Cydonia, and demolished it and the pyramid hill. No wait. Then he would claim it was a NASA conspiracy to re-direct the
Asteroid to cover up the truth of what’s on mars. Simply Astounding. 
Seems like the boys at BA wish for it to hit... so 'scientists' can study the stuff thrown into the air...
Carl Sagan tried to do that with nuking the moon and NASA is deliberately crashing spaceships into celestial bodies...
And they wonder why I 'dislike' main stream 'scientists'
www.badastronomy.com...
Maybe that be why they named the site BAD Astronomy?
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 08:36 PM by zooplancton
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this just in...
Mars' finds suitable solution:
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reply posted on 21-12-2007 @ 10:15 PM by mel1962
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Well, I have to jump back into this one! I have been checking for the latest and greatest and found this article!
A little too scary for me!
Asteroid Misses Earth . . .
So in other words, they just found this thing and luckly it misses the earth????
That will make me sleep better in the morning!
We need to get updates on this thing . . . and who is looking out for the earth, it sounds like we will get a month's notice, how warm and fuzzy does
that make you feel?
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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 12:15 AM by IAttackPeople
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Originally posted by zorgon
Okay so according to this simulation this thing looks like it just brushed the Earth on Nov 5 2007 
Actually, this asteroid was closer to Earth on Nov. 2, according to the JPL orbital data, at .0479 AU. That's roughly 4.5 million miles. Lots get
lots closer.
 And this didn't make the news because???? 
It wasn't discovered until Nov. 20.
 You can expect to fork over more tax dollars to buy that Anti Asteroid Space Cannon and the fleet of spotter ships... 
I think a little extra $$$ for Earth-bound spotters isn't a bad idea, myself.
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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 01:30 AM by JadePhoenix
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Nice find mel1962, I’ll have to fully read this thread and links tomorrow when I have had some much needed sleep. It would be very interesting to
see an actual impact accrue if this asteroid does hit mars.
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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 03:08 AM by zorgon
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Yup "Trust NASA" I always say  They will keep you informed...
 Astronomers in NASA’s Near Earth Object (NEO) monitoring program are tracking the trajectory of an asteroid estimated to be 50 meter (160 feet)
wide that is expected to cross Mars' orbital path early next year. Observations provided by the astronomers and analyzed by NASA's NEO Office at the
Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., indicate the object is likely to pass within 50,000 kilometers (30,000 miles) of Mars at 5:55 a.m. EST
(10:55 UT) on Jan. 30, 2008. There is also a 1 in 75 probability that the asteroid will slam into the planet at that time.
So it seems the rock shrank from 100 meters to 50 meters...
 "Right now asteroid 2007 WD5 is about half-way between the Earth and Mars and closing the distance at a speed of about 27,900 miles per hour,"
said Don Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Office at JPL. "Over the next five weeks, we hope to gather more information from observatories so
we can further refine the asteroid's trajectory."
Speed of about 27,900 miles per hour
 Such a collision could release about three megatons of energy. Scientists believe an event of comparable magnitude occurred here on Earth in 1908
in Tunguska, Siberia, but no crater was created.
Only 3 megatons? Well no sweat then won't even leave a dent
But maybe the Martians have a deflector and will bounce it back at us... then sit there saying "Man won't it be cool to watch it slam into that blue
marble"
Oh and I wouldn't worry about the Dust on the Rovers...
The secret astronaut corp keeps them clean and repaired...
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Spirit's panoramic camera took the picture on the left on the rover's 416th martian day, or sol, (March 5, 2005) and took the picture on the right
on sol 426 (March 15, 2005).
Now NASA will tell you that "Magic Dust Devils" keep both Rovers clean... after all they were only supposed to last a few months ... but they act
like the Enegizer Bunny...
Here is one from Sol 1244... spotless you can see the lettering
image source: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1244/2P236798061ESFAUATP2124L5M1-BR.JPG
I got better ones but not for here
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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 08:37 AM by SeekerofTruth102
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Mankind began exploring Mars, in search of previous life. SomeONE, somewhere, aint happy and decided to toss a rock to either cover up evidence of
life or wipe out the rovers.
Edit: Calculating the time rovers landed till next month's impact in speed of light, with a recreation of the rock's trajectory path, may shed light
on possible locations on whereabouts of intelligent life.
That is, if the impact was an intentional occurence and not a coincidence that it should be near where the rovers are.
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reply posted on 22-12-2007 @ 12:02 PM by JadePhoenix
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Looking at the two pictures of the mars rover’s one with a covering of dust and the other one with no dust could it have been a strong wind that
could have blown the dust off of the rover? I just do not understand why they would want to keep it from the public that we are capable of going to
and live on mars…
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reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 10:41 PM by Siren
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This is really interesting. Did anyone see this tonight?
 Tonight, just after sunset, the full Moon and Mars will rise in the east less than 2o apart.
Considering all of the recent news about this, the current position of Mars and all that space junk floating around, to me, this information is not a
comforting feeling.
 Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (PHAs) are space rocks larger than approximately 100m that can come closer to Earth than 0.05 AU. None of the
known PHAs is on a collision course with our planet, although astronomers are finding new ones all the time.
On December 23, 2007 there were 913 potentially hazardous asteroids.
www.spaceweather.com...
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reply posted on 23-12-2007 @ 11:15 PM by NGC2736
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There were 913 that we know about. Or that we are told about.
The idea of kinetic weapons, launched from the moon, or elsewhere, is not one that is beyond the dreams of the military. They would be relatively
cheap, extremely effective, and almost impossible to defend against because of their speed, if done "properly".
This impact on Mars could well give scientist working on such things really good information about such things. I'm sure there are several generals
and admirals asking Santa for this to be their late Christmas present.
Edit for spelling
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 12:20 AM by zorgon
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Ah I see... since my own website is not an 'accredited' news service I can't show images from there without using the external link button
"They allow hotlinking on message boards, so you can use the [ATS] tag as you are allowed to use the stored image in this way." SimonGray
Post ID 2162126
So using the [ATS] will work huh... lemme see...
Yup it does...
Now what your looking at here is a 'possible' control device on the Asteroid Eros... taken by ESA...
Maybe this 'asteroid' strike on Mars is merely a test of a new 'Toy" ... What really gets me is that they say a 1-75 chance of hitting... yet
already know where it will hit?
Sounds like that politician I heard the other day... "I come before you to stand behind you to tell you something I know nothing about..."
Well its not like they haven't been working on it...
Rand Corporation
Natural Meteoroids As Weapons
 Diverting the course of an asteroid requires only a small Δv, if the deflection is done far enough in advance of earth impact. The
displacement
is proportional to both the lead time and Δv.1 Done well in advance, diverting an asteroid that would otherwise come no
closer than midway between earth and moon requires imparting a Δv
of at least several tens of meters per second to the asteroid. Deflecting
an asteroid within days of its closest approach to earth would require
a very large Δv, on the scale of kilometers per second. It is only
possible to deflect an intermediate-size asteroid well in advance.
www.rand.org...
Now of course no one in our government would ever conceive (oops ...errrr use) such a plan... would they?
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reply posted on 24-12-2007 @ 12:29 AM by NGC2736
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While all this sounds like science fiction, a lot of science fiction has become fact.
That is an interesting link, zorgon. After reading it, I came away with the idea that the only real drawback they felt was one of cost and a good
cover story. I wonder if anything could have changed?
And even if this one now on it's way towards Mars is totally natural, I wonder if it will give these type of people the idea to look at it with a
fresh approach?
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